Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet? - Page 12

Wawa · 07-19-2007, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad iX

It's not the racket.
It's not the racket.
It's not the racket.
It's not the racket.
It's not the racket.

Federer is simply not as dominant as he used to be. His footwork for the most of the 2nd week of Wimbledon was sloppy (for his standards). He isn't setting up as well and obviously a bigger racket will not fix this.

i agree!!!!!!

Wawa · 07-19-2007, 05:10 AM

federer's kfactor doesn't help him to much .
Is his style!

BounceHitBounceHit · 07-19-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wawa

i agree!!!!!!

I agree too. It is DEFINITELY NOT THE RACQUET!!

CC

Kingbipa · 07-19-2007, 10:02 PM

Why even argue about this? Roger plays with the racquet that HE believes produces the best results for him. HE KNOWS which racquet will help him win better than ANY OF US. End of story.

Regarding whether 2007 is his final dominant year, that's not necessarily true. We all know Roger plays very efficiently and takes painstaking care not to injure himself. Who else would skip a warm up tournament to Wimbledon to avoid injury prior to the main event? The vast majority of his matches are 3-setters so from a "mileage" perspective he is doing just fine for someone his age. The question now is can he hold off the young guns for 3-4 more years and really end all debate about whether he is the GOAT by winning 17 or more Grand Slams (yes he needs to win that many to silence the doubters).

I'm not that worried about Nadal. Unless he changes his style of play, he is going to break down in the next 2 years. He's already having knee trouble and without a great serve he's going to remain a grinding baseliner (albeit the best one in the world) and continue accumulating wear and tear.

Roger just needs to hold off Nadal, Djokovic, Gasquet and maybe Murray. Doesn't sound that difficult if you ask me. He just needs to stay healthy and dedicated and let his talent do the talking.

jetlee2k · 07-19-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakPoint

I've said this a million times but I'll say it again.

A bigger racquet will NOT make Federer mishit less! He mishits because of his incredible racquet head speed and NOT because of the size of his racquet. When he mishits he usually hits the ball off of the edge of his frame. He would be doing the same thing with a 95, perhaps even more since I don't know of any 95 frames that are as thin as his 90, as most have even wider beams. And any shots near the frame with a 90 will still be near the frame on a 95 and still be a mishit.

The only way for him to mishit less would be to slow down his swing but then that would take away the awesome spin, power, and control he gets from his shots. His fast swing speed obviously works for him. His 11 Grand Slam titles prove that. Why does he need to change?

Well said.. I agree with Breakpoint 100%.. Forget about Federer, just for an open level player, I play much much better with the smaller head size 90 and then 85 and sometimes I used the old Dunlop Max 200g or Adidas GTX Pro-T Ivan Lendl to play.. It's not the racket head size.. Just the timing and focus on the ball under pressure. If you take PS 85, KFactor 90, and some other mid plus 98 square inch stack them up, the difference is very minimal.. but the control, the feel is huge. I don't know why, my racket feel unstable and tend twisted, mishit more with a midplus racket than a mid 90 or below..

crosscourt · 07-19-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig A. Clark

Yes, because of his variety on the FH wing and (as you correctly pointed out) the ability to play a true 'all court' game that keeps opponents off balance (ie there is no single stroke that exists in isolation from the others, nor from movement, concentration, 'will', etc-all these factors are 'inter-dependent' variables the sum of which can produce, on rare occasions, true greatness)

CC

I see what you mean, but my feeling is that on a clay or slow court Nadal has the best forehand. The spin/depth/angle capabilities that he has are too good.

cc

TennisFrkJC92 · 07-22-2007, 06:30 PM

He's been using small headed racquets his entire life. I'm sure he tried bigger headed racquets. If he played better with them, he would've switched already.

tennis_hand · 07-22-2007, 07:15 PM

well, i don't see why he can't and shouldn't use a 95 inch racket, and he can ask Wilson pro room to modify to his liking of weight and balance, etc. He can use a 90, and he can certainly use a 95.

some of you are exaggerating the change by asking him to use a 100 or 120. lol. well, 90 to 95 is not as radical as that.

but I can understand the difficulty to change. When he switched from 85 to 90, he hadn't won anything big. but now he had won 11 Slams with a 90. Anyone will hesitate to change at this moment. Probably he will experiment to change once he can't win a Slam in a whole year.

Michelangelo · 07-22-2007, 07:17 PM

I wish Wilson will re-release the ProStaff 110 oversize soon and Fed plays with it!

BkK_b0y14 · 07-22-2007, 07:36 PM

isnt there already a thread on this, with the exact same name that was posted a while ago? like after FO 07.

BounceHitBounceHit · 07-22-2007, 07:52 PM

Let's see................

Federer is the best player in the world.
Federer has won 11 Grand Slam titles.
Federer has dominated men's tennis for the past 3-4 years like NOONE before him.
Federer routinely kicks the butt(s), individually and collectively, of dozens of other world class tennis players, who (as SO many on this board have pointed out) ALL use larger frames.

I must admit I am feeling a bit confused: Is it just me, or is the better question, should the rest of the ATP change to a SMALLER frame? Perhaps the K90???

CC

BreakPoint · 07-22-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig A. Clark

I must admit I am feeling a bit confused: Is it just me, or is the better question, should the rest of the ATP change to a SMALLER frame? Perhaps the K90???

I'm with you on that, Craig. But when I said the same thing earlier in this thread, I got flak for it.

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Originally Posted by BreakPoint

The last time I looked, the "best of the best" is Federer and he uses a 90 sq. in. frame. So I'd say it's all the other pros that are missing out and would probably also play better if they all also switched to 90 sq. in. frames. If they want to beat Federer, they'd better all switch to 90's, right?

I think the better question is: Why aren't all the other pros using 90's? Because that's what logic would dictate (if everyone here is assuming it's only the racquet that makes a pro play better).

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Originally Posted by Richie Rich

all the pro's would probably play better with a 90? you can't really be serious

Bottle Rocket · 07-22-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakPoint

I think both his serving and his volleying were better with the PS 6.0 85 than with the K90. Perhaps that's why he almost never serves and volleys anymore, even at Wimbledon. His bigger racquet just does not allow him to do it as well anymore. I can't imagine how much further going to an even bigger racquet would negatively impact his game.

OK, I know people are going to say he's winning more with his 90 than he did with his 85. Well, I think most of that has to do with his mental toughness, focus, experience, stronger desire to win, and ability to now control his emotions and frustrations on court, and less do do with his strokes.

The things that you have convinced yourself of are absolutely incredible. You're just so out there. For a while there, I didn't realize how serious you were about Federer, yourself, and these frames, but now I realize. You're dead serious about this stuff. Unbelievable.

I can't believe that not only are you fully convinced that the things you're saying are truth, but you actually feel like you need to convince others of those beliefs.

Do you have to come onto this board because your hitting partners just don't care about what you have to say, because they think you're full of it?

BreakPoint · 07-22-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottle Rocket

The things that you have convinced yourself of are absolutely incredible. You're just so out there. For a while there, I didn't realize how serious you were about Federer, yourself, and these frames, but now I realize. You're dead serious about this stuff. Unbelievable.

I can't believe that not only are you fully convinced that the things you're saying are truth, but you actually feel like you need to convince others of those beliefs.

Do you have to come onto this board because your hitting partners just don't care about what you have to say, because they think you're full of it?

Uh...did you even watch the complete 5-set 2001 Wimbledon match between Federer and Sampras??

How many people can out-ace Sampras at Wimbledon, (which Federer did with his PS 6.0 85)? And Federer is not even known for a big serve like Sampras was.

Federer also served and volleyed on every first serve and even most second serves. Does he do that now? I see him miss routine volleys all the time now as if he was afraid of going to the net or volleying. Back then with his 85, he was volleying like a maniac and made Sampras look helpless when Federer was at the net.

Why don't you think about that before you open your mouth again?

BreakPoint · 07-22-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottle Rocket

The things that you have convinced yourself of are absolutely incredible. You're just so out there. For a while there, I didn't realize how serious you were about Federer, yourself, and these frames, but now I realize. You're dead serious about this stuff. Unbelievable.

I can't believe that not only are you fully convinced that the things you're saying are truth, but you actually feel like you need to convince others of those beliefs.

Do you have to come onto this board because your hitting partners just don't care about what you have to say, because they think you're full of it?

BTW, just because you're unable to play with a small headed racquet and have to depend on your monstrosity of a racquet to hit the ball, doesn't mean that Federer can't either.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Federer is a slightly better tennis player than you are.

counterpunchingrules · 07-27-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JW10S

Amazing how many people are presumptuous enough to think they know better than the #1 player in the world and holder of 11 Grand Slams what is best for him. Why not call him up and offer your coaching services while you're at it.

haha seriously

rosenstar · 07-28-2007, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PackardDell

I think for Rolland Garos a bigger frame would help him against Nadal. at the moment he uses 90 sq in and for RG he should use about 93 - 95 sq in.

do you really think 3-5 inches with make a noticeable difference?

The Gorilla · 07-28-2007, 07:04 AM

the sweet spot would be in a dramatically different place though

dragonxking · 08-01-2007, 11:15 AM

would fed play better with a 95?
hell no he won't. the k90 and k95 are completely different racquets.

federer envies me · 08-03-2007, 01:50 PM

yeah if he changed to 95, he would get less errors

07-19-2007, 10:02 PM	#224
Kingbipa New User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	Let's end this Why even argue about this? Roger plays with the racquet that HE believes produces the best results for him. HE KNOWS which racquet will help him win better than ANY OF US. End of story. Regarding whether 2007 is his final dominant year, that's not necessarily true. We all know Roger plays very efficiently and takes painstaking care not to injure himself. Who else would skip a warm up tournament to Wimbledon to avoid injury prior to the main event? The vast majority of his matches are 3-setters so from a "mileage" perspective he is doing just fine for someone his age. The question now is can he hold off the young guns for 3-4 more years and really end all debate about whether he is the GOAT by winning 17 or more Grand Slams (yes he needs to win that many to silence the doubters). I'm not that worried about Nadal. Unless he changes his style of play, he is going to break down in the next 2 years. He's already having knee trouble and without a great serve he's going to remain a grinding baseliner (albeit the best one in the world) and continue accumulating wear and tear. Roger just needs to hold off Nadal, Djokovic, Gasquet and maybe Murray. Doesn't sound that difficult if you ask me. He just needs to stay healthy and dedicated and let his talent do the talking.

07-22-2007, 06:30 PM	#227
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07-22-2007, 07:15 PM	#228
tennis_hand Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,394	well, i don't see why he can't and shouldn't use a 95 inch racket, and he can ask Wilson pro room to modify to his liking of weight and balance, etc. He can use a 90, and he can certainly use a 95. some of you are exaggerating the change by asking him to use a 100 or 120. lol. well, 90 to 95 is not as radical as that. but I can understand the difficulty to change. When he switched from 85 to 90, he hadn't won anything big. but now he had won 11 Slams with a 90. Anyone will hesitate to change at this moment. Probably he will experiment to change once he can't win a Slam in a whole year. __________________ Pure Storm Tour Last edited by tennis_hand : 07-22-2007 at 07:20 PM.

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07-22-2007, 07:52 PM	#231
BounceHitBounceHit Legend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In the moment. Posts: 5,187	Let's see................ Federer is the best player in the world. Federer has won 11 Grand Slam titles. Federer has dominated men's tennis for the past 3-4 years like NOONE before him. Federer routinely kicks the butt(s), individually and collectively, of dozens of other world class tennis players, who (as SO many on this board have pointed out) ALL use larger frames. I must admit I am feeling a bit confused: Is it just me, or is the better question, should the rest of the ATP change to a SMALLER frame? Perhaps the K90??? CC __________________ Wilson KPS 88. 364 grams/33cm balance/340 SW. Luxilon BB Ace 18 @ 66#. All frames matched by 1stServiceTennis.com Last edited by BounceHitBounceHit : 07-22-2007 at 07:55 PM.