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Old 06-29-2008, 05:58 PM   #21
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Nothing's written in stone, but if you're a late sleeper, you can bet some muscle loss will occur with a 7pm limit. If you slept at 7:30, that's another story.
maybe, maybe not
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Old 06-29-2008, 07:37 PM   #22
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shoot you can find plenty of college athletes who are ridiculously lean and are trashed and hitting up late night drive thru's on weekends
Sure. And there are college kids who can eat 2 Big Macs, fries, and a milkshake and stay lean, but I wouldn't say that's ok for everyone.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:39 PM   #23
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it does not matter what you eat or how much you eat as long as you burn more calories than you take in you WILL lose weight. You can eat 1 huge meal at 9pm every day and as long as you burn more calories than you take in you will lose weight. Don't worry about when you eat.

If you want to lose weight eat a breakfast that has a lot of carbs. Eat a lunch that has a good amount of carbs. Eat a light dinner with not as many carbs and more vegetables. The last thing you want to do is starve your body. You should not be losing more than 2 pounds per week. If you are then you are losing weight too quickly. That is unless you weigh something like 300 and you are very overweight because it is proportional of course.

My best advice is to stay away from beer and soda entirely. Eat more fish, vegetables, veggie burgers (Morning star brand actually tastes amazingly really good) Find a 100+ step staircaise and run up it 5 times every other day increasing 1 set each week. Play tennis and do stairs and you will feel like a machine in no time.

Also, frozen vegetables are great. Take a whole bag of vegetables whatever kind you want and just dump them into a large bowl and microwave them for a few minutes and dinner is served. As long as you have a good balanced diet with high carb breakfast and lunch and AT LEAST 8 hours of sleep each night you will feel amazing
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:09 PM   #24
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maybe, maybe not
Let's see; sleep at 1 AM and stop eating before 7. I wouldn't count on keeping a lot of muscle with that kind of diet.
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:12 PM   #25
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So I guess eating 6 burritos from Taco Bell at 2 am is out.

What if you just had a hardcore workout at 1 AM? I think 6 burritos would be no problem.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:16 PM   #26
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Let's see; sleep at 1 AM and stop eating before 7. I wouldn't count on keeping a lot of muscle with that kind of diet.
i wouldnt either, but some do
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:20 PM   #27
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I just ate after 7. Oh noes!
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:27 PM   #28
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It does matter when or what you eat at certain times if you want to see results.

A calorie is a calorie no matter when you eat BUT its not "all the same" as to when a human body burns those calories. Thats the main issue.
Your body slows down during night time, so if you ate that "bowl of ice cream" at 9PM, your not burning it off as fast as if you ate it at 3PM

I do not eat past 6:30PM and I have seen very good results. I will eat a dinner that fills me up and then I will have a tea or water through the evening. If I become active after 6:30 I will have a protein shake or or some sort of food during or after, due to my body will be in "burning mode".
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Old 07-01-2008, 04:42 PM   #29
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It's better to eat late at night than not to eat at all.
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It's better to eat late at night than not to eat at all.
not really no. Odds are that "late night food" was not factored into your daily diet for one. Or if it was, you would be better to eat it earlier then "later in the day".

not to mention the disadvantages of trying to get to sleep if you just scarfed down a high sugar or high carb meal, thats not exactly going to help "sleep" which is the plan at late night, not being "full"
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Unfortunately, you've been told some myths and you're having trouble getting them out of your head. Eating late at night never did and never will make anyone fat. Consuming more calories than one uses makes one gain bodyfat. You can consume more calories than you use at 5 pm and go over your limit or you can consume a meal at midnight and still be in a caloric deficit. I'd rather stay in the deficit so as you can clearly see, eating late at night has nothing to do with weight gain.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:04 PM   #32
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Asians don't eat before 7.
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not really no. Odds are that "late night food" was not factored into your daily diet for one. Or if it was, you would be better to eat it earlier then "later in the day".

not to mention the disadvantages of trying to get to sleep if you just scarfed down a high sugar or high carb meal, thats not exactly going to help "sleep" which is the plan at late night, not being "full"
what is wrong with carbohydrates at night? carbs are pretty darn muscle sparing if you ask me

why would it be better to eat earlier? its not like your body decides to put things on hold when you dont eat, processes still occur inside you.

theres a difference between throwing down ice cream cake and drinking a glass of milk at night
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Most of the fittest, strongest people in the world can't go without their late night meal. I doubt there's a bodybuilder out there who wouldn't feel uneasy going to sleep without having something in his belly.

8 hours of starvation is enough. Why prolong it to 12 hours, or 15 hours?
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Most of the fittest, strongest people in the world can't go without their late night meal. I doubt there's a bodybuilder out there who wouldn't feel uneasy going to sleep without having something in his belly.

8 hours of starvation is enough. Why prolong it to 12 hours, or 15 hours?
I have yet to meet a bodybuilder who doesn't throw down a protein shake or at least a chicken breast for a late night snack. I know some dude who used to eat steak and rice late at night and he was shredded.
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I have yet to meet a bodybuilder who doesn't throw down a protein shake or at least a chicken breast for a late night snack. I know some dude who used to eat steak and rice late at night and he was shredded.
Steak and rice. Just a great combo!
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Unfortunately, you've been told some myths and you're having trouble getting them out of your head. Eating late at night never did and never will make anyone fat. Consuming more calories than one uses makes one gain bodyfat. You can consume more calories than you use at 5 pm and go over your limit or you can consume a meal at midnight and still be in a caloric deficit. I'd rather stay in the deficit so as you can clearly see, eating late at night has nothing to do with weight gain.
Nah I'm not wrong you just trying to use two examples in one argument

We all know consuming more calories then one uses is the problem but that wasn't really what was up for debate.

Sure it does. If someone eats 100% of their food at 11:30 at night for one week, and then is put on a scale, it will read a certain weight. Then, if they eat 20% of their food in each sitting, for a total of five meals they will have a weight difference. Its proven. (and for both weeks the calorie intake was the same)

And even if you take the "weight issue" out of the subject, your still dealing with your sugar levels when going to bed on a full stomach compared to not being on an empty stomach. Again, it may not be a "noticeable difference" buts its what we call a "difference" that is proven and known.
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Eating 5 meals with the 5th meal eaten late at night is immensely better than eating your total calories in the morning too. That was a ridiculous point you made there, buddy.
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what is wrong with carbohydrates at night? carbs are pretty darn muscle sparing if you ask me

why would it be better to eat earlier? its not like your body decides to put things on hold when you dont eat, processes still occur inside you.

theres a difference between throwing down ice cream cake and drinking a glass of milk at night
Actually alot. If you looked at the top bodybuilders they would almost all refuse carbs after 6 or 7pm at night.

It puts things on hold when you sleep. Your body burns more calories when your awake then when your asleep.
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All competitive bodybuilders cut their carbs precontest, but is it to lose bodyfat? Absolutely not. They cut carbs to lose water weight. Water weight.
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