Sampras working with Wilson on new players racquet... - Page 2

nn · 03-20-2008, 10:34 AM

"You need to be a serious player to play that racket. I'm not going to say anything more than that."

that statement says something is cooking...looks like he is coming back..otherwise no meaning to play many expo one is coming with david nab...

shwetty[tennis]balls · 03-20-2008, 10:45 AM

Yeah, I doubt that he'll be coming back. Wilson is just banking on the fact that Pete sold the pro staff 85 to heights unimagined during his career, and in fact continues to do so, even though production stopped some time ago. Pete has launched arguably the most popular racquet the world has ever seen. Since it's no longer in production, why not produce a new racquet "sponsered" or endorsed by the same guy that brought us THE pro staff. The specs from the pro staff Pete used aren't very popular in today's tour so why not "update" it, stamp it w/ Pete's approval and PRESTO: Hundreds of millions of dollars in potential revenue over the next 10 years. It's actually a very astute marketing move made by our friends at Wilson, at the very least they're keeping us, the average tennis player, interested in Wilson, and potentially gaining money at the same time. I know that all of those who had been using the pro staff for so long and are now moving on to "friendlier" racquets will definately check these out. I'm still a pro staff user and will be for some time, but I know I'm going to demo it when it comes out. I know several that have moved on to other sticks with a sense of longing for the same response they had on their PS 85. This section of the market will be cleaned up by this latest marketing ploy. Genius!

stormholloway · 03-20-2008, 10:51 AM

Agree with above.

But there was already a thread about this. I just want a 90 inch, slightly stiffer version of the PS85. No flashy red paint jobs. In fact, make it white with gold accents ala the Kramer and I'm sold. I'll buy 10 of them.

In my dreams.

VGP · 03-20-2008, 11:11 AM

Sampras doesn't need to come back for Wilson to sell frames.

He's said repeatedly that he's not coming back to the tour.

Like I said in the other thread, look at what Dunlop did for McEnroe with the Maxply McEnroe.

Selling products works extremely well for senior golf. Why then not for senior tennis.

sunflowerhx · 03-20-2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRProstaf9

According to the below article Pete Sampras, it seems, has a new racquet in the works with Wilson...

http://www.amny.com/sports/am-tennis...,4895406.story

This is a **** and bull story.
There is no way Wilson is working on a new racket with Sampras.

1. Sampras was never a commercial asset like Agassi/Federer in his hay day, much less now.

2. The market for another demanding frame like the K90 is very small.

The only reason the frame is painted black is cash. Wilson probably was willing to supply but not pay Sampras to use their rackets. Why would they, when they have with Federer.

That article is just Wilson spinning some story to save face.

sureshs · 03-20-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunflowerhx

This is a **** and bull story.
There is no way Wilson is working on a new racket with Sampras.

1. Sampras was never a commercial asset like Agassi/Federer in his hay day, much less now.

2. The market for another demanding frame like the K90 is very small.

The only reason the frame is painted black is cash. Wilson probably was willing to supply but not pay Sampras to use their rackets. Why would they, when they have with Federer.

That article is just Wilson spinning some story to save face.

Then why did he stencil his racquet?

jorel · 03-20-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunflowerhx

This is a **** and bull story.
There is no way Wilson is working on a new racket with Sampras.

1. Sampras was never a commercial asset like Agassi/Federer in his hay day, much less now.

2. The market for another demanding frame like the K90 is very small.

The only reason the frame is painted black is cash. Wilson probably was willing to supply but not pay Sampras to use their rackets. Why would they, when they have with Federer.

That article is just Wilson spinning some story to save face.

if ur joking,,, then its funny

if ur not.... then ?????????????????

VGP · 03-20-2008, 12:05 PM

Sampras might not have been an "asset" like Agassi, but not because it wasn't possible.

If anything, the power of Sampras' marketability in selling rackets is still demonstrated today in the demand for the PS85, albeit a niche market.

The "market" for a demanding frame like the k90 isn't fueled by people that could play best with the racket, it's fueled by people that want the "Federer" racket, or possibly the upcoming "Sampras" racket.

If Wilson didn't want to make a new racket, then they very well could have just let Sampras use whatever he was using last year. Why black out an obviously new design and not just black out what he was using last year and leave it at that?

If it happens, it happens, if not, then not.

I'd prefer it to happen because frames like the PS85 don't come around that often. I'm hoping that a possible new one will.

I was never sold on the Tour90, n90, or k90. Cosmetics and feel wise. I suppose I could force myself, but I decided to get a few PS85s instead.

quest01 · 03-20-2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn

"You need to be a serious player to play that racket. I'm not going to say anything more than that."

that statement says something is cooking...looks like he is coming back..otherwise no meaning to play many expo one is coming with david nab...

I'm sure the racket Sampras is working with Wilson on will be a good racket in the hands of the right people but it's not for me. It's a little too demanding for me. I prefer to use a racket I play better with.

drakulie · 03-20-2008, 01:25 PM

^^The frame hasn't even come close to coming out. No one has any idea what the specs will be or if Wilson will actually end up producing this frame. It could be a 8 ounce 110 sq inch frame, or 12 ounce 90 square inch frame. Yet, you are alreay submitting you are not good enough to play with it??? You must be a horrible player.

keithchircop · 03-20-2008, 01:30 PM

I guess it will be a limited edition racquet with a small head that weighs a ton: Sampras' real racquet.

Azzurri · 03-20-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunflowerhx

This is a **** and bull story.
There is no way Wilson is working on a new racket with Sampras.

1. Sampras was never a commercial asset like Agassi/Federer in his hay day, much less now.

2. The market for another demanding frame like the K90 is very small.

The only reason the frame is painted black is cash. Wilson probably was willing to supply but not pay Sampras to use their rackets. Why would they, when they have with Federer.

That article is just Wilson spinning some story to save face.

No doubt you are either new to tennis or were born in the 90's. Your specualtion is way, way off.

quest01 · 03-20-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^The frame hasn't even come close to coming out. No one has any idea what the specs will be or if Wilson will actually end up producing this frame. It could be a 8 ounce 110 sq inch frame, or 12 ounce 90 square inch frame. Yet, you are alreay submitting you are not good enough to play with it??? You must be a horrible player.

If Sampras is helping Wilson come out with a new players racket its not going to be a 8 ounce, 110 square inch racket Pete. Its going to be a racket similar to what Sampras was using in the exo against Federer. If its similar to the K90 then it's not for me Pete.

drakulie · 03-20-2008, 02:43 PM

^^^The key word is **IF**.

Janne · 03-20-2008, 02:50 PM

I really hope it's the PS 6.0 90, if only to put an end to all speculations and whoop around it.

quest01 · 03-20-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^^The key word is **IF**.

First off I'm far from being a horrible player. Just because I don't play as well with mid size rackets doesn't make me a horrible player. I'd probably smoke you on the court so bad you would be on your hands and knees begging for mercy.

drakulie · 03-20-2008, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quest01

First off I'm far from being a horrible player. Just because I don't play as well with mid size rackets doesn't make me a horrible player.

what does frame size have to do with how good of a player you are???

Azzurri · 03-20-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quest01

First off I'm far from being a horrible player. Just because I don't play as well with mid size rackets doesn't make me a horrible player. I'd probably smoke you on the court so bad you would be on your hands and knees begging for mercy.

dude, you might as well challenge Drakulie to a fight, a 40 yard dash, a car race...either way saying you would beat him (excuse me, smoke him) is pretty immature, we are on a forum!! Either way I'm sure Drakulie had a nice chuckle.

Mansewerz · 03-20-2008, 06:17 PM

I'm pretty sure legends like Agassi, Sampras, etc. will have lifetime contracts and it's not a surprise that this new racquet is coming out. Hell, Head is still marketing every radical to be the one Agassi uses.

BounceHitBounceHit · 03-20-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisfan_23

I HIGHLY doubt Pete is coming back to the tour. Sorry.

Wouldn't it be fun if he did.............but I doubt it.

CC

03-20-2008, 10:45 AM	#22
shwetty[tennis]balls Rookie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 326	Yeah, I doubt that he'll be coming back. Wilson is just banking on the fact that Pete sold the pro staff 85 to heights unimagined during his career, and in fact continues to do so, even though production stopped some time ago. Pete has launched arguably the most popular racquet the world has ever seen. Since it's no longer in production, why not produce a new racquet "sponsered" or endorsed by the same guy that brought us THE pro staff. The specs from the pro staff Pete used aren't very popular in today's tour so why not "update" it, stamp it w/ Pete's approval and PRESTO: Hundreds of millions of dollars in potential revenue over the next 10 years. It's actually a very astute marketing move made by our friends at Wilson, at the very least they're keeping us, the average tennis player, interested in Wilson, and potentially gaining money at the same time. I know that all of those who had been using the pro staff for so long and are now moving on to "friendlier" racquets will definately check these out. I'm still a pro staff user and will be for some time, but I know I'm going to demo it when it comes out. I know several that have moved on to other sticks with a sense of longing for the same response they had on their PS 85. This section of the market will be cleaned up by this latest marketing ploy. Genius! __________________ I'm the forty year old spartan Last edited by shwetty[tennis]balls : 03-28-2008 at 02:02 PM.

03-20-2008, 11:11 AM	#24
VGP Legend Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 6,309	Sampras doesn't need to come back for Wilson to sell frames. He's said repeatedly that he's not coming back to the tour. Like I said in the other thread, look at what Dunlop did for McEnroe with the Maxply McEnroe. Selling products works extremely well for senior golf. Why then not for senior tennis. __________________ "The secret is to find your motivation every single time - your inner motivation - so I always want to improve myself..." - EV

03-20-2008, 12:05 PM	#28
VGP Legend Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 6,309	Sampras might not have been an "asset" like Agassi, but not because it wasn't possible. If anything, the power of Sampras' marketability in selling rackets is still demonstrated today in the demand for the PS85, albeit a niche market. The "market" for a demanding frame like the k90 isn't fueled by people that could play best with the racket, it's fueled by people that want the "Federer" racket, or possibly the upcoming "Sampras" racket. If Wilson didn't want to make a new racket, then they very well could have just let Sampras use whatever he was using last year. Why black out an obviously new design and not just black out what he was using last year and leave it at that? If it happens, it happens, if not, then not. I'd prefer it to happen because frames like the PS85 don't come around that often. I'm hoping that a possible new one will. I was never sold on the Tour90, n90, or k90. Cosmetics and feel wise. I suppose I could force myself, but I decided to get a few PS85s instead. __________________ "The secret is to find your motivation every single time - your inner motivation - so I always want to improve myself..." - EV

03-20-2008, 01:25 PM	#30
drakulie Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: May 2004 Location: FT. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 23,906	^^The frame hasn't even come close to coming out. No one has any idea what the specs will be or if Wilson will actually end up producing this frame. It could be a 8 ounce 110 sq inch frame, or 12 ounce 90 square inch frame. Yet, you are alreay submitting you are not good enough to play with it??? You must be a horrible player. __________________ Head Stringer @ the LTC, Babolat Star 4 Stringer http://www.youtube.com/user/drakulie

03-20-2008, 01:30 PM	#31
keithchircop Professional Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Malta, Europe Posts: 1,332	I guess it will be a limited edition racquet with a small head that weighs a ton: Sampras' real racquet. __________________ SWF, 2HBH - Head Microgel Radical OS (11.2oz, 312 SW)