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Old 07-03-2007, 04:24 AM   #1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwtacVwqlgg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i87ENoVyUA0


any comments to help are welcome. thanks,tom
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:53 AM   #2
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congrats, quite a good swing and improvement over one year, as i assume that the vids are taken about one year apart.
keep her going, she's strinking really nice. i assume you were ballfeeding from the basket, and therefore it would be interesting to see how she moves in a rally, but the stroke mechanics are sound.
the only thing i'd like to point out is that you should not get her messed up with onehander and twohander. keep her with one for the time being. i guess (at least it looks like) you have her already play a 27" racquet and that gives her some trouble with the onehander because she hits late quite a few times. let her tiny wrists stabilize a little more until you go (if you chose to) for a onehander.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:48 AM   #3
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On her forehand, she should stick her left hand on the racket longer during the backswing, and she should make sure to keep her left arm extended out, perhaps pointed at the ball, longer to maintain greater balance, only bringing her arm in around the moment of contact with the ball.

Watch any pro forehand to see what I mean about the left arm. Right now her left arm is kept tucked in almost the whole motion.

I'm kind of not crazy about how closed her racket face is on the backhand, but a lot of modern players do hit it that way so it's kind of subjective. If she went to Lansdorp, though, I'm sure he would open up the face a bit and have her drive through the ball more.

Otherwise, she's on her way to becoming a fantastic player. It seems as if when she gets older and stronger, she can make the move to a great one hander a la Henin.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:03 AM   #4
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congrats, quite a good swing and improvement over one year, as i assume that the vids are taken about one year apart.
keep her going, she's strinking really nice. i assume you were ballfeeding from the basket, and therefore it would be interesting to see how she moves in a rally, but the stroke mechanics are sound.
the only thing i'd like to point out is that you should not get her messed up with onehander and twohander. keep her with one for the time being. i guess (at least it looks like) you have her already play a 27" racquet and that gives her some trouble with the onehander because she hits late quite a few times. let her tiny wrists stabilize a little more until you go (if you chose to) for a onehander.
sorry, those are my two daughters, one is 6 and one is 7. I will try to take some video of their playing. 6 is using PDR+ and 7 is using PC+. I think you are right about the back hand hitting late problem.
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On her forehand, she should stick her left hand on the racket longer during the backswing, and she should make sure to keep her left arm extended out, perhaps pointed at the ball, longer to maintain greater balance, only bringing her arm in around the moment of contact with the ball.

Watch any pro forehand to see what I mean about the left arm. Right now her left arm is kept tucked in almost the whole motion.

I'm kind of not crazy about how closed her racket face is on the backhand, but a lot of modern players do hit it that way so it's kind of subjective. If she went to Lansdorp, though, I'm sure he would open up the face a bit and have her drive through the ball more.

Otherwise, she's on her way to becoming a fantastic player. It seems as if when she gets older and stronger, she can make the move to a great one hander a la Henin.
thank you for the forehand tip.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:19 AM   #6
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ninaz,
sorry for my confusion which started by the title "daughter .."
i like the way both swing and they basically have a good timing (even if sometimes late - who doesn't).
my son is getting 8 in a couple of days, so i have "somewhat" of a comparison.
i would highly recommend you look out for some junior racquets - 26". you are giving them quite a hard time with those racquets. it has nothing to do with weight, the babs would be o.k. in the 300g range, it has to do with leverage and the stress on the joints. my son (128cm currently) is still playing a 25" which will soon be replaced by a 26". on services he'd constantly hit the ground with a full size racquet. there are really some good racquets out there also in the babolat range (junior roddick i guess it's called) and they are not expensive. i talk about graphite racquets, not those metal ones!
don't worry about the swing, it will stay there, my son swings o.k. with the 25". it would also teach them racquet acceleration better since it's easier to move around due to better maneuverability.
besides this, keep on working, you have "material" to work on.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:06 PM   #7
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Hope to see them in the tour in a few years.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:21 AM   #8
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There are a couple of things I would suggest:

1. Games based approach to drills:

I didn't hear your girls giggling. Your daughters may not last in the sport if they don't have a passion for it, or they lose sight of the fun.

2. Footwork drills:

The better the footwork they have at a younger age, the more they're able to compete. Again, make it fun for them.

3. Switch to foam balls, like the Dunlop Speed Ball, and have your daughters hit with each other.

This will allow them to develop tracking capabilities, spin, etc.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:33 AM   #9
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There are a couple of things I would suggest:

1. Games based approach to drills

2. Footwork drills:

3. Switch to foam balls, like the Dunlop Speed Ball, and have your daughters hit with each other.

This will allow them to develop tracking capabilities, spin, etc.
where can i get those drills on the net? thank you very much for the tips.
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ninaz,
there are coaching newsletters available via web, both on the itf-site and the usta. check them out, they are downloadable pdf-files, you will find some valuable information there.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:39 PM   #11
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where can i get those drills on the net? thank you very much for the tips.
Besides the USTA and ITF sites, there are a number of good DVDs that you can purchase.

They used to carry some good DVDs for training kids at Tennis Warehouse, but I reviewed the page and couldn't find it:

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/catthumbs.html?CREF=334

Since I couldn't find the videos I wanted to recommend, I will refer you to On Court / Off Court, which sells to tennis instructors:

http://www.oncourtoffcourt.com/c-13-...-for-kids.aspx

They even sell thefoam ball:

http://www.oncourtoffcourt.com/pc-41...oam-balls.aspx

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Old 07-04-2007, 08:46 PM   #12
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Thank you for all the helps. do you think the Airzone system is good for my daughter right now?
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:48 PM   #13
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dude this is in the wrong section, should be in tennis instruction section not adult league, btw the feeds are really high
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:23 AM   #14
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sorry about wrong section. how can i move it? thanks,tom
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Thank you for all the helps. do you think the Airzone system is good for my daughter right now?
Yes. Learning to hit the ball consistently high above the net is critical to getting good depth consistently.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:21 AM   #16
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Made an airnet from volleyball net. works great.
we need help to help nina serve, here is the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEmmk82KVno

any suggestion are welcome. thanks,t om
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:40 PM   #17
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Hi, thank you for all help. here is another video of my daughter playing onehand bh:

http://www.youtube.com/v/HCbZ_Jr-gew

all comments are welcome.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:46 AM   #18
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Firstly I would like to comment on how good your daughters footwork is on her backhand she is bouncing alot and looks very prepared. I'm not sure as I hit a 2handed backhand but maybe in a match if she plays better players she seems not to get back into her ready position quick enough maybe a shorter follow through could help achieve this? She seems like a great up and coming player though congratulations!
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:31 AM   #19
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sorry, those are my two daughters, one is 6 and one is 7. I will try to take some video of their playing. 6 is using PDR+ and 7 is using PC+. I think you are right about the back hand hitting late problem.
I'd like to be restrained here - but why on earth are you subjecting a 6 year old to one of the most brutal racquets around?

A pure drive, roddick, PLUS?

The coach in me is shocked and amazed, and the player in me is shocked and amazed too. I'm 31, 4.5+, big strong guy, and the PDR+ was too heavy for me to drag around. I can't think of any advantage to a 6 year old using it, at all, whatsoever. Other posters have made the point that a 25 or 26 inch frame would be more appropriate. It's so hard for an adult to get any decent racquet-head speed with that frame, let alone a growing young child. That's before even thinking about the injury risk....
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:41 AM   #20
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I agree with OrangeOne that those rackets are a bit brutal, but I think that your daughters can easily tame those racquets with a 2H backhand until they build up some more muscle. The 1H backhand is an extremely demanding shots that requires impeccable timing and tremendous racquet head acceleration to hit correctly. It looks to me as if your daughter has trouble controlling the follow thru, bit problem! Looks to me as if the 2H backhand is the way to go, or a lighter racquet (recommended because of health issues of youngsters not growing as well when they lift heavy things)
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