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Klatu Verata Necktie · 10-05-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJTx0

Background info:
3.0 ish.. high school player on JV.
I'm unfortunately... pretty scrawny (5'6" 110 lbs, and no, I'm not anorexic)

Thanks you guys

!

You're at that age where you grow 3 inches per year, so you won't be scrawny for long! By the way, don't discount the Pro version off hand. It is also a good stick.

Klatu Verata Necktie · 10-05-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie

Just a quick update:

Hit with two guys from the boards today (Klatu Verata Necktie & jmverdugo) with my trisys 260 MP (strung with ashaway kevlar crossifre II at 70 lbs). I strung it yesterday as I wanted to go out and hit today with a fresh string job. I was hitting some monster FH's, and the serves were unbelievable. I hit a few serves that were easily topping 110. Klatu, who was sitting on the side while jmverdugo and I played a couple of games, mentioned he could hear the whizzing of the ball during my serves as it approached the net.

The racquet played unbelievable strung at a high tension.

The racquet was making very musical sounds, for sure. Your first serve percentage was up from last time, so I had more opportunities to see the green blur that was your serve whirl past me!

My impression of the Trisys 260 was positive. The feel was solid and stiff, not unlike the Microgel Radical Pro that I have in my bag. My guess is that it would feel even more similar to the Microgel if it were strung at a less intense tension.

Ross K · 10-05-2007, 11:14 PM

Hi Rad fans,

As I've just bought this and am very keen to get my hands on it (it's been held up in the mail.) And having had only a little success getting info in different threads previously, I'm wondering if people here might be able to tell me a bit about this frame. It's an older, Radical XL Tour 630 MP Tour... (I believe it's the 1998 model with the twin tube technology.)

So what should I expect then? How does it play? How does it compare to the standard sized Rad Tour and other similar frames? And how drastically do you think the fact it's XL will affect things?

Cheers!

Doc Hollidae · 10-09-2007, 03:39 PM

Hey Guys,

It's been a while. I've been on the courts improving my game so I haven't been spending much time around the computer. How's everyone's radicals doing? Has anyone switched to the Microgels from previous Radical models? I still haven't gotten a chance to try any of them, but have no real desire to change sticks.

I recently made some changes to my Radicals. After playing at 64 lbs for so long, I started experimenting and settled with 60 mains and 62 crosses. The results were very surprising for me as I had never strung below 63 lbs before, but there was no loss in control and my the depth of my shots increased significantly. I tried playing with full poly, but I've come to accept I enjoy the feel or lack of in kevlar too much.

I've also moved away from my Gamma Gel Grips I'd been using. They were thicker than the average grip and really rounded out the grip, making it closer to a Wilson shape than the normal head. However after making some grip changes to my strokes, I found that I liked the defined bevels much more. Also I originally had full sized heat shrink sleeves, but downgraded to half sized sleeves. The smaller grip has helped with topspin and allow for more wrist action on shots. So I'm sitting somewhere between a 1/4 and 3/8 grip.

Ross - Let me know how that TT XL plays.

Frekcles - How's that collection coming along? I might be in the market for a TT Zebra finally, so lemme know if you have any leads.

Also for any I haven't added to the members list. If someone can make a post with a bulk of the names it would be appreciated or just make another post requesting to be added.

-Doc

frekcles · 10-09-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

Frekcles - How's that collection coming along? I might be in the market for a TT Zebra finally, so lemme know if you have any leads.

-Doc

What's up Doc? Glad to have you back. The collection is still intact. I have added a Microgel Radical Pro and a Trisys 260 OS (the original one). Lately I've been playing with the LM Radical. For some reason I like hitting with this one as well as the older Radicals.

I'll let you know if I come upon any TT Radicals (MP or OS?).

Take care.

Ross K · 10-09-2007, 09:28 PM

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Doc Hollidae;1800595)...Ross - Let me know how that TT XL plays...-Doc

As soon as I've hit with it, I shall (it's still in transit right now.) Obviously though, I'm really looking forward to doing so and comparing the frame with my main present rod - the one that actually got me looking into all these older Heads - the i. Prestige. And more specifically, I'll be interested to compare power levels, because although the i. prestige is altogether a great racquet as far as I'm concerned, I admit to experiencing some issues with depth and hitting a little short (although I've yet to change strings since I bought the i.p. and have racked up only limited hitting time so far.) Anyway... can't wait to finally try this highly esteemed and - I have to say - fantastic looking rod!

bertrevert · 10-10-2007, 09:25 PM

Okay have kept my trusty LM Rad (Czech one, sold a China one) in my bag and have now just added a new Microgel Radical MP.

First hit was 1 hour yesterday. Came from TW with free Wilson Stamina @ 58lbs. Comparison is my LM Rad with Lux Timo @ 52lbs and lead added.

Feedback: MG Rad MP

It's light, real light, but it swings heavier than its static weight. This makes it manouverable and whippy and not tiring at all. Serves were immediately dialled in and was able to put it in corners of the box. Couldn't get the slice serve going. It has more pop than the LM.

While let's say the nCode "feel" is dampened - this microgel feel is too but it's firm and concentrated and very comfortable. I thought the nCode was "rubbery" and too muted, but the microgel is not.

Definitely I will be adding some lead to the MG Rad. It needs about 6 grams at 12 I think, maybe more.

Background: I thought the iRad was whippy and wiry and a little harsh. Great for directional court play still it was great on touch and slice.

The TiRad was a little light I thought. It's a while ago now but I enjoyed it for serving (before getting stuck into a MW200g for years!).

I always thought the FXP was the oddball in the lineage, although according to this forum it was great. I just cannot understand taht conclusion. Okay the LM wasn't a raging success but the Tour was pretty good. FXP was just plain weird I thought.

hyogen · 10-11-2007, 11:04 PM

OK........so I have played with the Ti.Radical (back then I wasn't as good)...it was an OS

and then since I loved Agassi so much I decided to try the i.Radical because it was on sale.

I really liked the soft feel of it....the first time I had really had a soft frame.

I had the OS just like Agassi had. then recently I decided that I wanted to change up racquets (instead of improve my skills).

I felt I wanted an even more flexible racquet...a longer one (for serves) and one that had a smaller head so I could hit more accurately.

Well....after wasting.........money on like 3 TT warriors (2 used, 1 new), 2 FXP Prestige Teams (1 used, one new), and 1 i.Prestige XL Mid (new on ****)....and demoing LITERALLY ABOUT 20 racquets in the past month...I have decided to go back to the i.Radical.

I sold mine a couple months ago for $70? (OS). It was probably in 8-8.5/10 shape. Sold it locally so I got a lot. I'm about to buy 2 more used ones (7/10) for $50 shipped!!!!!

I'm excited. I have definitely improved my strokes--especially my backhand...and have great expectations for the radical again.

quick question (i posted a thread about this tonight elsewhere), but why did Agassi use an OS frame? for more power? was it always like this or did he change when he switched to the i.Radical or whatever.

Thanks

hyogen · 10-11-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrestigeClassic

The first Radical Tour Twin Tube 630 flexed more along the lines of a Pro Staff, that is to say it felt like it had a stiffer throat. But it was a bit low-powered; as much as the frame enabled my forehand, my backhand was not so great. But for being a Head 630, it's decent at the net, slice serves down the middle, etc. I would string it on the loose side.

YO Prestige Classic--I read your signature.

How did you get scammed? Just so we can avoid things like this. Didn't you pay with Paypal? Can't you get your money back?

Thanks,

Ross K · 10-12-2007, 01:21 PM

Although only used twice thus far in coaching capacity with young children, here are my early if not fully formed impressions...

groundstrokes: amaaazing... crushing... incredible... best frame I've ever tried for fh and bh...

serve: not as immobile as I feared, but then again, not exactly easy though.... good power... but I need more proper time on it...

net play: this is where I found I couldn't quite cope with the high sw...

general: as suspected, there are manouverabillity and mobility issues. However, that high sw is also responsible for a frame with a wonderful heft, pop or power, stabillity, plow and feel. Basically, it's like nothing `i've tried before. Funnilly enough, it's almost the opposite to my i. Prestige. At this early stage though, I'll just say I think I can live with my game 'regressing' back to the baseliner game (the mobility and sensitivity of the i. Prestige had threatened to 'develop' or at least alter my game... but after today, my instinct is: "Yes, actually I do like being able to just pulverise the crap out of the ball!"

I have to say, I'm already wondering if I haven't, more by accident than design, stumbled on to something here with this 369 sw... ?

BTW, any of you have experience with high sw frames, I'd love to hear your views on the topic...

R.

Ross K · 10-12-2007, 01:24 PM

Sorry! I forgot to say above ^ is for Rad Tour TT XL (630)

Doc Hollidae · 10-12-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross K

Although only used twice thus far in coaching capacity with young children, here are my early if not fully formed impressions...

groundstrokes: amaaazing... crushing... incredible... best frame I've ever tried for fh and bh...

serve: not as immobile as I feared, but then again, not exactly easy though.... good power... but I need more proper time on it...

net play: this is where I found I couldn't quite cope with the high sw...

general: as suspected, there are manouverabillity and mobility issues. However, that high sw is also responsible for a frame with a wonderful heft, pop or power, stabillity, plow and feel. Basically, it's like nothing `i've tried before. Funnilly enough, it's almost the opposite to my i. Prestige. At this early stage though, I'll just say I think I can live with my game 'regressing' back to the baseliner game (the mobility and sensitivity of the i. Prestige had threatened to 'develop' or at least alter my game... but after today, my instinct is: "Yes, actually I do like being able to just pulverise the crap out of the ball!"

I have to say, I'm already wondering if I haven't, more by accident than design, stumbled on to something here with this 369 sw... ?

BTW, any of you have experience with high sw frames, I'd love to hear your views on the topic...

R.

Ross glad you liked the racket. I pretty much agree with your review. The TT Radical was all the racket a person could ask for, but the net play was it's one major down side. The heft simply made it difficult in quick exchanges, particularly in doubles. Other than that it was great. The high swing weight can be cumbersome pending on your fitness, but once you get used to it, you'll fall in love with the stability. Even off centered hits will be solid.

The one thing I remember liking most about the TT Radical was the flex of the racket. I always felt like it was very forgiving when I was late on a ball and it allowed me to pull, direct, or muscle a ball that would normally go out, ball back into the court.

bertrevert · 10-12-2007, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyogen

OK........so I have played with the Ti.Radical (back then I wasn't as good)...it was an OS

and then since I loved Agassi so much I decided to try the i.Radical because it was on sale.

I really liked the soft feel of it....the first time I had really had a soft frame.

I had the OS just like Agassi had. then recently I decided that I wanted to change up racquets (instead of improve my skills).

I felt I wanted an even more flexible racquet...a longer one (for serves) and one that had a smaller head so I could hit more accurately.

Well....after wasting.........money on like 3 TT warriors (2 used, 1 new), 2 FXP Prestige Teams (1 used, one new), and 1 i.Prestige XL Mid (new on ****)....and demoing LITERALLY ABOUT 20 racquets in the past month...I have decided to go back to the i.Radical.

I sold mine a couple months ago for $70? (OS). It was probably in 8-8.5/10 shape. Sold it locally so I got a lot. I'm about to buy 2 more used ones (7/10) for $50 shipped!!!!!

I'm excited. I have definitely improved my strokes--especially my backhand...and have great expectations for the radical again.

quick question (i posted a thread about this tonight elsewhere), but why did Agassi use an OS frame? for more power? was it always like this or did he change when he switched to the i.Radical or whatever.

Thanks

Agassi was always an OS player from the baseline.

Yes I've experienced that same racquet detour for basically no gain. For me it was one year ago. You have to cut it short pretty quickly when you realise and go back to basics.

Going back to a racquet you know or an update is a sound manouver.

I like that "J011yroger Guide to Racquet Selection"
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=160692

In it is implied that you have to pretty much pick up the racquet and like it, a lot, and like everything about it, and pretty much be able to hit all your shots with it immediately, because what you'll be working on beyond is consistency and depth and you'll get neither with a racquet that isn't like a third arm to you.

Souns like flec is important to you. The new Head microgel sticks have gone flexier... which is surprising. They are comfortable given that flex, and yet very solid feeling.

Ross K · 10-12-2007, 10:30 PM

Just wondered if anyone could tell me how the 1st ever rad - the 'bumblebee', plays in general, plus how it compares to the later ('ninety-eight) Rad Tour TT. I'd also like to specifically ask how it performs in terms of power - ie, is it one of those wonderful feeling but essentially low powered frames that can have the less advanced among us struggling for depth sometimes?

keithchircop · 10-12-2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross K

I have to say, I'm already wondering if I haven't, more by accident than design, stumbled on to something here with this 369 sw... ?

Just because a racquet plays well doesn't mean it is SW2. Not that a racquet with SW2 has to play well by definition anyway.

Ross K · 10-12-2007, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

LOL. Remember who started this thread. I've hit with every radical made and nothing feels better than the old 1995/1998 Twin Tube Radical. These Limited Editions and the old Trisys 260 are close, but they don't have that same feel or softness. The one thing I always liked about the Twin Tube was it's flex and it really allowed you to whip through the ball with excellent control.

Is the underlined referring to the bumblebee?

keithchircop · 10-12-2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Hollidae

The one thing I remember liking most about the TT Radical was the flex of the racket. I always felt like it was very forgiving when I was late on a ball and it allowed me to pull, direct, or muscle a ball that would normally go out, ball back into the court.

What's its flex rating?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross K

Is the underlined referring to the bumblebee?

Yes

hyogen · 10-12-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bertrevert

Agassi was always an OS player from the baseline.

Yes I've experienced that same racquet detour for basically no gain. For me it was one year ago. You have to cut it short pretty quickly when you realise and go back to basics.

Going back to a racquet you know or an update is a sound manouver.

I like that "J011yroger Guide to Racquet Selection"
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=160692

In it is implied that you have to pretty much pick up the racquet and like it, a lot, and like everything about it, and pretty much be able to hit all your shots with it immediately, because what you'll be working on beyond is consistency and depth and you'll get neither with a racquet that isn't like a third arm to you.

Souns like flec is important to you. The new Head microgel sticks have gone flexier... which is surprising. They are comfortable given that flex, and yet very solid feeling.

are you sure it's more flexible? i felt my i.radical was pretty dang flexible...

how can it feel more solid while being more flexible? I have noticed that the MG are more solid...but not sure about the flexible part

Doc Hollidae · 10-13-2007, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithchircop

What's its flex rating?

I don't know the flex rating off hand, but it felt more flexible than the Radical LE's I have. I experience the same flex feeling with the Prestige Classic/Tour (not sure the which demo I had exactly). However the Radical played a little stiffer and with more power.

bertrevert · 10-13-2007, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyogen

are you sure it's more flexible? i felt my i.radical was pretty dang flexible...

how can it feel more solid while being more flexible? I have noticed that the MG are more solid...but not sure about the flexible part

Well I meant the MG is just flexier (Stiffness: 57) than the prev FXP model (Stiffness: 63) and my LM Rad (Stiffness: 64) - so maybe this MG is getting pretty close to your i.Rad?

Unsure if this old review is accurate giving it a "flex rating" of 64?
http://menstennis.com/Reviews/IRAD/IRADReview.html

It's a great feeling frame, very fast and manouverable. Am just trying out the first 5 grams of lead at 12...

10-05-2007, 11:14 PM	#343
Ross K Legend Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,758	xl rad tour mp Hi Rad fans, As I've just bought this and am very keen to get my hands on it (it's been held up in the mail.) And having had only a little success getting info in different threads previously, I'm wondering if people here might be able to tell me a bit about this frame. It's an older, Radical XL Tour 630 MP Tour... (I believe it's the 1998 model with the twin tube technology.) So what should I expect then? How does it play? How does it compare to the standard sized Rad Tour and other similar frames? And how drastically do you think the fact it's XL will affect things? Cheers!

10-09-2007, 03:39 PM	#344
Doc Hollidae Hall Of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,658	Hey Guys, It's been a while. I've been on the courts improving my game so I haven't been spending much time around the computer. How's everyone's radicals doing? Has anyone switched to the Microgels from previous Radical models? I still haven't gotten a chance to try any of them, but have no real desire to change sticks. I recently made some changes to my Radicals. After playing at 64 lbs for so long, I started experimenting and settled with 60 mains and 62 crosses. The results were very surprising for me as I had never strung below 63 lbs before, but there was no loss in control and my the depth of my shots increased significantly. I tried playing with full poly, but I've come to accept I enjoy the feel or lack of in kevlar too much. I've also moved away from my Gamma Gel Grips I'd been using. They were thicker than the average grip and really rounded out the grip, making it closer to a Wilson shape than the normal head. However after making some grip changes to my strokes, I found that I liked the defined bevels much more. Also I originally had full sized heat shrink sleeves, but downgraded to half sized sleeves. The smaller grip has helped with topspin and allow for more wrist action on shots. So I'm sitting somewhere between a 1/4 and 3/8 grip. Ross - Let me know how that TT XL plays. Frekcles - How's that collection coming along? I might be in the market for a TT Zebra finally, so lemme know if you have any leads. Also for any I haven't added to the members list. If someone can make a post with a bulk of the names it would be appreciated or just make another post requesting to be added. -Doc __________________ Pure Drive Roddick 2012 - Big Hitter Blue 17g - 54 mains/52 crosses

10-11-2007, 11:04 PM	#348
hyogen Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 2,952	OK........so I have played with the Ti.Radical (back then I wasn't as good)...it was an OS and then since I loved Agassi so much I decided to try the i.Radical because it was on sale. I really liked the soft feel of it....the first time I had really had a soft frame. I had the OS just like Agassi had. then recently I decided that I wanted to change up racquets (instead of improve my skills). I felt I wanted an even more flexible racquet...a longer one (for serves) and one that had a smaller head so I could hit more accurately. Well....after wasting.........money on like 3 TT warriors (2 used, 1 new), 2 FXP Prestige Teams (1 used, one new), and 1 i.Prestige XL Mid (new on ****)....and demoing LITERALLY ABOUT 20 racquets in the past month...I have decided to go back to the i.Radical. I sold mine a couple months ago for $70? (OS). It was probably in 8-8.5/10 shape. Sold it locally so I got a lot. I'm about to buy 2 more used ones (7/10) for $50 shipped!!!!! I'm excited. I have definitely improved my strokes--especially my backhand...and have great expectations for the radical again. quick question (i posted a thread about this tonight elsewhere), but why did Agassi use an OS frame? for more power? was it always like this or did he change when he switched to the i.Radical or whatever. Thanks __________________ #1 Agassi Fan; K6.1 95 team, TwinTube Radical MP Videos: www.youtube.com/hyogen82

10-12-2007, 10:30 PM	#354
Ross K Legend Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,758	tell me about the famous 'bumblebee'... Just wondered if anyone could tell me how the 1st ever rad - the 'bumblebee', plays in general, plus how it compares to the later ('ninety-eight) Rad Tour TT. I'd also like to specifically ask how it performs in terms of power - ie, is it one of those wonderful feeling but essentially low powered frames that can have the less advanced among us struggling for depth sometimes?

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