The Fischer Faction!

[loubapache]

Originally Posted by Hotrocks

Shipping was not included, around what you paid. I am about to reveive a MSPeed Pro, the Red & Green colored racquet...is that the one you prefer? Where do you reside? Happy hitting......

Yes, that is the one, HR. You will like it.

On mine, I put lead tape just to cover the silver part that surrounds the "+" at 3 and 9 o'clock. That stiffens up the hoop a bit so it is more stable and the slice is also more penetrating. About 4.5 g total. You won't be able to tell the lead tape because the racket was that color already there.

I am in Western Michigan. Only indoors this time of the year. Today's high is 16 deg F but we keep playing tennis.

About the bag. Even with that shipping, it is still a very good deal. The part I like the best about it is that it is a lean 6-pack. You can put 6 rackets in thee but the bag is narrower than most other 6-packs.

[athiker]

Originally Posted by loubapache

According to TW, the swing weight of Magnetic Tour SL is only 305 kg-cm^2.

A competitor of TW listed the SL as 299 kg-cm^2. USRSA also lists the SL as 305 kg-cm^2.

Head Size: 100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 11.7oz / 332g
Balance: 10pts Head Light
Swingweight: 305
Stiffness: 57
Beam Width: 22 mm Straight Beam

My BG Tour is essentially the same as Magnetic tour so my very first impression was too light in swing weight and more HL (than No 1).

Another place to check SW: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...racquetA=FMTSL

It lists Fischer Magnetic Tour ++ (heavy) as: 294!

It lists the Fischer M Pro Number One 98 SL as 311.

I traded a Black Granite Tour for a Magnetic Tour ++ (320g stamped weight) recently. I never measured either but think the Magnetic Tour might swing a touch lighter and I felt I got some more spin. I would be shocked if the SW was 294 though. The person I traded with felt they played very similar in weight, balance and swingweight but the Granite felt a bit firmer. I've never had a chance to try the Pro One 98.

[NicoMK]

Originally Posted by loubapache

On mine, I put lead tape just to cover the silver part that surrounds the "+" at 3 and 9 o'clock. That stiffens up the hoop a bit so it is more stable and the slice is also more penetrating. About 4.5 g total.

Thanks for the tip loubapache. Some said this frame isn't very stable off the sweetspot. Can you or someone confirm? I've not noticed yet but only hit a few times with it so far, and the strings were completely loosen-up, so that was hard to tell. Need to restring.

Hope my arm will get a bit better than with the BG Pro N1, the only reason why I should switch.

@ athiker, thanks for the link above

Cheers all!

[loubapache]

Originally Posted by athiker

Another place to check SW: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/lear...racquetA=FMTSL

It lists Fischer Magnetic Tour ++ (heavy) as: 294!

It lists the Fischer M Pro Number One 98 SL as 311.

I traded a Black Granite Tour for a Magnetic Tour ++ (320g stamped weight) recently. I never measured either but think the Magnetic Tour might swing a touch lighter and I felt I got some more spin. I would be shocked if the SW was 294 though. The person I traded with felt they played very similar in weight, balance and swingweight but the Granite felt a bit firmer. I've never had a chance to try the Pro One 98.

Hi, athiker:

These spec numbers are all over the place, aren't they?

If you go to the twu power zone comparison and locate PK 5G. What they have is weight: 312 g and SW: 302. That is absolutely not possible. These are more like unstrung specs but the TWU numbers did not have any footnote or else. I think we need to take all these posted specs with caution.

That said, I believe the 294 and 311 SW numbers are both low for the Magnetic Speed Tour SL and MPro No 1 SL. The difference of 17 units of SW sounds about right for the two from my experience. Both my BG Tour SL are 343 g, 9.5 pts HL, and SW 308. Both are stock except with over grip. I think that is about right.

The SW of Pro No 1 SL should be in the 315 - 325 range.

[loubapache]

Originally Posted by NicoMK

Thanks for the tip loubapache. Some said this frame isn't very stable off the sweetspot. Can you or someone confirm? I've not noticed yet but only hit a few times with it so far, and the strings were completely loosen-up, so that was hard to tell. Need to restring.

Hi, NicoMK:

I think everything will be relative. Personally for me, I was using the Dunlop MaxPly McEnroe and that is a very stable but stiff frame. I added weight to the handle so they were 340 g, 5.5 pts HL and with a SW of around 330.

I got into shoulder problem using that frame with poly strings so that was why I got interested in the Fischer frames. (I was already using PK 5G at the time but the upper hoop is just too dead even with added lead at 2-10 oclocks. Overall the 5G is still a good frame but could have been better if the upper hoop is more lively.)

When I first got the MSpeed Pro No 1, my first impression was that the upper hoop was too flexible so it was not as stable as the McEnroe and did not have much power outside the sweat zone, which is small for a 98 in^2 frame. So I dded 4.5 g to the 3-9 o'clock right away and the second time out was much better. This also increased the SW a bit to my liking. I have been using it for more than three years now. String low (no higher than 55 lb) with a soft string is also kind of important for it to have a decent size sweat zone and power.

If comfort is your main concern and you want to stay within the Fischer family, try play test the Pro No 1 105. It is a very comfortable frame with enough control, lots more spin, and much larger sweat zone. Then it does look more round than the 98 version so it is "a la Pure Drive".

[loubapache]

Hope no reader of this thread is bidding on a MSpeed Pro No 1 on the auction site that closes in about an hour. That is a junior racket but the seller did not say it clearly and the picture looks like a normal Pro No 1. However, the details are there.

[Hotrocks]

Originally Posted by loubapache

Hey, Fischer lovers, this thread needs a little bump.


Here are all the Fischer rackets I have (just took a picture today).

Interested in getting rid of one of your Black granite Tours? I purchased one awhile ago...gave it to a friend. After I hit with it a few weeks later(trading racquets) it felt better the second time around. Email me @ Hotrocksdd@msn.com I send a few photos of my in house racquet store.

[loubapache]

Sent you an email, Hotrocks.

[ahuimanu]

Hello,

Are you interested in parting with your 105's? Ahuimanu: Huiio@hotmail.com

Originally Posted by Hotrocks

Interested in getting rid of one of your Black granite Tours? I purchased one awhile ago...gave it to a friend. After I hit with it a few weeks later(trading racquets) it felt better the second time around. Email me @ Hotrocksdd@msn.com I send a few photos of my in house racquet store.

[loubapache]

Originally Posted by ahuimanu

Hello,

Are you interested in parting with your 105's? Ahuimanu: Huiio@hotmail.com

If you mean the pair of green/yellow no tolerance ones. These two are brand new with plastic on handle and strung with Volkl Power Fiber (nice multi). They are 4-1/2 grip and UL (there is no SL version of this in the No Tolerance lineup). They never touch a ball.

I bought them thinking I would use them later since I also have a pair of the red/green one (also in picture). They have the newer (Wilson type) butt caps but I liked the old ones better. I am not trying to make any money but these are new rackets. Email me via my profile if you are still interested.



Thanks for asking.

[Hotrocks]

Originally Posted by loubapache

Sent you an email, Hotrocks.

Got it...Thanks! Was the Red/Green #1 the last frame made in Austria?

[loubapache]

Originally Posted by Hotrocks

Got it...Thanks! Was the Red/Green #1 the last frame made in Austria?

Most of them have the "Austria" letters on the racket. If you take a look at the picture of the rackets I posted, there are five (5) red/green ones. The forth one from the top does not have "Austria" on it. You can also see that has different graphics (I lines up the same sides on all these rackets and the forth one is different.) This is the one I acquired (new) last in a closed out deal from an online retailer. This is probably the last batch.

The other four all have "Austria" on them. Not "Made in Austria", just "Austria".

The yellow/green ones do not have "Austria" on them.

[loubapache]

Here are some more photos (posted by another member) of the different graphics of the MSpeed Pro No 1 98 SL.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showp...&postcount=301

[NicoMK]

Hi all

Interesting posts but did I miss something? Were some red/green Pro N1 made in Austria ?? I noticed Fischer racquets had 'Fischer Austria' written on the frame but I never noticed 'Made in Austria'. Closer pics maybe ?

Thanks

And great posts, as always

[loubapache]

You are right, NicoMK. It does not say "Made in Austria".

Some red/green have "Fischer" and "Austria" (two lines) but some others do not have "Austria" (just "Fischer").

The ones after the red/green also do not have "Austria".

So we can speculate the "Austria" part.
Made in Austria?
Designed in Austria?
Fischer, a Company in Austria?
Fischer, a Parent Company of Fischer China, which is based in Austria?

LOL

[TheRed]

Originally Posted by NicoMK

Hi all

Interesting posts but did I miss something? Were some red/green Pro N1 made in Austria ?? I noticed Fischer racquets had 'Fischer Austria' written on the frame but I never noticed 'Made in Austria'. Closer pics maybe ?

Thanks

And great posts, as always

Fischer Pro 1's have been made in China for a long time already. At least since 2001. I was once sponsored by them and my racquets were already made in China. Perfect racquets though

[NicoMK]

Originally Posted by loubapache

So we can speculate the "Austria" part.
Made in Austria?
Designed in Austria?
Fischer, a Company in Austria?
Fischer, a Parent Company of Fischer China, which is based in Austria?

LOL

The last one is a good one!

I for myself would say 'Fischer, a company of Austria'… My first Pro Classic 98 was bought in 1998 and it was already written 'Fischer Austria' on it. It would be interesting to have a frame made around 1996-97 and see what's written on it.

Anyway, as TheRed said, great racquets though, amazing QC etc. But we all know that, don't we?

[vsbabolat]

Originally Posted by loubapache

You are right, NicoMK. It does not say "Made in Austria".

Some red/green have "Fischer" and "Austria" (two lines) but some others do not have "Austria" (just "Fischer").

The ones after the red/green also do not have "Austria".

So we can speculate the "Austria" part.
Made in Austria?
Designed in Austria?
Fischer, a Company in Austria?
Fischer, a Parent Company of Fischer China, which is based in Austria?

LOL

When Fischer made tennis racquets in Austria on the side of the racquets were written "Made In Austria". When production for tennis racquets were outsourced to China "Fischer Austria" was written on the side of the frames. Fischer is a Austrian company located in Ried im Innkreis, Austria.

[loubapache]

Thanks VS.

Yes, some of my Fischer rackets have "Fischer Austria" but some only have "Fischer".

[loubapache]

This "Made in Austria" vs "Fischer Austria" vs "Fischer" is interesting stuff.

Here is a Fischer Vacuum Pro Classic Mid 90. I do not have this racket, just some images from the auction site. You can see "Fischer Austria" (two lines in the second picture) on the side and top of the grip.