• Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Blog
  • Blogs
  • FAQ

Go Back   Talk Tennis > Miscellaneous > Health & Fitness
Reload this Page Tennis Elbow Guide
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-16-2008, 01:58 PM   #1
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Cool Tennis Elbow Guide

Tennis Elbow


Tennis elbow is a condition where the outer part of the elbow becomes painful and tender.

The condition is also know as lateral epicondylitis, lateral epicondylosis, or simply lateral elbow pain.

According to the best available scientific evidence, tennis elbow is an idiopathic, self-limiting, enthesopathy of middle age.

Symptoms:

* Pain on the outer part of elbow (lateral epicondyle).
* Point tenderness over the lateral epicondyle--a prominent part of the bone on the outside of the elbow.
* Gripping and movements of the wrist hurt, especially wrist extension and lifting movements.
* Activities that uses the muscles that extend the wrist (e.g. pouring a pitcher or gallon of milk, lifting with the palm down)are characteristically painful.
* Morning stiffness is common.

" Medical Treatment":

Non-specific palliative treatments include:

* Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs): ibuprofen, naproxen or aspirin
* A counter-force brace or "tennis elbow strap".
* Heat or ice


Specific treatments with limited scientific support include:

* Local injection of cortisone and a numbing medicine
* Using a splint to keep the forearm and elbow still for 2 to 3 weeks
* Heat therapy
* Physical therapy
* Occupational therapy. Primarily for stretching and strengthening of the wrist extensor musculature.
* Pulsed ultrasound to break up scar tissue, promote healing, and increase blood flow in the area
* Extra-corporeal shock wave therapy. (lithotriptor)
* Botulinum Toxin
* Blood injection
* Sclerotherapy
* Acupuncture- very good method...different people have many different opinions on this

The Equipment keep this equipment for now!!)

1. Make sure that your racket for now is a heavy weight one, but not something you cant handle preferably something with less stress to arm (head light rackets)

2. The racket head size would be good 98-whatever.

3. Strings: Go to tennis-warehouse.com..then click String Finder!
Then click the button soft(arm friendly)
Some include: From Expensive to low-
Natural Gut (babolat,Wilson)
Multis-NXT,Babolat xcel
synthetic gut-gosen og micro, gamma
My opinion-Babolat Super Fine Play


There you will find a wide variety of strings that you can choose from
I technically prefer at the middle of the healing process you use babolat super fine play

NEVER USE POLY NEVER USE POLY WITH TENNIS ELBOW make this a promise or your recovery is no more


4. Buy dumbells and use them:

1-5 pounds for 10-14years of age
5-10 for 14-99

Activites that can be done with dumbells:
PHASE 1
Goals: decrease inflammation and pain, promote tissue healing, and retard muscle atrophy. During the acute stage of your injury, whether the medial or lateral elbow is affected, follow the RICE principle:

* Rest - this means avoiding further overuse not absence of activity. You should maintain as high an activity level as possible while avoiding activities that aggravate the injury. Absolute rest should be avoided as it encourages muscle atrophy, deconditions tissue, and decreases blood supply to the area, all of which is detrimental to the healing process. Pain is the best guide to determine the appropriate type and level of activity.
* Ice - is recommended as long as inflammation is present. This may mean throughout the entire rehabilitation process and return to sports. Ice decreases the inflammatory process slows local metabolism and helps relieve pain and muscle spasm.
* Compress and Elevate if appropriate to assist venous return and minimize swelling.

PHASE 2
Goals: Improve flexibility, increase strength and endurance, increase functional activities and return to function.

[Stretch Image] Stretching
Gentle stretching exercises including wrist flexion, extension and rotation. The elbow should be extended and not flexed to increase the amount of stretch as required. These stretches should be held for 20-30 seconds and repeated 5-10 times, at least twice a day. Vigorous stretching should be avoided - do not stretch to the point of pain that reproduces your symptoms.

Strengthening
With the elbow bent and the wrist supported perform the following exercises:

1. Wrist Extension. Place 1 lb. weight in hand with palm facing downward (pronated); support forearm at the edge of a table or on your knee so that only your hand can move. Raise wrist/hand up slowly (concentric contraction), and lower slowly (eccentric contraction).

[Extension Image 1] [Extension Image 2]

2. Wrist Flexion. Place 1 lb. weight in hand with palm facing upward (supinated); support forearm at the edge of a table or on your knee so that only your hand can move. Bend wrist up slowly (concentric), and then lower slowly (eccentric)(similar to exercise above).
3. Combined Flexion/Extension. Attach one end of a string to a cut broom stick or similar device, attach the other end to a weight. In standing, extend your arms and elbows straight out in front of you. Roll the weight up from the ground by turning the wrists. Flexors are worked with the palms facing upward. Extensors are worked with the palms facing downward.
4. Forearm Pronation/Supination. Grasp hammer (wrench, or some similar device) in hand with forearm supported. Rotate hand to palm down position, return to start position (hammer perpendicular to floor), rotate to palm up position, repeat. To increase or decrease resistance, by move hand farther away or closer towards the head of the hammer.

[Pronation Image 1] [Pronation Image 2] [Pronation Image 3] [Finger Ext Image]
5. Finger Extension. Place a rubber band around all five finger tips. Spread fingers 25 times, repeat 3 times. If resistance is not enough, add a second rubber band or use a rubber band of greater thickness which will provide more resistance.
[Ball Squeeze Image]
6. Ball Squeeze. Place rubber ball or tennis ball in palm of hand, squeeze 25 times, repeat 3 times. If pain is reproduced squeeze a folded sponge or piece of foam.

For all of the exercises (except combined flexion\extension) perform 10 repetitions 3-5 times a day. With the combined flexion/extension perform until you feel fatigue. With all exercises use pain as your guide - all exercises should be pain free.

When to progress. Begin with a 1 lb. weight and perform 3 sets of 10 repetitions. When this becomes easy, work up to 15 repetitions. Increase the weight only when you can complete 15 repetitions 3 times without difficulty. The axiom "No Pain No Gain" does NOT apply here.
After exercising, massage across the area of tenderness with an ice cube for about 5 minutes. You might also try filling a paper cup half-full with water and freeze; peel back a portion of the paper cup to expose the ice.

PHASE 3
Goals: Improve muscular strength and endurance, maintain and improve flexibility, and gradually return to prior level of sport or high level activity.

Continue the stretching and strengthening exercises emphasizing the eccentric contractions of wrist flexion and extension. In this regard, since the eccentric contractions are movements with gravity, do not let the weight drop too quickly; lower the weight in a controlled fashion. With the combined wrist flexion/extension exercise, work on increasing speed when rolling up the string with the attached weight as this will improve endurance.

When your symptoms are resolved and have regained full range of motion and strength, you may gradually increase your level of playing activity. An example of one gradual progressive return to tennis is as follows:

Lateral Epicondylitis Medial Epicondylitis
15 minutes forehand only 15 minutes backhand and lobs
30 minutes forehand only 30 minutes backhand and lobs
30 minutes forehand and two handed backhand 30 minutes backhand, lobs, forehand (no top spin)
45 minutes forehand and backhand 45 minutes backhand, lobs, forehand
45 minutes all strokes 45 minutes all stokes
Serve Serve
Full play Full play
Competitive play Competitive play

5. Buy icy hot or theragesic ( note: this will give temporary relief)

6. Arm strap (gelled)

7.ICe pack
Process:

1. Rest 1-3 days

2. Dumbbells 15 minutes 2 times a day 1-2 weeks and until elbow recovers

3. wear arm strap while you can always 1-2 weeks after elbow recovers

4. DO nice soft rally baseline with racket* no serve hard hits..1 week

5. Play and increase power and etc gradually no more play than 1 hour first month and 2 hours 2nd etc etc etc.

6. Please don't push...1% push can lead you back to 100% pain

7.Seek a physician at extremes. ( which shouldn't happen if you follow)

Do all these and you'll be relaxed..but maintaining a good timing and schedule is important after little bit of recovery don't play 6 hours it'll be back!!


Well comments would be nice and more things that I can add.











Chris Thanks to many people and sources
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62

Last edited by roger is the king : 04-21-2008 at 11:42 AM. Reason: add
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 01:59 PM   #2
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

completed and will be appreciated if people would give tips that i can add.

MODS PLZ DONT DELETE I WANT TO HELP PPL
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62

Last edited by roger is the king : 04-16-2008 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Change
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 01:59 PM   #3
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

~~ Reserved For info ~~
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 02:00 PM   #4
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

~~ Reserved ~~ for info and adding to guide
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 02:45 PM   #5
bronco_mba
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 358
Default

MODS: sticky this one fast!
__________________
3x Yonex RDS001 MP
Alpha Revo 4000
bronco_mba is offline   Reply With Quote
bronco_mba
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by bronco_mba
Old 04-16-2008, 02:50 PM   #6
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

ya mods plz hey bronco im gonna be adding more i thought this would help ppl
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 05:38 PM   #7
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

bronco alpha revo's own
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-16-2008, 06:38 PM   #8
BORISK
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 104
Default

"1. Make sure that your racket for now is a light weight one preferably Less than 10 oz"
Are you serious ? Less then 10? I would say at least 12 !!!
BORISK is offline   Reply With Quote
BORISK
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by BORISK
Old 04-16-2008, 08:23 PM   #9
Gantz
Rookie
 
Gantz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 248
Default

you don't specify what to do with the dumbells...

mentioning wrist curls and reverse wrist curls, along with pronation and supination would be good.
__________________
K90. Western FH. Eastern 1HBH. Machine baseliner. PSGD at 50lbs.
Gantz is offline   Reply With Quote
Gantz
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Gantz
Old 04-17-2008, 02:47 AM   #10
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

k gantz will dont like i said adivce..please give and its under construction
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-17-2008, 02:48 AM   #11
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BORISK View Post
"1. Make sure that your racket for now is a light weight one preferably Less than 10 oz"
Are you serious ? Less then 10? I would say at least 12 !!!
dude think about the overall conceptual shock that can be transmitted to the arm
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-17-2008, 05:27 AM   #12
psYcon
Semi-Pro
 
psYcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 566
Default

I use Poly on my Prokennex Ki5. namely the Luxilon Big Banger. Are you sure it can contribute to tennis elbow?
__________________
3x Prokennex Ionic Ki 5 , strung w/Wilson NXT 16 @ 60lbs
NTRP 4.5 lefty
psYcon is offline   Reply With Quote
psYcon
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by psYcon
Old 04-17-2008, 07:50 AM   #13
tennisdad65
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: somewhere in calif
Posts: 2,355
Default

Heavier rackets are better for Tennis Elbow.
Less than 10 oz are the worst rackets for Tennis Elbow.
You should use the heaviest racket that you can use effortlessly. If you can handle 11oz - 13 oz easily, then use it. I use 12.4 - 13.4 range.

Flex ratings below 60-62 are recommended.
tennisdad65 is offline   Reply With Quote
tennisdad65
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by tennisdad65
Old 04-17-2008, 08:27 AM   #14
Mr. Blond
Professional
 
Mr. Blond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 816
Send a message via AIM to Mr. Blond
Default

As I know it, heavy, but head light racquets are the key to recovery.

Heavy racquets are better for the vibration transmitted to the body and head light to lessen the impact of the heft while swinging. I know head light heavy has made a world of difference in my recovery time.
__________________
According to this board:Fed=slap and should switch to a larger head frame. Nadal=god and only allows Fed to exists to fill his spot while injured.
Mr. Blond is offline   Reply With Quote
Mr. Blond
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Mr. Blond
Old 04-17-2008, 08:32 AM   #15
IceNineTX
Rookie
 
IceNineTX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 366
Default

The best thread I have read is this one regarding tennis elbow:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=58089

Light racquets are death on the elbow. I can not stress enough what others have said. Heavy, but head light balance is a huge factor. You can find my reply to in that thread where my wife was suffering very badly. She could not reach into our cupboards to get things without wincing. I took her head heavy Wilson Hammer and sold it on **** and bought a Prince O3 White. Within days, she was better and has been pain free for 18 months or so.

ice
IceNineTX is offline   Reply With Quote
IceNineTX
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by IceNineTX
Old 04-17-2008, 09:32 AM   #16
seb85
Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: London, UK
Posts: 188
Default

Yes. A 10oz racket is more likely to LEAD TO tennis elbow that cure it.

Racket should be: -

Flexible
Heavy
Head light

and have
soft strings, preferably natural gut.
the right size of grip.

In practice this means NO GRANNY STICKS

The bit about middle age is not true. People can get tennis elbow for all sorts of reasons at any age. Don't lead people down the wrong track by suggesting that only middle age people can get it.

Add "deep tissue massage" to treatments.

Some mention of technique would be helpful. A significant number of TE injuries are due to technique issues esp on the backhand side (but by no means all- it can also be caused by technique issues on the forehand, serve or volleys). TE can also be caused by overuse.

Some mention of RSI might be helpful- too much use of a computer can lead to TE or other pains in the area.

A small section of other possibilities would be good- nerve impingement in the neck/shoulder. Radial tunnel syndrome.

Also, unless you are a qualified doctor or PT, i would suggest a disclaimer in the original post making it absolutely clear that this advice is not given by a doctor or PT.

Last edited by seb85 : 04-17-2008 at 09:41 AM.
seb85 is offline   Reply With Quote
seb85
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by seb85
Old 04-17-2008, 11:24 AM   #17
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

thank you all for all your advice more will be appreciated
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-17-2008, 11:26 AM   #18
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by psYcon View Post
I use Poly on my Prokennex Ki5. namely the Luxilon Big Banger. Are you sure it can contribute to tennis elbow?
Yes poly is a factor if you have tennis elbow it will kill your arm...but it is very stiff and uncomfortable for players
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-17-2008, 04:21 PM   #19
roger is the king
Rookie
 
roger is the king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN A WORLD OF TENNIS
Posts: 245
Default

need more advice guys
__________________
2x Head LM Instinct--Prince Syn. Gut. Duraflex @ 62

Last edited by roger is the king : 04-17-2008 at 05:07 PM. Reason: add
roger is the king is offline   Reply With Quote
roger is the king
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by roger is the king
Old 04-18-2008, 04:04 AM   #20
waves2ya
Rookie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 268
Default

There's a *lot* of elbow tips already in this forum - and a number of good round-ups if you use the 'search' function - so here's a little perhaps contrarians advice.

Besides all the ez stuff like avoiding 'poly' strings and light racquets, technique is a critical part of the problem. Folks spend years hitting the ball a certain way and because they are on one side of the genetic age equation they can get away with it. Until they get on the other side; compensation patterns break down and suddenly the weak link is staring at you in the face... er arm.

You'll find many good lifting tips. And almost all of them can *give* you tennis elbow/golfer's elbow. Lifting like a madman can exacerbate things significantly.

The tincture of time is nature's most powerful weapon (that, and for the tennis player, learning proper technique...!).
waves2ya is offline   Reply With Quote
waves2ya
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by waves2ya
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23 >

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Go Back   Talk Tennis > Miscellaneous > Health & Fitness
Reload this Page Tennis Elbow Guide

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:26 AM.

Talk Tennis :: Powered By Tennis Warehouse - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2006 - Tennis Warehouse