*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

[Gorecki]

Originally Posted by jayserinos99

^ it should be 18x20; prestige mp cap grommets or radical mp grommets will fit. the 690 should be 18x19 which is the same for radical os.

funny... i compared the radical grommets (i have a few) and they fit... but i have no 630 grommets to try...

it says 18x19 in the throat but it has 8 holes in the bridge! so my guess is that its a missprint. could it be?

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

Any luck with a lower tension on the 280?

I just cut out the PSGD and actually replaced the grommet and headguard (i.radical MP) and it fit perfect! I will re-string tomorrow night.
I have Gosen Sheep 17g. I normally string 58#'s. You suggest 52 #'s? I will play Friday and let you know.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Gorecki

guys. i need help...

i just purchased 2 pro tours... one 630 and another 690... theyr desperately need new grommets.

the 630 says 18x19 string pattern?
isnt it a 18 x 20?

the 690 is 16x19?

what grommets should fit them? i guess any radical os should fit the 690. but the 630... hum...?

contact vsbabolat. he will know.

I used the TT radical grommets (i.radical MP) on the 280 and they fit perfect, so I will get another for my TT Radical. For some reason I have a LM radical MP grommet...I don't know why I bought it. Anyone know what other racquets it will fit?

[jayserinos99]

Originally Posted by Gorecki

funny... i compared the radical grommets (i have a few) and they fit... but i have no 630 grommets to try...

it says 18x19 in the throat but it has 8 holes in the bridge! so my guess is that its a missprint. could it be?

misprints wouldn't surprise me. i have a trisys260 with string tension at 63 +/- 5! if you could pick up some mg prestige mp grommets, they should work.

[OnyxZ28]

Grommets that TW has that will fit the PT280:

Any Prestige MP CAPS
Any Rad MP grommets, with the caveat that the Ti,i, LM, FP Rad bumpers will hang off a bit because of the thicker beam of the Radicals. The MG for some reason fits flush.

The 18x19 is definitely a misprint -- jayserinos99 and I both have Trisys 260s (same mold as the PT280) that have "16x19" printed as the string pattern. Go figure.

[jayserinos99]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

contact vsbabolat. he will know.

I used the TT radical grommets (i.radical MP) on the 280 and they fit perfect, so I will get another for my TT Radical. For some reason I have a LM radical MP grommet...I don't know why I bought it. Anyone know what other racquets it will fit?

head mp frames typically have the same drill pattern and mold so they should fit. the only concern i'd have is the well where the grommets would fit; if it doesn't fit flush, the grommets may come up short.

[Gorecki]

thanks to everyone who replied to my questions.

what a strange thing and what are the odds you buy 2 different spec frames and both come with missprints. anyway, im looking forward to refurbish them both, and keep the OS...

Azzuri. check your email.

[Pleepers]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

This thread is starting to fail.

I blame hyogen

[Pleepers]

Originally Posted by hyogen

I suggest you go directly to the pro's/racquet companies for advice. heaven forbid that one of us human sub 7.0 players give you any faulty advice and hinder you from reaching your full potential!

Dude, go to the radical thread and stay there. No one cares about all you personal experiences with all the racquets you have played with. For some odd reason you think we enjoy your day-to-day updates--especially on racquets that are NOT the PT630 or especially your cry-baby bs about your injuries. That stuff is for you to tell people in your immediate environment, so they can suffer--not us.

Honestly, I hate to be such a jerk. But you have to realize you are not some racquet expert just because you have played with a couple of racquets. Nor are you any tennis expert just because you play tennis. You need to realize that posting or responding is for benefit of the reader--not because you like to read your own text online. Good luck.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Pleepers

I blame hyogen

yep.....I agree.

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Pleepers

Dude, go to the radical thread and stay there. No one cares about all you personal experiences with all the racquets you have played with. For some odd reason you think we enjoy your day-to-day updates--especially on racquets that are NOT the PT630 or especially your cry-baby bs about your injuries. That stuff is for you to tell people in your immediate environment, so they can suffer--not us.

Honestly, I hate to be such a jerk. But you have to realize you are not some racquet expert just because you have played with a couple of racquets. Nor are you any tennis expert just because you play tennis. You need to realize that posting or responding is for benefit of the reader--not because you like to read your own text online. Good luck.

Could not have said it better myself. It took me a few days to read this thread and Hyogen was a major distraction. This thread is NOT about the Radicals. Great points.

[hyogen]

Originally Posted by Pleepers

Dude, go to the radical thread and stay there. No one cares about all you personal experiences with all the racquets you have played with. For some odd reason you think we enjoy your day-to-day updates--especially on racquets that are NOT the PT630 or especially your cry-baby bs about your injuries. That stuff is for you to tell people in your immediate environment, so they can suffer--not us.

Honestly, I hate to be such a jerk. But you have to realize you are not some racquet expert just because you have played with a couple of racquets. Nor are you any tennis expert just because you play tennis. You need to realize that posting or responding is for benefit of the reader--not because you like to read your own text online. Good luck.

haha, you have me figured out eh? sorry if you don't like my day to day updates and my injury bs. i'm just so cool so I like to read the words that i write! I go around telling people I'm a racquet expert and tennis expert right? at least I post videos of me playing so you can take my advice with the right perspective. Go ahead and command me to stay out of this thread.. Demand TW to ban me from this thread because for now I've settled down on a radical (as of only a month or so). IF you have power tripping issues, I suggest you give orders to those you actually have authority over. So what if I talk about my injuries and experience some on these boards - who are you to say no one ever benefits whatsoever from them?

Azzurri, we are all confident that with your 6 years of playing with the elite TT radical, you will use that experience to go on winning Wimbledon someday. Are you really so pompous that you're not willing to hear someone say that they hit similarly with a tt rad / pt280 very similarly - even when they have the same mold, same string pattern, same shape, same head size, same company? I suggest you go around looking for people who claim they play similarly with two different racquets with less than 4-5 same qualities!

talk about being a crybaby......

[OnyxZ28]

Dude, that's ridiculous. By your logic, the Trisys 260 MP, which is same mold, string pattern, shape, head size, company AND composition, should be damned near identical to the Pro Tour 280. It isn't. Not even close.

[hyogen]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

Dude, that's ridiculous. By your logic, the Trisys 260 MP, which is same mold, string pattern, shape, head size, company AND composition, should be damned near identical to the Pro Tour 280. It isn't. Not even close.

aren't we splitting hairs here? is it unlawful for anyone to say they're similar? my logic? I didn't predict that I would play similarly with the tt radical and the pt280. I predict that I would play similarly with the trisys 260mp too. you can cry bloody murder if I say something like the pure storm plays the same as a prestige

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by OnyxZ28

Dude, that's ridiculous. By your logic, the Trisys 260 MP, which is same mold, string pattern, shape, head size, company AND composition, should be damned near identical to the Pro Tour 280. It isn't. Not even close.

Onyx, its not worth argueing with an illogical person. I noted in another post that after reading an entire 1,000 post thread, it was obvious that Hyogen is clueless about racquets, clueless about the game and certainly clueless about his body. I noted very simply I would no longer converse with him. I think the only way to get this thread back to the PT 280/630 is to ignore him. The Radical TT is a completely different racquet. Its not something I will argue and you made a point that the Trysis 260 was also different, yet he continues. It will never end, ignore him.


Back to what this thread is supposed to be about. I was surprised how easily the i.Radical grommets fit. Did someone mention these are lighter than the original grommets? It looks like I will go with a full Gosen string job at 52#'s. I am also thinking of putting on a leather grip to bring the HL up a point.

Has anyone played a full gut job with the 280?

[Pro_Tour_630]

I leave you boys for few days and you are fighting, tsk tsk, I am the only one that can do the fighting around here, just kidding, back on topic

I tried all gut with the PT and it was powerful, again I did not like it with any gut that was above 1.20mm basically most of them. I did however like it with pacific prime 18g and Bow 18g at low tension, even then they did not last much. 18g natural gut at low tension in mains with 18g cyberflash might do the trick since it will not eat through the mains, anyone

[OnyxZ28]

My fav 630 right now is strung with toughgut 16 mains and cyberflash 17 crosses at what feels like the low 40s/high 30s. I have about 6-7 hours on this setup and the gut is notched about halfway through in the sweetspot, so I imagine it'd be almost through on an 18g gut at that time.

[hyogen]

Originally Posted by Azzurri

Onyx, its not worth argueing with an illogical person. I noted in another post that after reading an entire 1,000 post thread, it was obvious that Hyogen is clueless about racquets, clueless about the game and certainly clueless about his body. I noted very simply I would no longer converse with him. I think the only way to get this thread back to the PT 280/630 is to ignore him. The Radical TT is a completely different racquet. Its not something I will argue and you made a point that the Trysis 260 was also different, yet he continues. It will never end, ignore him.

you sound like you're 12. sorry for trying to explain my reasoning to you, kid.

Azzurri "Onyx, don't talk to him. just ignore him! Let's be great friends you and me okee??"

[hyogen]

why so serious? (heath ledger) why can't we all just get along (rodney king)? I'll record "Can you feel the love tonight" on my youtube channel just for you two, k? yes, by Elton John

Life is short, let's enjoy tennis... meanwhile, you can either put me on your ignore list, then show it off in your signature, or sign a petition to ban me from this thread

Once I get my hands on the pt630 I have a feeling I'm gonna love it just as much if not more than the 280 and tt radical

[Azzurri]

Originally Posted by Pro_Tour_630

I leave you boys for few days and you are fighting, tsk tsk, I am the only one that can do the fighting around here, just kidding, back on topic

I tried all gut with the PT and it was powerful, again I did not like it with any gut that was above 1.20mm basically most of them. I did however like it with pacific prime 18g and Bow 18g at low tension, even then they did not last much. 18g natural gut at low tension in mains with 18g cyberflash might do the trick since it will not eat through the mains, anyone

what about a syn gut like gosen and a cross (multi)? I won't put gut because its not my main stick. I will string tomorrow night. looking forward to hitting with a lower tension. even thinking of going 50 #'s.