***The Pure Storm Tour thread*** - Page 2

Harry24 · 07-22-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

I'm loving these great reports ^^ about the serve abilities of the PST

and am really looking forward to discovering it for myself. In the meantime though, just to give me an even better idea, how would ppl say it compares in general to the PD, the PC, or the PDR?

My opinion- the pure drives just arent that great for me on serve...wish Icould help

. The pure storm tour blows them out of the water in every category.

PED · 07-22-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LafayetteHitter

I am currently playing this frame with Yonex 850 Pro spin multi mains and Kirschbaum Pro Line II crosses at 57lbs. Spin is great and the pop on serves if fantastic. I am thinking of trying poly mains for added spin but hate to loose the sweet ball pocketing characteristics of the multi mains

What kind of lifespan are you getting out of that string setup? I had x1 mains crossed with CF and it was wonderful (probably my best setup ever) until it popped right in the middle of the mains after 2 hours. I'd love to try your setup but would like to be able to get more than 2 hours out of it.

thx

Ross K · 07-22-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry24

My opinion- the pure drives just arent that great for me on serve...wish Icould help

. The pure storm tour blows them out of the water in every category.

Wo!?... I find that hard to believe (specially on serve and groundies.) Anyway, should get the frame today and shall report back after I've had a hit... though I should say I've recently had a few sessions with my old PD+ (team version, non-Cortex) and have been very impressed by its qualities, compared to which the likes of the PDR and the Pure Control don't match up IMO... but what about the PST though?... (TO BE CONTINUED.)

0d1n · 07-23-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chris_in_japan

No problem with the spin and durability. Its the softness of the string that has been the hardest to get used to, but my elbow loves me for it now that I have found this frame, and this string... I have been a little late with my backhand and keep catching the net tape of late. So I have decided 3grams of lead in the "put lead here" section at 12 to see how it goes. But I have a feeling I may have also try 3 & 9 at some stage..

I fail to see the logic in adding lead @ 12 if you're already hitting late. IMO the lead should be added if the frame swings too light (i.e you are hitting early).

Ross K · 07-23-2008, 06:57 AM

Hit with the PST for an hour earlier. Too soon obviously to say anything too definitive, but my first reactions were:

. It's everything I always kind of wanted the Pure Control to be.

. This has to have the best control/feel/touch Bab rod I've tried.

. A very good serving stick. I don't personally think it's better than the stiffer Bab frames, but it's close enough. No complaints at all.

. Groundies a tad less powerful than your PD's etc, but so what? If you want more control and a bit of flex (just like supposed 'player's frames'), whilst retaining something of the Babolat oomph - this is the one. Both fhs and bhs were finding good depth, pace and the spin was more than adequate.

. Really liked it on return of serve - very soliid.

. Menouverability: pretty easy to swing I thought.

. Comfort: absolutely fine.

. Cosmetics work for me with it's updated Pure Control/Pure Storm look.

. Set up of Lux Alu Power @ 56 lbs felt... hmmmm... very, very niiice... "ooooh baby!"...

Anyway, those are my early impressions... IMO (albeit only based on an hour's hit) Babolat has come up with a winner here. A great combination that picks up on the qualities of the Pure Storm and the Pure Control (and ditches the negatives), and adds a bit of player's frame class with the added feel and control.

anbu4ever11 · 07-23-2008, 07:09 AM

it really is a wonderful frame.i have just one but ive used it from april till about now.i went from an apdc to it and it completely just blew it out of the water.would of stuck with it if the current stick i am getting wasnt an improvement compared to it.babolat hit the spot with these rackets though and i bet theyll have a ton of pure storm tour junkies by the time new ones come out

Ross K · 07-23-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by anbu4ever11

it really is a wonderful frame.i have just one but ive used it from april till about now.i went from an apdc to it and it completely just blew it out of the water.would of stuck with it if the current stick i am getting wasnt an improvement compared to it.babolat hit the spot with these rackets though and i bet theyll have a ton of pure storm tour junkies by the time new ones come out

And what prey tell is this frame which is an 'improvement' on the PST?

anbu4ever11 · 07-23-2008, 10:05 AM

well i personally prefer the tecnifibre 320 XL now.idk something about it is just fits me better.im keeping my pst though for sure cause it is really a great racket

Ross K · 07-23-2008, 01:16 PM

I'm wondering if they do the PST in a plus size?... that might interest me.

Harry24 · 07-23-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

I'm wondering if they do the PST in a plus size?... that might interest me.

yeah TW has a plus version of the Pure Storm Tour

[K]evinMoss · 07-23-2008, 04:23 PM

Ross, I think the more you play with this stick, the more you'll find it's kinda like pickin up an old baseball glove you've had layin around the house. it just seems to work. i have three and if there is one minor complaint, i'd like to see a 12.5 oz version. but that's just my preference...

Ross K · 07-23-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by [K]evinMoss

... if there is one minor complaint, i'd like to see a 12.5 oz version. but that's just my preference...

Kevin,

Upon deeper reflection, now I think about it, I too could perhaps ideally do with a bit more heft (don't know about 12.05 though.) Plus also... and this is a bigger issue... re directional control - which is probably easier in many ways with the PST than other Babs - I was still a bit too off for my liking; still a bit too wayward and not as precise as I'd wish for. Of course I only played an hour so I can't expect to be fully dialed in. Anyway, I'm taking the PST and 2-3 more frames with me on holiday today where I should have good opportunities to test these rods out and finally decide on, ahem... "THE ONE"!

anbu4ever11,

Interesting that you prefer the TF 320XL. Pretty recently I had a short-lived period of playing with the TF 320 18x20. Initially I was absolutely bowled over by the phenomenal accuracy and control capacity of the frame. However, I quickly became frustrated by its low, low power, and the feel began to bug me. The TF that still holds some appeal for me would be the 325, but as that isn't easy to get (and certainly not in the UK), I've sort of put it out of my mind. Besides, for me, TBH the PST is a much better frame all around than the TF (the TF 320 18x20 at any rate.)

[K]evinMoss · 07-24-2008, 06:38 PM

Ross, do yourself a favor and give it some time. I promise your patience WILL be rewarded. It took me about 10-12 total hours to get real comfortable with it. And I still find it better and better each time out. It just seems to come around a little time. But as with any racquet, you must have confidence in it and be comfortable with it. And ONLY YOU can make that decision. Enjoy...

kinsella · 07-24-2008, 08:07 PM

I have experimented with several set ups using natural gut mains. The latest tweak that not only works well, but feels fabulous is 58 lbs 17g BDE/Pacific Classic/Klip Legend and 18g Gosen OG at 55#. The lower tension on the Gosen lets the gut dominate the feeling, while the higher tension gives better control. The lower tension and lighter gauge crosses maintain the comfort I had at lower tensions. Bite for spin is outstanding.

anbu4ever11 · 07-24-2008, 09:30 PM

oh yeah ross u def will like the pst if u keep using it.yes well i should be getting my tfight 320 xl soon today so ill have to go out and compare to the pst.i like the pst alot i really do.it is a very very nice stick but its not the one for me.its up there though,its second followed by the aerostorm tour or kblade tour in my book

VAmazona · 07-28-2008, 06:23 PM

Interesting observations! I am having elbow problems from my PS 6.0s and power envy from my mid 50 lb string jobs. I used to have the Pure Control + but moved into the 6.0 pro staff, would this be a good racquet (or even the new aero version) for someone not generating the same pop (I've always felt the PS wasn't a racquet you could pick up and just hit away with)?

Harry24 · 07-28-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by anbu4ever11

oh yeah ross u def will like the pst if u keep using it.yes well i should be getting my tfight 320 xl soon today so ill have to go out and compare to the pst.i like the pst alot i really do.it is a very very nice stick but its not the one for me.its up there though,its second followed by the aerostorm tour or kblade tour in my book

wow thats interesting!, kblade tour and aero storm tour are two completely different racquets to me

h7hugo · 07-29-2008, 04:06 AM

I assume that some guys as already played with the pure strom and the pure strom lmt. Can you give me some thoughts about PST and PS Lmt. compared with the PS?? (I've only hit with a PS)

Ross K · 07-30-2008, 01:07 PM

Played with it today against better player and the results were interesting...

I really got going on the serve this afternoon (and BTW, cheers and kudos to you guys who originally told a sceptical me about the tremendous serve capacity of the racquet.) Slice out wide was consistantly troubling for my opponent. However, it was the flat (flatish anyway) bombers down the middle that were very impressive. The ace count was higher than I've experienced in a very long time. Cue - big smile

! Next I need to work on my second serve kickers and see if I can't make this a reliable weapon.

Sadly, the advances made with the serve seemed to be equalled by the unwelcome reappearance of that maddening phenomenon known unto thousands and thousands of Babolat users the world over and since the day the company began selling the frames successfully; namely ('He clears his throat.') I had 'control issues'... Yep... I was hitting too long, too often... and, frankly, it really p***** me off!... Cue misery!

Anyway, right now it's looking like it's betwen the PST and one other frame.

StealthGnome · 07-30-2008, 02:56 PM

I just bought one from a TWer. My arm is sore from bowling (i think i did it wrong lol fail) so I'll probably wait a few days.

07-23-2008, 06:57 AM	#25
Ross K Legend Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,758	PST - early thoughts... Hit with the PST for an hour earlier. Too soon obviously to say anything too definitive, but my first reactions were: . It's everything I always kind of wanted the Pure Control to be. . This has to have the best control/feel/touch Bab rod I've tried. . A very good serving stick. I don't personally think it's better than the stiffer Bab frames, but it's close enough. No complaints at all. . Groundies a tad less powerful than your PD's etc, but so what? If you want more control and a bit of flex (just like supposed 'player's frames'), whilst retaining something of the Babolat oomph - this is the one. Both fhs and bhs were finding good depth, pace and the spin was more than adequate. . Really liked it on return of serve - very soliid. . Menouverability: pretty easy to swing I thought. . Comfort: absolutely fine. . Cosmetics work for me with it's updated Pure Control/Pure Storm look. . Set up of Lux Alu Power @ 56 lbs felt... hmmmm... very, very niiice... "ooooh baby!"... Anyway, those are my early impressions... IMO (albeit only based on an hour's hit) Babolat has come up with a winner here. A great combination that picks up on the qualities of the Pure Storm and the Pure Control (and ditches the negatives), and adds a bit of player's frame class with the added feel and control.

07-23-2008, 04:23 PM	#31
[K]evinMoss New User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 35	Ross, I think the more you play with this stick, the more you'll find it's kinda like pickin up an old baseball glove you've had layin around the house. it just seems to work. i have three and if there is one minor complaint, i'd like to see a 12.5 oz version. but that's just my preference... __________________ (2) T-Fight 335 16x20 X1 Red @ 57lbs (2) Prestige MP 18x20 PHT17 @ 58lbs

07-24-2008, 06:38 PM	#33
[K]evinMoss New User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 35	Ross, do yourself a favor and give it some time. I promise your patience WILL be rewarded. It took me about 10-12 total hours to get real comfortable with it. And I still find it better and better each time out. It just seems to come around a little time. But as with any racquet, you must have confidence in it and be comfortable with it. And ONLY YOU can make that decision. Enjoy... __________________ (2) T-Fight 335 16x20 X1 Red @ 57lbs (2) Prestige MP 18x20 PHT17 @ 58lbs

07-24-2008, 08:07 PM	#34
kinsella Semi-Pro Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 559	I have experimented with several set ups using natural gut mains. The latest tweak that not only works well, but feels fabulous is 58 lbs 17g BDE/Pacific Classic/Klip Legend and 18g Gosen OG at 55#. The lower tension on the Gosen lets the gut dominate the feeling, while the higher tension gives better control. The lower tension and lighter gauge crosses maintain the comfort I had at lower tensions. Bite for spin is outstanding. __________________ John Kinsella, St. Louis, MO john.kinsella@att.net Volkl Classic C10 Pro - Tornado 1.17 mm/Gosen OG 1.15 mm @ 54#

07-29-2008, 04:06 AM	#38
h7hugo Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 361	I assume that some guys as already played with the pure strom and the pure strom lmt. Can you give me some thoughts about PST and PS Lmt. compared with the PS?? (I've only hit with a PS) __________________ "You can never be bigger than the game and I think you always have to remember that" - Roger Federer