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10-27-2007, 04:59 PM
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Frustrating USTA Match 3.5
Hi everyone,
This is my first time playing USTA, and I must say it is some fierce tennis I was in a very close match on Friday my partner and I lost 6-4,6-4 against the no.1 team in our division. So I feel like we played well, However one of the opponents made about 10 blatantly bad line calls. I only called her on one of them, because I felt like my hands were tied. It is their call after all and she made me very aware of that!! The other thing she did to make it a "not so pleasant match" was I took a quick drink of water after the first game, which I won off my serve, and she yelled " YOU CAN"T HAVE ANY WATER AFTER THE FIRST GAME USTA RULES." I was even on the court before her but she just wanted to be nasty. I really feel like the match would have been ours if she was honest. Very Frustrating! How do you all handle bad calls? Thanks!! |
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10-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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Call two of her balls out after the first bad call, that's the USTA way.
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10-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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What kind of wierd rule is that, no water after the 1st game? Can't imagine why that has anything to do with anything, if you are thirsty and it is a side change why not?
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10-27-2007, 05:08 PM
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Btw, squirt her next time
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10-27-2007, 05:08 PM
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Though, in every match I've played, if someone wanted water, it wasn't a problem. Sounds like the OP just ran into some nasty people.
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10-27-2007, 05:41 PM
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Ugh. I had a USTA official get all over my a** for getting water after the
1st game of the second set. It was only 105 degrees, indoors, with ZERO circulation.... We argued and I almost got kicked out. Apparently, it IS the rule. I'm all about following the rules.
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10-27-2007, 05:42 PM
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Topaz is sort of right, you only get a 90 second break after the 3rd game and after every odd game after that. But there is no rule that you cant drink water. You get 20 seconds between every point (including when you switch sides after the first game and in a tiebreaker). You can do whatever you want in that 20 seconds. (you could drink water between every point if you wanted as long as you could do it within 20 seconds) If you took too long after the first game, I think it's fair game for them to mention to you that you dont get a break after the first game. But if you were ready to play before them, and they are just saying "you cant drink water", then they dont know what they are talking about. (because if you took over 20 seconds, that means they took over 20 seconds and they should shut up) Ive bothered other people before for that (taking too long after the first game). It's usually indoor players who dont usually switch ends, and all the sudden think switching ends is a good excuse to take a nap between every change over. Amazingly something similar to this came up in our local league playoffs last year. Someone who I know from one of my 3.0 teams was in one of those Coman tiebreakers on a very hot day, and while switching ends he was yelled at "for drinking water". I know it's a "real" official, but he's still wrong. (usually in that situation, I try not to take anymore time then my opponent, if they are needlessly stalling, then Im going to take a drink, but if they are ready to play, then I make sure Im ready to play.) Personally I hate it when people make up rules. Next time someone makes up a rule like that (and crys "USTA rules"), ask them to "SHOW ME!!!". I doubt they brought their friend of the court with them and probally dont even know what one is. |
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10-27-2007, 05:56 PM
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As long as you dont disturb your partner and interupt the flow of the game, you might as well ask everytime. Dont get mad and make a big scene out of it since they are not going to change their call, but at least give them the message that you think they made a horrible call and you know about it. Some people (not all) get embarressed then about making future bad calls. I dont think retalitory cheating is really the answer. But if they are making it that unpleasant and screwing up what otherwise could be a fair competition, there isnt any point in you bending over backwards to make it fun for them either. Although if some team is cheating and you end up playing them, there is some satisfaction in being able to beat them even though they did cheat. If you cheat as well, you cant have that. |
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10-27-2007, 06:05 PM
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However that's not a lot of time to change ends, so if you stop and sit there and drink water, then you are wasting time and they can complain. If somehow you could do it while walking to the other end though they cant really say anything (unless they dont know the rules which can be likely). The only thing it does say is you dont get to rest. But that just means you cant stop and rest (and waste time). It doesnt say you cant drink water, towel off, whatever...... He probally just really scolded you for stopping instead of getting ready to play the next point. I think the trouble is you get 90 seconds all the other times but most of us do not take 90 seconds. We walk over, we towel off, take a sip of water and then get ready to play. That probally doesnt take much more than 20 seconds. So if we try to follow the rules on the first game, somehow we have this expectation that we arent going to waste all the time we do the other times but in reality most of us are not making full use of all the time we get between changovers anyway. (the match would take forever if we used ALL the time given to us between points and games) |
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10-27-2007, 06:41 PM
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Ask the official next time if he knows CPR. This stuff gets so silly. Who cares if someone takes a drink after the first game or during tiebreak changeovers. The pros do and nobody calls them on it.
I was coaching a High School team a few years ago and this happen. My number 2 girl was having a typical long pusher type match with a girl her equal. She lost the first set 6-4 and was in a tiebreak for the second set. It was a hot spring day and nobody was adjusted to the heat. At 3-3 she looked so red-faced on the changeover I told her to take some water. The other coach went bananas, telling me that USTA rules say no water breaks on tiebreak changeovers. I ask the A.D. for the County about this and she laughed. She said next time it happen to ask the other coach if she was going to assume responsibility for whatever happen to my player. |
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10-28-2007, 06:49 AM
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10-28-2007, 06:52 AM
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Let me quote her, "...don't get pissy with me." I asked if that was some kind of threat. She backed down. But, proceeded to watch our court for the next entire set. It got to my head and I lost the second set badly, after easily winning the 1st. Not my favorite Districts....
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10-28-2007, 07:32 AM
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If someone is making bad line calls in our USTA matches, after the second or third "Are you sure?" we request line judges. In our area, one representatve from each team act as judges. They stand by the net posts. They DO NOT call lines unless one of of the players asks for a ruling. It cuts down on bad line calls real quick.
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10-28-2007, 09:14 AM
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Tennis is supposed to be fun. If the other side is cheating, there is not much you can do. Of course, you can start cheating as well, but it never seems to make the situation much better. I have been at matches where people start threatening to take their differences off the court to the parking lot.
To be honest with you, I find the best thing to do sometimes is to resign and walk off the court because it is not worth playing if the other side cheats constantly. I think that other posters had good comments regarding the rules - you can ask for confirmation from the partner - if they are unsure, then the point is technically yours. |
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10-28-2007, 01:25 PM
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10-28-2007, 03:57 PM
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<The other coach went bananas...>
Yeah, I just followed my two daughters through their first high school varsity season. Most of the coaches, all males in the girls league, we're basically gym teachers...and a real joke. I didn't see a lot of teaching. |
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10-29-2007, 08:09 AM
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People know when they are being @ssholes and they like to test their opponents. If they are @ssholes and you do nothing and absorb what they dish out then they feel they have the upper hand and continue with the behavior. If you either directly or indirectly respond to their behavior enough for them to notice it then they feel like crap because you have acknowledged their behaviour and then procedd to back off. I usually blow off 1-2 bad line calls because no one is perfect but if it continues then you should say something to them. If it continues past that then for every bad call they make you follow it up with 2 
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10-29-2007, 03:42 PM
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without an issue. Actually, from my observations, even though this "new" 'changeover rule' has been in effect since aprox 2000, I am amazed at the percentage of players that still grab a squat after a SET's 1st game...they are the same folks that are unaware you are entitled to a 'break' when the set ends at an 'even' game sum...HOWEVER, I just 'grin and bear it'...I would never take a petty stance and complain about my opponent getting a sip of water on "1st game" changeover. |
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10-29-2007, 03:46 PM
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I have no problem with someone taking a drink or a quick towel-off during the quick change after the 1st game of a set. I draw the line at taking a seat though.
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10-29-2007, 08:39 PM
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My rule when it is Hot I take all long as I can, I watch until I think they might start getting mad then I get up or I have even told my partner to sit down and get some water or I have even hid balls when it is real hot lol sorry Onetime it was over a 110 on the court and I intentionallty hit 2 balls over into the highway during play of course and sent my coach to get it and he stalled for 10 minutes I was serving fo the match and needed the extra time he came back with new balls sorry it worked I appoligize Very bad I know Ill deny this of course LOL
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