Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?

[jetlee2k]

oh man, I just can't believe what I am reading this.. It is not the racquet.. and it is not the size.. I own both K90 and K95 and I used to play with 100 and more square inch racquet.. I am a no boday player but I can tell you this, I play much better and hit the ball much much cleaner on K90 than any other racquet. K95 somehow the weight balance is not the same as K90. I even added 3g @ 3,9 & 12 and 10 g in the handle. Fed needs some confidence. He seems his mental focus is not there. At some big points unlike it before, he starts shanking more b/c he's not confidence about his strokes. He also needs some patience again clay court players. I think he's already knew it and trying to fix his game plan.

[djones]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

Schuettler experimented with the Flexpoint Radical midplus for a few months in 2005 then he switched back to the Prestige Classic 600. He has used the Prestige Classic 600 ever since.

Here are some Pictures of Schuettler using the Prestige Classic 600 from the 2007 Hamburg Masters, 2007 BMW Open, 2007 Indian Wells, and 2007 Dubai.




You will note that Rainer's Prestige Classic 600 has the new stencil from this year on the strings. Also Rainer's PC600 has a collar above the grip. The 630 cm2 head size racquet never had a collar and the XL version of the Prestige Classic 600 also did not have a collar.

Are you sure?
To me it looks like a 98 square inch racquet, and not the Prestige Classic 600!

I've been watching Federer closely since 2001. He has always shanked balls from time to time - it's nothing unusual.

For a brief period in 2002 Federer was playing with a Pro Staff 95. In 2001 he used a Pro Staff 85. From 2003 onwards he has settled with a 90 head size.

I think Tenez Sport makes the best assessmnet so far about Federer's problems.

[All Courts]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Actually, he is probably better off playing the bass with a german bow.

Hell, might as well bite the bullet and become the percussionist who bashes the gong!

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by djones

Are you sure?
To me it looks like a 98 square inch racquet, and not the Prestige Classic 600!

I am not sure. I am Positive that Schuettler's racquet is the Prestige Classic 600!!

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

You're absolutely right. Federer did help to design his current racquet and he probably did go through many molds and prototypes. However, all of this happened in 2002 when he switched from the PS 6.0 85 to his current racquet. He's been using the same racquet ever since.

BP makes sense...think about it, why would Fed switch racquets after winning 6-7 GS and countless tourneys? He has been dominate. He never switched racquets. We finally have his "type" of racquet. Fed just came back to earth..that's all. The guy has barely lost the past 2 1/2 years. That kind of winning places and extreme amount of pressure. Maybe that's why Pete was no where near as concerned with regular events as he was with major ones. Fed seems to put a lot of pressure on himself to win all tournaments. The guy could be a little burned out with all of his off-court charity and what nots. Its a phase. He will probably win Wimby and most likely the USO. Its not the racquet.

[drakulie]

Should Nadal switch to a larger frame???

SHANKS
Fed: 1 FH, 2BH= 3 total
Nadal: 4 FH, 1 BH = 5 total

WINNERS
Fed: 15 FH, 2 BH= 17 total
Nadal: 5 FH, 5BH= 10 total

BAGELS
Fed= zero
Nadal= one

[jackcrawford]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Should Nadal switch to a larger frame???

SHANKS
Fed: 1 FH, 2BH= 3 total
Nadal: 4 FH, 1 BH = 5 total

WINNERS
Fed: 15 FH, 2 BH= 17 total
Nadal: 5 FH, 5BH= 10 total

BAGELS
Fed= zero
Nadal= one

Becker serves with a forehand grip and lands on his right foot - he serves well despite it, or to put it another way, it suits him and no other top pro. Fed is the same way - the racquet still suits him, but not other pros. There is no reason it can't also suit you and other high-level club players. My only point is that it is not necessarily a good idea to model yourself on an exception.

[jackcrawford]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

You're absolutely right. Federer did help to design his current racquet and he probably did go through many molds and prototypes. However, all of this happened in 2002 when he switched from the PS 6.0 85 to his current racquet. He's been using the same racquet ever since.

So you've dropped the "artart" Tony Roche PS85 story, which you once believed despite its obvious implausibility?

[NoBadMojo]

Originally Posted by jackcrawford

Tiger Woods had to give up the feel of his beloved small Titleist driver for the forgiveness of the big Nike one when he went a year without winning a stroke play tournament and lost his #1 ranking to Singh; he had been winning in spite of it, not because of it. If the K90 was that great a frame for top-level competition, other pros would use it - the 95 wilson in all its forms has dozens of ATP, WTA, and Challenger tour adherents while the 90 has Fed and an obscure WTAer. Fed wins tournaments, or should I say, won tournaments, in spite of it, not because of it.

nice post..unfortunately in threads like these, your sound logic is lost

[drakulie]

Anyway you "experts" want to cut it, Fed beat one of the best clay courters of all time today on CLAY, with a smaller frame than Nadal. Additionally, Nadal with a larger frame had more shanks, more errors, and less winners. Fed also absolutely destroyed Nadal in the 3rd set 6-0. So much for demanding frames, and not being able to swing them late in matches during "adverse" conditions. Bye, Bye!

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by jackcrawford

So you've dropped the "artart" Tony Roche PS85 story, which you once believed despite its obvious implausibility?

Huh? Not at all. Roche said that the racquet that Federer is using is essentially a ProStaff but with a bigger head, which is what the K90 is pretty close to. Roche never claimed that Federer was using a PS 6.0 85 (while he was coaching him). Please check your facts.

In fact, I just found ART ART's original post:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...38&postcount=1

Excerpt:
"About the nCode of Roger, when I ask him about the composition of the rackett, he told me:" ... this his a copy of the legendary ProStaff 85 but with a larger head size, nothing else, because Roger plays with that racket since he was 15 or 16 years old, but because of clay courts 4 or 5 years ago, Roger have asked Wilson to make the same racket but with a bigger head size."

[WChiang]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Anyway you "experts" want to cut it, Fed beat one of the best clay courters of all time today on CLAY, with a smaller frame than Nadal. Additionally, Nadal with a larger frame had more shanks, more errors, and less winners. Fed also absolutely destroyed Nadal in the 3rd set 6-0. So much for demanding frames, and not being able to swing them late in matches during "adverse" conditions. Bye, Bye!

Nice post..unfortunately in threads like these, your sound logic is lost.

[John Galt]

I think it is now obvious that Nadal is using too big a headsize for his skillset.

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by WChiang

Nice post..unfortunately in threads like these, your sound logic is lost.

Yes, it does get lost. Unfortunately, all the "experts" on this board don't know what sound logic is, much less know what is actually coming out of their mouths/keyboard.

Originally Posted by John Galt

I think it is now obvious that Nadal is using too big a headsize for his skillset.

Absolutely. Glad to see some people using sound logic.

[sureshs]

Everyone remember that no pro, including Federer, uses a PS 85. Not even Sampras any more. Federer said in his interview that he was missing balls in the first set and was too early on his shots. This seems to indicate he was swinging too fast and early, which is needed with an unwieldy racquet. He lost 2-6. In Rolland Garros, the ball is going to bounce even higher and with more topspin to his backhand. He better be careful because Nadal is not going to be too tired to let him comeback from a first set thrashing.

[bluetrain4]

I don't know if I'd trust Wertheim. Yeah, he's got more info than I do, but I don't think he's a very good or resourceful tennis writer. I mean, he never writes anything, just his weekly ad-in, ad-out, and the mailbag. Rarely any substantive articles.

Of course, the blame probably lies with SI, which doesn't devote much space to tennis. We (in America) need real tennis columnists like in Europe.

I won't hold my breath.

[tennis_hand]

Originally Posted by KoreanHB

From what I see. Fed did change his racquet to a smaller head. If you look at pictures of his ncode PJ and Kfactor PJ, the sizes seem different. I dunno maybe it's just me.

It is the color effect.

N90 with that white near PWS will look bigger.
Imagine if he has his rackets painted entirely black, you might say it is a 85 again.

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by sureshs

He better be careful because Nadal is not going to be too tired to let him comeback from a first set thrashing.

The one who needs to be "careful" and consider a frame change is Nadal. He is the one who had more shanks, errors, and less winners. Additionally, the one who was "exhausted" (as you pointed out) at the end of the match. Perhaps from weilding such a "heavy and demanding" frame?? LMAO!

Perhaps he should switch to a 125 square inch 5 ounce racquet?


SHANKS
Fed: 1 FH, 2BH= 3 total
Nadal: 4 FH, 1 BH = 5 total

WINNERS
Fed: 15 FH, 2 BH= 17 total
Nadal: 5 FH, 5BH= 10 total

BAGELS
Fed= zero
Nadal= one[/quote]

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by tennis_hand

It is the color effect.

N90 with that white near PWS will look bigger.
Imagine if he has his rackets painted entirely black, you might say it is a 85 again.

That is totally true. When I look at my all black Vantage 90 next to my red/white nCode 90, the Vantage's head looks much smaller than the head on the nCode 90. But when I put one on top of the other, it turns out that the Vantage 90 is actually slightly bigger than the nCode 90. It's all just an optical illusion as the paintjob makes a big difference in how big or small a racquet looks.