LMAO @ Notre Dame

[Kevin T]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

The top SEC teams are just deeper in pure atheletes than any other conference. Just check the maps of blue chip recruits. The south east almost has a lock on the blue chippers.

If these maps dont break it down I dont what does.

Nice graphics, Hollywood. I mentioned the same thing in the college football thread yesterday. These maps are the very reason the ACC has no excuse for doing so poorly. These are wealthy schools with the resources to compete. ACCer's will always pull the tougher academics argument but why can Stanford and ND do so well? The Big 10 commish even mentioned changing demographics for the MD and Rutgers grab...he knows what's up for the future. Bball schools aside (UNC, Duke, Wake), Va Tech, NC St, Clemson and FSU should always be competing for the top 15-20 spots.

[hollywood9826]

Growing up in MD through the 80's and 90's nobody around me really cared about college football. NFL wasnt that big of a deal either. Maybe becuase the Colts leaving Im not sure. But everyone always cared about the O's and they cared about Terp basketball.

But then around the 2000's (when MD won BBall title ironcially) fridgen came and got blasted by Florida in a big bowl game. The the ravnes won the SB and everyone around here started caring about football. Gary Williams didnt\wasnt allowed to recryuit the 1 and done BBall kids in the area and basketabll hit a flat spot missing the tournement. Now all the talk is about football, local news barely even covers the terps. Its been all ravens and Big 10 football now.

[hollywood9826]

What kills me with that map is how small the blue chip count is in MD. There are so many great yougn athleletes in the state. I guess they seem to go the BBall route though like Casell and Carmelo.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

What kills me with that map is how small the blue chip count is in MD. There are so many great yougn athleletes in the state. I guess they seem to go the BBall route though like Casell and Carmelo.

That Durant guy ain't too bad either.

[tricky]

Va Tech, NC St, Clemson and FSU should always be competing for the top 15-20 spots.

I think the issue is whether the schools want to shell out the huge money to hire star coaches. For example, Beamer makes less than Schiano at Rutgers. Most schools lose a lot of money to fund a college football team.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by tricky

I think the issue is whether the schools want to shell out the huge money to hire star coaches. For example, Beamer makes less than Schiano at Rutgers. Most schools lose a lot of money to fund a college football team.

Not a good example. At VT and in Virginia, Beamer is a star. Even though he may soon move on and bring in his successor. I don't buy that players would rather play for Schiano than Beamer, not like Rutgers won anything while Schiano was there, even compared to VT and in the feeble Big Least.

[rosenstar]

Originally Posted by tricky

I think the issue is whether the schools want to shell out the huge money to hire star coaches. For example, Beamer makes less than Schiano at Rutgers. Most schools lose a lot of money to fund a college football team.

NCst and Clemson have a lot of competition to recruit those blue chips (UNC, NCst, USCe, Clemson, UGA, GT, ECU, and UT are all within driving distance of NC/SC .

Given the historical prestige of FSU's football program (only program ever to finish ranked in the AP top 5 14 YEARS IN A ROW), relatively low academic standards and their >$80mil athletic budget, they should be top 15 even in a down year.

Originally Posted by hollywood9826

What kills me with that map is how small the blue chip count is in MD. There are so many great yougn athleletes in the state. I guess they seem to go the BBall route though like Casell and Carmelo.

As someone who's lived in MD, then moved to Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech), I've noticed that people (fans) in major cities don't care about college football. Also, if you were to draw two lines through DC, one vertical and one horizontal, you'll find that just about no one in that top right corner cares about college football (some parts of PA being the exception).

[jaggy]

IU soccer goes on to the men's soccer final 4. 2 wins away from their 8th nation championship, Birmningham Alabama here I come baby.

[Fearsome Forehand]

FYI: The maps are per capita not nominal. The populous states produce the most players, the rural states in certain regions will have the highest per capita figures. If a state has a relatively high population and still has a high per capita figure then it will supply tons of blue chip players. Texas and Florida stand out in that regard. Louisiana must be football crazy (like Indiana is basketball crazy) given its very high per capita figures. Hawaii's per capita figures are surprisingly high. I would imagine California produces the most blue chip players overall even though its per capita figures are not that high.

[jaggy]

Weekend in Alabamar watching the mighty Hoosiers win their 8th national soccer championship.

#16 seeds win it all, LOL at the #1 seeds (showing topic relevance).

[NickC]

I think in light of what's happening in Miami right now, this thread deserves a bump.

[Overheadsmash]

What a beat down. If there has ever been a case for a playoff, this is it.

That's why I like tennis so much - you need to earn way into a grand slam final match.

[norbac]

Shame it wasn't a shutout.

[NLBwell]

Originally Posted by norbac

Shame it wasn't a shutout.

Semi-prevent defense and loss of intensity from being so far ahead.


Notre Dame definitely improved this year, good for them. Still, no team in the middle-west is in the class of the very top teams.

[Dedans Penthouse]

Originally Posted by NickC

I think in light of what's happening in Miami right now, this thread deserves a bump.

There's already a 'College Football 2012' thread...but you'd rather go the d-bag flame route. Then again, what would you bring to the 'College Football 2012' table? Nothing. Enjoy your fluke "big win" over Nevada?

NEVADA?

Who are you to flame Mr. Port Chester posing as Greenwich?

Si habla that

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Dedans Penthouse

There's already a 'College Football 2012' thread...but you'd rather go the d-bag flame route. Then again, what would you bring to the 'College Football 2012' table? Nothing. Enjoy your fluke "big win" over Nevada?

NEVADA?

Our football team sucks. I am fully aware of that. Did I ever say we were good? No. Our team is in the dumps and bringing RichRod is with merit, but I don't like it as a direction in which our program is going because it means we're spending tons of money we don't have to appease him and grant his every wish, including dropping 10 million on a new scoreboard, some 35 million on a new facility that's taken the student recreation field away from the students and handed to the football program, AFTER they took over the old baseball stadium and didn't give it to the students as a recreation field like they said they would. All this is being funded by the school jacking up tuition by an additional 5k a semester, which is absurd. All of this is being done in the name of turning our school from a basketball school into a football school, which is stupid because you just can't do those kinds of things overnight, especially when your basketball team has a history and a national title under it's belt and the football team has absolutely nothing of note. We're not a football school. We were never a football school. We will never be a football school. And I'm happy with that.

We deserved to loose to Nevada and we should have. I'm not defending our team. If I was, do you really think I'd be bashing our coach and program?

Who are you to flame Mr. Port Chester posing as Greenwich?

Si habla that

I went to Greenwich High School, Western Middle School and Glenville Elementary. My house is literally on the border between the two towns. Mailbox is in Port Chester and the house is in Greenwich. We pay taxes to CT although I had the option of attending school in Rye Brook (I'm not Jewish so I took a pass on that). Would you like me to email you my address so you can go check on Google maps to confirm what I said? As far as I'm concerned, I'm all Greenwich, I just tell folks I'm not from there when there's banter against the proverbial 1%, because there are tons of folks who automatically assume that being from Greenwich means I'm in the 1% and a trust fund baby who drives a Beamer. I'm as far from the Greenwich stereotype as one can get whilst still being white, not in poverty and decently educated.

And I'm not hating on ND either, I'm just pointing a few things out. For what it's worth, a good friend of mine's brother played for them. My close circle of friends when I studied abroad were all from Notre Dame, and they looked after me as if I was their younger brother, something for which I will always be grateful for. I have a ton of respect for their institution. Did I think their football team was overrated? Absolutely, and now it's in plain sight that they were.

My bump was a joke. It's obvious you're still reeling over the fact that your favorite pro team stupidly decided to keep that fat oaf of a head coach, which was the reason they sucked this year.

[norbac]

If you think about it the game was actually pretty close. Take away 42 points from Alabama, and Notre Dame actually won.

[jamesblakefan#1]

Apparently Manti Te'o's dead girlfriend never existed, and he was in on it.

http://deadspin.com/5976517/?utm_cam...&post=56284133

WOW.

[norcal]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Apparently Manti Te'o's dead girlfriend never existed, and he was in on it.

http://deadspin.com/5976517/?utm_cam...&post=56284133

WOW.

I was about to post that. ND claims he's the victim of a hoax but if you read what he said there is no logical way he wasn't in on it.

Dude's a pathological liar. I thought the younger generation knew better than to perpetuate big lies on the internet - it never works. Wonder how it will affect his draft status? Dude is mental.

[wrxinsc]

One of the strangest sports related things ever. Just skimmed the article but as jbf said. wow.