Creatin and tennis?

kalic · 12-28-2007, 02:14 AM

Anyone you tennis players ever try creatin? I know that it will increase my overall strenght, but can I loose feeling for the game? I am 31, skinny but good muscule definition...

HoboWithARolex · 12-28-2007, 05:47 AM

creatine wont increase muscle strength alone, it will increase muscle endurance

creatine increase the stores of ATP (what your muscles burn) within your muscles allowing you to squeeze out another rep or two while lifting in effect helping you get stronger

if you use standard creatine monohydrate expect to gain a good amount of water as much as 15lbs so it can slow you down but if your lifting and get stronger espicialy in your legs, when you come off creatine you could be quicker

creatine should be cycled on and off six weeks at a time, going on forever will reduce your bodies own creatine production and the cycling prevents this

LanEvo · 12-28-2007, 09:28 AM

yea uh i wouldnt use creatine for tennis, because creatine is mainly used for weight lifting, so i wouldnt reccomend it for tennis

HyperHorse · 12-28-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LanEvo

yea uh i wouldnt use creatine for tennis, because creatine needs to be burned off by lifting and also if ur just running around and not gaining much muscle the creatine will help u put on some pounds seeing that its all sugar, which can be good for u seeing that u say ur skinny

Would you stop and do some research before you post something stupid/inaccurate again??

HoboWithARolex · 12-28-2007, 06:53 PM

yeah levano creatine is 0% sugar

xtremerunnerars · 12-28-2007, 08:21 PM

If you thought creatine was sugar please go read some medical studies.

I'm pretty sure that there's no way you will gain 15 lbs of water if you take creatine. Of course that's because I'm also assuming you aren't a crazy huge person or extreme body builder. I'm also assuming that it's a safe assumption haha.

Creatine (creatine phosphate) basically just donates its phosphate molecule to the body to help produce ATP. ATP stands for adenosine (adenine being one of the nucleotides in DNA), TP standing for TriPhosphate. ATP is very important as it can be seen as energy currency in the body.

ADP also exists, but it only has two phosphate molecules. When creatine donates its phosphate, the DP becomes TP and the body has to do less work to produce it on its own. I "use" it and I recommend it as long as you do your part and decide if it'll help you by reading up on it. Keep in mind I also work out regularly and pound the cardio pretty hard. It's no miracle supplement by any means but it does help out and there are no real side effects as long as you stay properly hydrated.

You be the judge if it's good for you or not because it's your body. It won't slow you down and I imagine that a ton of athletes are using it because it's not an anabolic steroid and probably not outlawed since it's found in red meat in small amounts...then again they could check levels.

Anyways, do your reading! www.pubmed.com

*edit* Hobo..could you post where you read that? I've never seen anything like that but i'm not outlawing it or anything. I'm by no means an authority on creatine or much of anything for that matter

Rickson · 12-28-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kalic

Anyone you tennis players ever try creatin? I know that it will increase my overall strenght, but can I loose feeling for the game? I am 31, skinny but good muscule definition...

Creatine is not really a tennis player's supplement because tennis requires a lot more running than sudden power movements such as going up to bat like Mark McGwire when he was taking creatine. Creatine works well for weight lifters and sprinters, but for endurance athletes, creatine could have a negative effect because you gain water weight and extra weight will slow you down. To reiterate, creatine is good for short bursts of energy, but don't use it if you're doing it for tennis.

xtremerunnerars · 12-28-2007, 08:53 PM

I would have to disagree Rickson. You might be overestimating creatine here. It's good for recovering/ aiding the recovery of your breath (since heavy breathing is a sign that you're making atp) and getting that one last burst of energy out--things that seem to occur pretty often in tennis. Tennis (to me at least) seems like a whole bunch of interval workouts: 30 seconds of recovery combined with a varying length of sometimes brutal exercise.

I would be interested to see how common it is amongst the pros.

Rickson · 12-28-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xtremerunnerars

I would have to disagree Rickson.

OK, now you know how much I hate that, don't you?

xtremerunnerars · 12-28-2007, 09:10 PM

just had to say it. I'm just reporting one teen's (my own) experiences with the stuff.

Maybe it was different back when you walked uphill both ways in the snow to school with mutton padded sandals while carrying a 500 pound oxen on your back, but this is how it is for me

Rickson · 12-28-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xtremerunnerars

just had to say it. I'm just reporting one teen's (my own) experiences with the stuff.

Maybe it was different back when you walked uphill both ways in the snow to school with mutton padded sandals while carrying a 500 pound oxen on your back, but this is how it is for me

That would be my grandfather's day and besides, I can snatch girls your age away from you teens any day. We older cats are smoothe operators and we actually pay for dinner, unlike you teenagers going dutch and all that. Don't let me meet any girls you like. You'll be sorry, mister.

HoboWithARolex · 12-28-2007, 09:24 PM

10-15lbs is just my personal experience, i usualy use about 10g a day

HoboWithARolex · 12-28-2007, 09:25 PM

thats why i said as much as 15lbs, im also reasonably big and muscular

ps, how do u edit posts?

Rickson · 12-28-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HoboWithARolex

how do u edit posts?

You need to get some posts under your belt before you can do that. Would you like to have some of mine?

xtremerunnerars · 12-28-2007, 09:31 PM

I don't hang out with guys like that Rickson. If that's another stereotype, I take pride (again) in not adding to it!

*edit* ps: take rickson's posts...he has too many! KEEPS AWAYS FROM MY POSTSSSSSSSSSSSSSESESSSSSSSSSS lol

superman1 · 12-28-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HoboWithARolex

10-15lbs is just my personal experience, i usualy use about 10g a day

Well, that's why. You're only supposed to use 3-5 grams a day.

chess9 · 12-29-2007, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by superman1

Well, that's why. You're only supposed to use 3-5 grams a day.

I agree with this, but some guys are taking 10-20 grams per day. Putting on 15 lbs in under 3 to 6 monthis is tough to do unless you are already a huge guy, IMHO.

-Robert

0range · 12-29-2007, 01:20 PM

Well from my personal experience taking Creatine/carb shake (about 6g of creatine and 40g carb) just before tennis really increased my performance... at a pretty noticeable level. Could be the carb tho.

Edberg_Fan · 03-03-2008, 08:25 PM

You guys on Creatine notice better muscle recovery after playing tennis. My arms sometimes feel sore the next day and think that Creatine can help with better recovery...? Thoughts???

vince916 · 03-03-2008, 09:07 PM

I take Gaspari Size-On which is a creatine mix along with whey protein. I take for lifting though and not for tennis.

12-28-2007, 02:14 AM	#1
kalic Semi-Pro Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Clay, behind the baseline Posts: 754	Creatin and tennis? Anyone you tennis players ever try creatin? I know that it will increase my overall strenght, but can I loose feeling for the game? I am 31, skinny but good muscule definition...

12-28-2007, 09:28 AM	#3
LanEvo Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chandler, AZ / Stockton, CA / UCD Posts: 2,580	yea uh i wouldnt use creatine for tennis, because creatine is mainly used for weight lifting, so i wouldnt reccomend it for tennis Last edited by LanEvo : 12-28-2007 at 04:51 PM.

12-28-2007, 08:21 PM	#6
xtremerunnerars Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Right behind you, but i'll be gone before you finish reading this Posts: 1,640	If you thought creatine was sugar please go read some medical studies. I'm pretty sure that there's no way you will gain 15 lbs of water if you take creatine. Of course that's because I'm also assuming you aren't a crazy huge person or extreme body builder. I'm also assuming that it's a safe assumption haha. Creatine (creatine phosphate) basically just donates its phosphate molecule to the body to help produce ATP. ATP stands for adenosine (adenine being one of the nucleotides in DNA), TP standing for TriPhosphate. ATP is very important as it can be seen as energy currency in the body. ADP also exists, but it only has two phosphate molecules. When creatine donates its phosphate, the DP becomes TP and the body has to do less work to produce it on its own. I "use" it and I recommend it as long as you do your part and decide if it'll help you by reading up on it. Keep in mind I also work out regularly and pound the cardio pretty hard. It's no miracle supplement by any means but it does help out and there are no real side effects as long as you stay properly hydrated. You be the judge if it's good for you or not because it's your body. It won't slow you down and I imagine that a ton of athletes are using it because it's not an anabolic steroid and probably not outlawed since it's found in red meat in small amounts...then again they could check levels. Anyways, do your reading! www.pubmed.com edit Hobo..could you post where you read that? I've never seen anything like that but i'm not outlawing it or anything. I'm by no means an authority on creatine or much of anything for that matter __________________ I can has signatur? Last edited by xtremerunnerars : 12-28-2007 at 08:24 PM.

12-28-2007, 08:53 PM	#8
xtremerunnerars Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Right behind you, but i'll be gone before you finish reading this Posts: 1,640	I would have to disagree Rickson. You might be overestimating creatine here. It's good for recovering/ aiding the recovery of your breath (since heavy breathing is a sign that you're making atp) and getting that one last burst of energy out--things that seem to occur pretty often in tennis. Tennis (to me at least) seems like a whole bunch of interval workouts: 30 seconds of recovery combined with a varying length of sometimes brutal exercise. I would be interested to see how common it is amongst the pros. __________________ I can has signatur?

12-28-2007, 09:10 PM	#10
xtremerunnerars Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Right behind you, but i'll be gone before you finish reading this Posts: 1,640	just had to say it. I'm just reporting one teen's (my own) experiences with the stuff. Maybe it was different back when you walked uphill both ways in the snow to school with mutton padded sandals while carrying a 500 pound oxen on your back, but this is how it is for me __________________ I can has signatur?