What is going on with Fed?

[Rhino]

Originally Posted by sureshs

Is this the beginning of the end?

wow, I wish I had £1 for every time someone has said that over the years on this forum.

[lambielspins]

Originally Posted by naffi

He needs a coach, or he can kiss the rest of his career goodbye.

Yes. It is definitely his own ego that makes him believe he does not need a coach. Watching him play these last 8 months it could not be more obvious how much he does need one. The unfortunate thing is all the luck he got at Wimbledon and the U.S Open probably continues the delusion in his mind he doesnt that much more.

[Morrissey]

Originally Posted by kingdaddy41788

You don't "get lucky" and win Wimbledon OR the US Open, let alone both.



Retiring while he's still in his prime. Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Did Sampras retire in his prime? Agassi? You're a damn fool.

I don't think he's serious. I think it's said to rile people up. I can't speak for him but I don't think he believes it's over for Fed. I don't like Fed and I have to say that I need to see 2008 slam results to be sure about his state.

[BurghKing]

Originally Posted by lambielspins

There is no question the quality of his own tennis has been way down the last 8 months from what it used to be. That cant be attributed just to his opponents, it is too obvious in watching him play, his own mechanics, strategy, footwork, etc...Others playing better may have a part in more losses, but since the much reduced quality of his own tennis is so blatantly apparent that obviously has alot to do with his being much less successful too.

It is unfortunate in many ways he won Wimbledon and the U.S Open. The reason I say that is it probably creates a false delusion in his own mind where his game is really heading at the moment, and losing at one or both may have served as a wakeup call to really examine where his game has been heading lately. Both really ought to not have happened the way he performed. He won both with uninspired, unimpressive, ugly tennis, and was quite lucky in both. The Wimbledon final vs Nadal was pure luck, and other then his serve his play was down the crapper that match, he was even lucky to play a tired Gasquet, and he could have easily lost the first 2 sets to Ferrero who is someone he should not have trouble with on grass to say the least. The U.S Open was even worse, but he just couldnt lose, Federer has such a stranglehold on Roddick that no matter how sluggish Federer is and how great Roddick is there is something that will keep Federer winning everytime, Davydenko for the second straight slam semi could have won in 4 sets and choked and choked due to the Federer aura or something, then Djokovic in the final did his best Dayvdenko interpretation and choked repeatedly.

You're right...he is playing so bad that he has once again won 3 out of 4 Grand Slams. Gosh, I would really hate to not play my best and still beat all of the players that are supposedly going to take my spot. Once again, a win is a win. He will never be perfect because not everyone has the same definition...except for the Hall of Fame which looks at wins and titles. It's hard to deny those numbers.

[Morrissey]

Originally Posted by lambielspins

Yes. It is definitely his own ego that makes him believe he does not need a coach. Watching him play these last 8 months it could not be more obvious how much he does need one. The unfortunate thing is all the luck he got at Wimbledon and the U.S Open probably continues the delusion in his mind he doesnt that much more.

Now you might be on to something here. After a while, you need an outside voice and not the girlfriend. Someone who knows men's tennis. Roche told him the right strategy, but he was frustrated that it didn't work so he canned him.

[Stchamps]

Kiss his career goodbye? Beginning of the end?

Weren't people saying this same thing when Fed lost in Montreal to Djokovic? Then what happened....Federer came back and dominated in the US Open. I'm not the biggest Fed fan ever, but some of these comments are ridiculous.

[rosenstar]

Originally Posted by lambielspins

There is no question the quality of his own tennis has been way down the last 8 months from what it used to be. That cant be attributed just to his opponents, it is too obvious in watching him play, his own mechanics, strategy, footwork, etc...Others playing better may have a part in more losses, but since the much reduced quality of his own tennis is so blatantly apparent that obviously has alot to do with his being much less successful too.

It is unfortunate in many ways he won Wimbledon and the U.S Open. The reason I say that is it probably creates a false delusion in his own mind where his game is really heading at the moment, and losing at one or both may have served as a wakeup call to really examine where his game has been heading lately. Both really ought to not have happened the way he performed. He won both with uninspired, unimpressive, ugly tennis, and was quite lucky in both. The Wimbledon final vs Nadal was pure luck, and other then his serve his play was down the crapper that match, he was even lucky to play a tired Gasquet, and he could have easily lost the first 2 sets to Ferrero who is someone he should not have trouble with on grass to say the least. The U.S Open was even worse, but he just couldnt lose, Federer has such a stranglehold on Roddick that no matter how sluggish Federer is and how great Roddick is there is something that will keep Federer winning everytime, Davydenko for the second straight slam semi could have won in 4 sets and choked and choked due to the Federer aura or something, then Djokovic in the final did his best Dayvdenko interpretation and choked repeatedly.

this is soooooo ridiculous. You cannot intelligently say that fed got lucky at wimbledon and the US Open. He was the best player in the field and he won.

Roddick and davydinko (I'm a fan of both) are not better than Fed. I hate to admit it, but Roddick played incredible in the quarters, but there was nothing he could do. Federrer played amazing.

So, what do you think is the difference between playing well, getting lucky, and playing someone who's not as good as you?

Even if he did get lucky, it doesn't matter. When you're on the court you do what you need to do to win. All that matters is getting the W. Again, do you think the ranking system reflects a player's score? Do you think it ranks players based on how many off days they have? they don't. All the computer that creates the rankings sees is wins and losses.

I will not deny that Federrer is past his peak, but to say that he still cannot compete with the game's best is Ludacris. And to blame two of his most recent GS victories on luck, that's complete BS.

again, The guy is an incredible player. He can loose every now and then, it's ok.

[burosky]

I guess I accidentally pushed some buttons with this post. I was just being sarcastic hence the wink. Personally, I don't think anything is wrong. He is still the same Fed. It is just sometimes, other players like Canas, Djokovic, the Italian guy (I forgot the name) and Nalbandian plays one of those matches to remember and wins. I'm not a Fed fan but I do acknowledge that he basically is raising the bar for men's tennis. I'm sure there is a junior out there right now who will raise the bar even higher in the future.

[stormholloway]

People should embrace the moments when there's actually solid competition at these tournaments, rather than spelling doom for Federer's career.

What a ridiculous thread.

[IanRichardson]

if you guys havent noticed, every time a pro loses a point they are automatically terrible, fat, one dimensional, blah blah blah. At least on this forum they are. Particularly if the pros name happens to be: roddick, blake, isner, nalbandian, federer, or nadal

I suppose everyone who feels if federer loses then his career is over should just stop playing tennis next time they lose, which if you are dumb enough to think that it is probably going to be your next match. NOBODY wins all the time, especially not in tennis. You guys should know there are a bunch of factors which can cause you to play bad so for someone to lose a match and then it to be over is just insane. Everyone has ups and downs, personally I am in a down right now, but all you can do is keep playing. Federer wont be done until he stops believing he can win, and i dont think that will be for a while. (If he took a look at the forums he might change his mind though, so many haters)

And to the person who said people on the forum might get a game off top 100 guys really made me laugh. Perhaps there are a few on here who could, but i really doubt it.

[burosky]

Originally Posted by IanRichardson

And to the person who said people on the forum might get a game off top 100 guys really made me laugh. Perhaps there are a few on here who could, but i really doubt it.

Don't be so quick to judge people here in the forum. There might be an active ATP pro lurking here.

[Ronaldo]

Fed is rusty after that US Open break

[drakulie]

Fed just needs to switch to a larger frame. he will be fine.

[IanRichardson]

Originally Posted by burosky

Don't be so quick to judge people here in the forum. There might be an active ATP pro lurking here.

how silly of me

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Fed just needs to switch to a larger frame. he will be fine.

You must enjoy beating a dead horse to... well, death.

[drakulie]

^^ I figured I'd beat the haters to the punch.

[FedForGOAT]

This year was definitely a bit sluggish, but that doesn't mean its the end. Fed could come back and completely dominate next year. I mean seriously, you can't expect every year to be better than the last one.

[drakulie]

^^ He did domintate this year. He made it to all 4 slam finals (only player on tour), and won 3 of them (only player on tour).

[AlpineCadet]

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^ I figured I'd beat the haters to the punch.

l can't help but laugh every time I see it written down.

[FedForGOAT]

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^ He did domintate this year. He made it to all 4 slam finals (only player on tour), and won 3 of them (only player on tour).

I meant dominate by his standards. he lost seven matches this year (Oh my!) to players like Canas and Volandri.

But that's also a great point. Even when he's rusty he can still dominate, so he still has some good year of rusty dominance left in him.