LMAO @ Notre Dame

[soyizgood]

USC got slammed by the NCAA, yet Michigan got 3 years "probation" that amounted to reduced practice time, but no penalties in scholarships/bowl appearances/TV appearances for "major infractions" committed by Rodriguez. NCAA is arbitrary, corrupt, and inconsistent, as usual. West Virginia might be in trouble due to the same type of infractions Rich committed there. I hate tOSU, but this time I hope they steamroll Michigan.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5764611

[soyizgood]

Oklahoma got kicked around by Texas...A&M! Alabama fans can shut up about making the title game. GO LSU! TCU laid a beatdown on Utah.

As for Notre Dame, shame on them forcing a student worker to film the team at high altitude in 50 MPH winds which tragically result in his death.

[soyizgood]

Notre Dame beat Utah? Two weeks after losing to Tulsa?

I think this hurts TCU's title hopes as Utah has been exposed as frauds. TCU struggled against San Diego St. on top of that. I think Boise St. will distance itself from TCU.

Talk about running up the score. Wisconsin 83 Indiana 20... and Wisconsin threw in 24 more pts in the 4th. We get it... Indiana sucks.

[soyizgood]

Oregon survived the trap game 15-13 over Cal. In 2 weeks they face Arizona.

Stanford survives vs Arizona St. 17-13. Pac-10 looking good while the ACC and Big East are downright laughable this year.

[BigServer1]

Originally Posted by soyizgood

Oregon survived the trap game 15-13 over Cal. In 2 weeks they face Arizona.

Stanford survives vs Arizona St. 17-13. Pac-10 looking good while the ACC and Big East are downright laughable this year.

Man...That was terrifying to watch today as an Oregon fan. Terrible penalties, mistakes...That fumble in the end zone. Jesus...I feel lucky to get out with a win, but I'm glad that we were able to win a tight game, especially since we held the ball the last 9:30 and dragged the clock out. Oregon is definitely proving that they can win with defense and ball control.

The Pac-10 is looking OK at the top, with 10-0 Oregon, 9-1 Stanford and both UA and USC at 7-3. I wish there were a couple more 6-4 teams, but oh well. Also, congrats to WSU for finally winning a conference game.

The Big East and ACC are AWFUL this season. If this keeps up, they'll have to look at pulling the Automatic status, especially for the Big East, which is horrific and will likely put an unranked team in a BCS game.

[soyizgood]

The ACC and Big East both deserve to lose their automatic bid. A waste of two BCS spots. Folks want to slam Boise St. for its conference, yet they have as many BCS bowl wins (2) as the entire ACC. So does Utah. The ACC's best team, Virginia Tech, lost to James Madison this year and it wouldn't surprise me to see them lose the ACC title game to some hack program.

[NLBwell]

I'm a Mountain West fan, but wasn't a believer in Utah. Beat Pittsburg, who was highly ranked at the time, but hasn't proven to be all that great. Close game against Air Force, who maybe could be ranked around 25 or so at best, so that doesn't prove much more than they should be ranked around 20 (like Oklahoma). Because of the hangover from the TCU game, I wouldn't have been shocked to see them lose to Notre Dame, but I was amazed that they were crushed. They were perhaps the worst team in the country on Saturday.
San Diego State is a very good team - better than Cal or Georgia - and should be ranked in the top 20. TCU should gain respect for beating SD State badly after they were behind by 14."TCU scored touchdowns on five of its next six drives before halftime to build a 34-14 lead. The Aztecs didn’t even make a first down in that span."
After the game was decided TCU let down and SD Statae got some back-door scores. San Diego State has lost to TCU (#3), Missouri (#15) by 3 points, and inexplicably BYU by 3.


For those who want the ACC and Big East to lose their automatic bid (and the Big 10 if you look at results rather than the polls isn't any better than the ACC) remember that the BCS is not about rankings, but about money. The ACC, Big East, and Big 10 have large population centers, big schools, and big TV markets. The Mountain West and WAC may have some better football teams, but the other conferences aren't going to cut them in on the money.
The Big East is trying to steal away TCU from the Mountain West so they can mantain a reason to be in the BCS, just as the Pac-10 stole Utah away (and BYU went out on its own for a Notre Dame-like one team TV contract). I can't blame them for leaving, the money is the driving factor.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by BigServer1

Man...That was terrifying to watch today as an Oregon fan. Terrible penalties, mistakes...That fumble in the end zone. Jesus...I feel lucky to get out with a win, but I'm glad that we were able to win a tight game, especially since we held the ball the last 9:30 and dragged the clock out. Oregon is definitely proving that they can win with defense and ball control.

The Pac-10 is looking OK at the top, with 10-0 Oregon, 9-1 Stanford and both UA and USC at 7-3. I wish there were a couple more 6-4 teams, but oh well. Also, congrats to WSU for finally winning a conference game.

The Big East and ACC are AWFUL this season. If this keeps up, they'll have to look at pulling the Automatic status, especially for the Big East, which is horrific and will likely put an unranked team in a BCS game.

I'll bet you couldn't get a greased needle through your "tightness" Saturday night, BigServe. Cal just dumbfounds me this year. I watch a lot of their games, being in Cali and my wife's entire family being Berk grads. How do you crush AZ St and give Oregon a heart attack, then get utterly dominated by USC, Oregon St (huh?) and NEVADA (bigger huh?!).

ACC is awful this year but my young Hokies are getting better every game. That Boise game was a toss-up, considering their experience and how young the Hokies D is/#of players they lost last year. No excuse for JMU. I don't think Miami will give them much trouble next week and can't see FSU or Maryland beating Va Tech in the title game.

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by NLBwell

I'm a Mountain West fan, but wasn't a believer in Utah. Beat Pittsburg, who was highly ranked at the time, but hasn't proven to be all that great. Close game against Air Force, who maybe could be ranked around 25 or so at best, so that doesn't prove much more than they should be ranked around 20 (like Oklahoma). Because of the hangover from the TCU game, I wouldn't have been shocked to see them lose to Notre Dame, but I was amazed that they were crushed. They were perhaps the worst team in the country on Saturday.
San Diego State is a very good team - better than Cal or Georgia - and should be ranked in the top 20. TCU should gain respect for beating SD State badly after they were behind by 14."TCU scored touchdowns on five of its next six drives before halftime to build a 34-14 lead. The Aztecs didn’t even make a first down in that span."
After the game was decided TCU let down and SD Statae got some back-door scores. San Diego State has lost to TCU (#3), Missouri (#15) by 3 points, and inexplicably BYU by 3.


For those who want the ACC and Big East to lose their automatic bid (and the Big 10 if you look at results rather than the polls isn't any better than the ACC) remember that the BCS is not about rankings, but about money. The ACC, Big East, and Big 10 have large population centers, big schools, and big TV markets. The Mountain West and WAC may have some better football teams, but the other conferences aren't going to cut them in on the money.
The Big East is trying to steal away TCU from the Mountain West so they can mantain a reason to be in the BCS, just as the Pac-10 stole Utah away (and BYU went out on its own for a Notre Dame-like one team TV contract). I can't blame them for leaving, the money is the driving factor.

Good points about $$$. Of course a playoff system is ideal but while we're stuck with the BCS, who gets the ACC/Big East auto bids? The WAC because of one good team (Boise) and a recently good Nevada? Mountain West? Better choice than the WAC but Utah is leaving and TCU won't be there for long. Wyoming/C State/New Mexico/UNLV or the history and big $$ of schools like Syracuse, UConn, Pitt, WVU, UVA, UNC and the rest of the ACC? It's a no-brainer. The ACC is having a bad decade but Miami and FSU won't be down much longer. VA Tech is always in the conversation, UNC is looking much better under Davis (if he survives his scandals), GA Tech and Clemson always put out good teams. It really wasn't all that long ago when UVA was always top 20, even top 10.

And let's not forget that even Boise is 2-4 in their last 6 bowl games with losses to Boston College, East Carolina, Louisville and TCU. If you look at the ACC's losses in BCS games, they primarily come at the expense of the SEC (everyone's best conference in football) and they're pretty much all competetive games. Va Tech is pretty much .500 in their last 10 and last 20 bowl games.

[NLBwell]

I agree about the ACC. They have some historically strong programs and these things run in cycles. The Big East, however, lost their strong football programs to the ACC (Miami, BC, Va Tech). The Mountain West/old WAC (as opposed to the current WAC) has been a major football conference for a long time, much longer than the ACC or certainly the Big East - which wasn't even a conference. - Wyoming was a national power in the 60's (Texas took coach Fred Akers from there) - AF got some top 10 rankings (though they weren't in the conference then). Remember, the PAC-8 became the PAC-10 by stealing Arizona and Az St. In the late 80's early 90's or so, the MtnWest/WAC had 5 teams in the top 25 for a week or two and the PAC-10 had none - BYU (who won a national championship), AF, Utah, CSU, and New Mexico. A lot of the kids are recruited from California, so the PAC-10 and MtnWest tend to cycle opposite each other (though of course AF is national and TCU is Texas).

Boise St. beat TCU last year in their BCS bowl.

Until the middle of this year, the last team to beat Alabama was Utah, which crushed them in the bowl game. (Also, I think Urban Meyer's Utah team was the best in the country that year - they were the biggest, strongest team in the country and should have gotten someone better than Pittsburg to prove it against. People think of non-BCS conferences doing it with speed and guile, but that Utah team was big.)

Yes, it's sad that New Mexico, CSU, and a couple of the others are so terrible and I don't think the MtnWest will ever have the depth that the ACC does - a far smaller population to draw recruits from. Historically, the current situation has been true a lot of the time. A couple really top teams and the rest far behind.

[soyizgood]

I know it's not college, but I am still ROFLMAO at the contract McNabb got. And that's after all the money the 'skins pissed away on Haynesworth. I wouldn't let McNabb run QB drills for pop warner kids, let alone fork $40 million in GUARANTEED money.

[Kevin T]

Boise St. beat TCU last year in their BCS bowl.

Yes, but TCU beat them in their bowl game the year prior and 5 years ago.

Agree about Utah. They've had some quality teams and certainly have performed well against the big guys.

Just wait until Cam Newton becomes ineligible and Auburn has to forfeit their season...or Bama gets the upset. If that happens and Oregon loses, for better or worse, a TCU vs. Boise BCS championship will make college football fans' heads explode.

[NLBwell]

As much as I think it's possible that TCU and Boise State are the best two teams (depending upon what happens the rest of the season, of course) I wouldn't really like to see that. I'd like to see TCU's defense go against Oregon's offense. I think TCU would shut them down, but I'd like to know for sure. Boise State vs. Auburn might be a hugely fun shootout. I'd like to measure the two outsiders versus the others, which didn't get to happen last year. As for ending the season with an argument on who is number one, I actually like that. I don't need closure that badly.

[soyizgood]

USC got bombed by the Beavers. There went the goal of a 10 win season. Still have hacks like UCLA and Notre Dame left to beat.

[soyizgood]

Leave it to ND to blow it on this play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1zU...eature=related

[jamesblakefan#1]

Auburn survived after Bama choked like dogs. Fairley's the only good defensive player they have. Bama went from shutting down Newton and co in the first half to getting steamrolled in the 2nd. Saban seemed to get outcoached in the 2nd half.

Speaking of defense, Oregon seems to have none against Zona. I'm still not convinced either one of these teams is that much better than Boise or TCU. CFB needs a playoff so badly it's not even funny anymore.

And that OSU president is a maroon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf...ory?id=5847542

[dlk]

^^^Agreed.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Refs bailing out Oregon. College sports is so clean, not corrupt at all.

[soyizgood]

^^^ tOSU is lucky the NCAA won't go after their national title. Clarett claimed folks took tests for him and that he didn't attend classes. Given how dumb Clarett was there was likely some truth behind it.

I HATE Ohio St. From their school president to their football coach to the generous preseason ranks they get year in and out. A few years ago they got a BCS bid over Boise St. despite being lower ranked than them in the final BCS poll. Tressel is lucky Michigan is in the dumps. And even then they got their butt kicked by Wisconsin this year.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Yeah the Big Ten sucks this year.

Oh and want to know how big a joke the BCS is? UConn will be in a BCS bowl if they win their last 2 games.
(No offense to all the UConn alums)