*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

[Harry_Randle]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

If it has HEAD Barcode label Inside written on the side of the frame it is Made in Austria finished in Czech Republic.

Also if it has a butt-cap with silver logo stamped on it with the grip size right next to it. Like this:

VS, are these your frames? If so they look really cool, nice gloss to them!

I was wondering if you could answer a question for me? I have four pro tours but they are all different lengths only by a couple of mm but its kind of annoying. When I replaced all the grips and butt caps, the hairpin of the grip was longer and shorter on every racquet, is this just how they are made or have previous owners filed them down? I suppose the only way to make them the same is to replace the pallets and cut them to the same lengths?
Also in the pictures on that link I put up, why is the pro tour 630 printed differently on each?

Thanks, hope you can answer these questions for me, I need a pro tour pro to answer there
Harry.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by Harry_Randle

VS, are these your frames? If so they look really cool, nice gloss to them!

I was wondering if you could answer a question for me? I have four pro tours but they are all different lengths only by a couple of mm but its kind of annoying. When I replaced all the grips and butt caps, the hairpin of the grip was longer and shorter on every racquet, is this just how they are made or have previous owners filed them down? I suppose the only way to make them the same is to replace the pallets and cut them to the same lengths?
Also in the pictures on that link I put up, why is the pro tour 630 printed differently on each?

Thanks, hope you can answer these questions for me, I need a pro tour pro to answer there
Harry.

not my frames. They are pham4313's.
I can't answer on the length.

The Pro Tour 630 looks the same to me.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5231188...n/photostream/

It was stamp with the paint on it that was done by hand.

[Harry_Randle]

Originally Posted by vsbabolat

not my frames. They are pham4313's.
I can't answer on the length.

The Pro Tour 630 looks the same to me.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5231188...n/photostream/

It was stamp with the paint on it that was done by hand.

Ok thanks VS, you are the ultimate knowledge box haha. Yeah when I line them up they are like a couple of mm out, should this make a difference at all? I'm a real perfectionist you see
Also these are the pro tours that never came with capped grommets, is this ok? or will it like make the racquet play in a way its not meant to? They feel great though!

Thanks

[GoodSamaritan]

VS, how does the PC600 and PT280 compare? I know theyre pretty different but I'm interested in a nice comparison if anyone has one

[Harry_Randle]

Hi pro tour users. I have a question regarding the manufacturing of the pro tours. Were there variations in the handle lengths across the productions of the first generation trek font pro tours? its just I have noticed on all of my four, that the hairpin are at different lengths.

Hope someone can help me out

Harry.

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by GoodSamaritan

VS, how does the PC600 and PT280 compare? I know theyre pretty different but I'm interested in a nice comparison if anyone has one

The PT280 has more pop, has a bigger sweet spot, more forgiving on off center hits. But there is a special feel with the PC600 that I find it hard to get away from.

[Harry_Randle]

VS...

I have a friend who produced racquets under the name of Rats Racquets, Real Aggressive Tennis is what it stands for. They copied a Fisher racquet years ago and the feel was identical, proof that they can clone racquets. This may make for interesting reading but I am going to try and get him to copy the pro tour, but I need your help with like specs and info about the manufacturing requirements. obviously we will then have pro tours at out fingers.

let me know what you think.

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by APG

Any input as to playability with and without the full caps?
Appreciate it. I string with full gut so wanted to decide which set up will work best for me.

It's negligible. A few of mine have CAP, a few don't. With the same string, they play very similar. The CAP adjusts the balance a bit, so it is a little more head heavy, but I find that head tape can have the same effect of CAP. So, a little more power the more head heavy you get.

One good way to adjust your balance to more Head Light is to use a Leather grip with overgrip; for me this counters the CAP weight sufficiently. It makes for about a 12.8 ounce stick, but worth it if you have the timing.

[GoodSamaritan]

Just hit with a PT280 (China) for the first time and it felt great. I threw on a Head FC grip and 2 grams of lead on the buttcap. It still had those stock yellow strings just like the picture VS posted above but didn't play too bad after all. I only hit groundstrokes but the stick definitely felt baseline-oriented. I was intending to sell the racquet because I wanted to stick with my PC600 but I might just keep it or even switch to it. I'm an all-courter so I think I'd prefer the Prestige but the lead on the buttcap gives it a bit more maneuverability for better all-court play. Also strung it up with Big Hitter Blue Rough just now. I'll try and hit with this stick more after the rain passes.

[Arvid]

Some months ago a came across a brand new PT 630 that i bought on the bay, i thought it was made in austria, but from reading here i can gather that its probably made in austrian finished in chech republik. It has caps and a barcode on the throat. So my question is what exactly is the differense versus austrian made or chinese exept for the grommets? This racket plays truly amazing!! I have some head TT radicals that i normally play with and at first i thought they played almost the same....sorry about that guys the feel is completely different even if they have similaritys. Its like the PT just grabbes the ball and spits it out, a magical feel. Anyways so if i were to find more i would be interested to know what the differense is?

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by Arvid

Some months ago a came across a brand new PT 630 that i bought on the bay, i thought it was made in austria, but from reading here i can gather that its probably made in austrian finished in chech republik. It has caps and a barcode on the throat. So my question is what exactly is the differense versus austrian made or chinese exept for the grommets? This racket plays truly amazing!! I have some head TT radicals that i normally play with and at first i thought they played almost the same....sorry about that guys the feel is completely different even if they have similaritys. Its like the PT just grabbes the ball and spits it out, a magical feel. Anyways so if i were to find more i would be interested to know what the differense is?

Of my PTs, I have 1 that is like you describe. It is much lighter than the Austrian 280s and Austrian 'trek' 630s I own. The 630 "designed" in austria (finished in czech rep) is my favorite of the 3. It has more flex than the others, and the lighter weight make it more spin friendly than the other models I have.

This is only my experience, I'm sure vsbabolat could enlighten us further as to the how and why of this, but I have weighed and balanced all of mine, and this one is light in comparison. It feels flexier, but this could be due to the weight, or something else?

[APG]

I also recently acquired a 630 designed in Austria racket. I have a 280 made in Austria without caps and it is considerably heavier. I enjoy hitting with it and appears fairly flexible. I have toyed with purchasing other arm friendly frames because of golfers elbow but not sure anything else will necessarily be easier on the elbow. The 630 seems to
Be easier to swing if not on the arm, then my prestiges mp. Perhaps it is my imagination since specs would suggest otherwise.

[JT_2eighty]

Originally Posted by APG

I also recently acquired a 630 designed in Austria racket. I have a 280 made in Austria without caps and it is considerably heavier. I enjoy hitting with it and appears fairly flexible. I have toyed with purchasing other arm friendly frames because of golfers elbow but not sure anything else will necessarily be easier on the elbow. The 630 seems to
Be easier to swing if not on the arm, then my prestiges mp. Perhaps it is my imagination since specs would suggest otherwise.

I don't think it's your imagination. I had a similar experience with mine.

My PT280s (made in Aus) weighed 12.5 and 12.6 oz, strung, gripped, no-CAP, etc. (32.5 cm bal strung)
My PT630 (designed Aus) weighed 12.08 oz, same string & grip, WITH CAP etc. (33.5 cm bal strung)
PT630 (made in Aus-trek font) wt 12.4 oz, no CAP, strung, etc. (strung balance 31.7cm)

Balance point was more head heavy on the 630 (designed aus), but it still played super arm friendly (I also then added .4 oz gram lead to handle, to get to same 32.5 bal as 280s, and it helped with mobility). Even without lead, the 12.08 oz, 33.5cm (2.5 pts HL), setup on the 630-designed in Aus model is a great one. More room to mod than the other iterations, and a different flexy feel that is just butter.

I've demoed loads of newer stuff out there from Head, Volkl, Wilson, Prince... nothing matches the arm saving qualities as the PT630 czech model. Problem is it is my only one, so I am currently saving it for when my arm needs it the most.

[APG]

I am cOncerned as well, since this is my only 630. The 280
Is ofcourse similar but plays different with the added weight and different balance. I need something arm friendly at the moment. It is reassuring that you have demoed other rackets and cannot necessarily improve on the arm friendly nature of 630. I added a Gosen grip system to the handle adding 1.5 ozs and more headlight. The grip systems are no longer available.(sorbathane rap to reduce shock)
Thanks for your input. Thought of demoing prince Tour and Volk, pK blackace etc but will stay with 630.

[JT_2eighty]

From what I hear, PK may come close, and that's one brand I wasn't able to demo. The 280 is also quite arm friendly, just a little heavier overall and can be a bear over the course of a long match compared to the 630-'designed'. Some of the new Volkl Organix or BBecker models also sound good based on reviews, other sticks I haven't tried.

[kybb]

Its the first time for me to string PT630 and after that will be my first hit with that frame.

I have Weiss Cannon Silverstring 1.20 and 1.25 that I want to use.

I usually strung 1.20 to LM Radigal 25/24 (55/23) and 1.25 24/23 (53/50.5).

On Dunlop 200 Light I have Focus-Hex mains and Silverstring 1.25 crosses 24/23.

Yes I can experiment, but would be better to start from closest point to the "truth".

Need setup with what I can hit also flat shots.

1. Should i use the same tension or should i go lower?
2. Should i use the same tension in mains and crosses or keep the tifference 1kg between mains and crosses?

I have played tennis almost for 2 years now, so if i say something that sounds stoped, then dont laugh at me))

[kybb]

Originally Posted by kybb

Its the first time for me to string PT630 and after that will be my first hit with that frame.

I have Weiss Cannon Silverstring 1.20 and 1.25 that I want to use.

I usually strung 1.20 to LM Radigal 25/24 (55/53) and 1.25 24/23 (53/50.5).

On Dunlop 200 Light I have Focus-Hex mains and Silverstring 1.25 crosses 24/23.

Yes I can experiment, but would be better to start from closest point to the "truth".

Need setup with what I can hit also flat shots.

1. Should i use the same tension or should i go lower?
2. Should i use the same tension in mains and crosses or keep the tifference 1kg between mains and crosses?

I have played tennis almost for 2 years now, so if i say something that sounds stoped, then dont laugh at me))

Ok i got no suggestions.

So i tried 1.20 mains 24 (53) and 1.25 crosses 23 (50,5). Quite good control and power combination. Racket feels very-VERY soft: i know you all know that, but to me this was plesant suprise that it is SO soft because my Dunlop have stiffness rating 57 by TW mesurments and feels much stiffer.

I will try on another racket seame strings with 22/21 tension.

Feels like Dunlop 200 light is no longer needed.

[geese_com]

Would anyone mind giving a run down of the different versions of the PT630? I just purchased a PT630, but I can't seem to find where the different versions are referenced. Thanks.

[geese_com]

Originally Posted by geese_com

Would anyone mind giving a run down of the different versions of the PT630? I just purchased a PT630, but I can't seem to find where the different versions are referenced. Thanks.

I guess I should upload some pics so that everyone knows what I'm talking about:



Here are the pics of my Pro Tours (too bad one of them is going to be sold soon):

[geese_com]

Wow, I feel like an idiot. Mine says "Made in Austria" so I'm going to use my super deductive powers and say that this is an Austrian PT630.

Anyways, a run down of the different versions would still be appreciated. Thanks everyone.