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Breaker · 10-28-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Feña14

It's funny how whichever team Ronaldo plays for, they always over rely on him. He's a great player and wins countless matches for you on his own so you can understand why they do it, but I can't help thinking the progress of the team as a whole suffers because of it.

When you have one man who can do it all, it covers up the weaknesses a team has. It also let's the team think that all they have to do is get the ball to him and they'll be fine, which leads to sloppiness and a big panic when they don't see his name on the team sheet.

Yeah another thing it does is show that the others aren't that good without him there, Benzema for example isn't someone who can win a match by himself.

Missing Kaka is also huge for them as he is controlling most of their attacks by doing the simple little passes and occasional burst of speed to open up space for everyone else. Without him doing that and Ronaldo prodicing magic they're in my opinion just an above average squad rather than a potential multiple-trophy winning squad.

Feña14 · 10-28-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker

Yeah another thing it does is show that the others aren't that good without him there, Benzema for example isn't someone who can win a match by himself.

Missing Kaka is also huge for them as he is controlling most of their attacks by doing the simple little passes and occasional burst of speed to open up space for everyone else. Without him doing that and Ronaldo prodicing magic they're in my opinion just an above average squad rather than a potential multiple-trophy winning squad.

Probably true, i'm quite shocked to see a few people tipping them to win the Champions League this year anyway. Can you imagine a two-legged quarter or semi against a Liverpool (if they wake up) or Chelsea who have been experts over the past 5 or so years?

If someone were to offer me Real Madrid in the semis of the Champions of League i'd bite their hand off!

NickC · 10-28-2009, 03:34 PM

Alright boys...

Anyone catch the cup matches today? I saw the second half of Liverpool-Arsenal, and I wasn't disappointed. Aqualani looked quality from the second he stepped on the pitch, a bit more attack-minded than Alonso but still a brilliant passer and has a great ability to control the flow of the game. If I was Rafa, I'd throw him in Gerrard's position behind Torres and put Gerrard in the center of the park. On a side note, I can see why Ryan Babel is on the chopping block at Anfield, he made Voronin (who wasn't very productive) look good. He's absolutely useless.

Feña14 · 10-28-2009, 05:14 PM

Another good win tonight, that's 13 goals in a week with none against.

We've gone 13 hours of football without letting one in at home and have the most clean sheets so far! all this from a team who are supposed to be a defensive mess

Breaker · 10-28-2009, 06:14 PM

Vladi Weiss and Michael Johnson are going to be City legends one day. Amazingly talented products of our academy!

In a few years Hart, Nedum, Richards, Weiss, Ireland, and Johnson could all be starting as first team regulars which would be absolutely great for the club.

As for the Cup as long as we don't get Chelsea away I won't be too worried, though I probably should be as our quarterfinal curse never seems to fail..

NickC · 10-31-2009, 07:02 AM

Ok boys, what did we all take away from Spurs-Arsenal?

For one thing, I feel bad for Spurs, they were decent for the first 30 or so and then Arsenal shifted up a few gears and Fabregas absolutely destoryed them! Arshavin was good, Arsenal were only able to hang in there in the first half due to his raw energy and desire to score. Not as good as some (myself included) predicted he'd be today, but still effective, and served as a catalyst for the rest of the team to pick up the pace and score. For another thing, I have to admit that I'm eating my words as we speak on the topic of Bakary Sagna. For all the trash I throw at him and for all that I critisize him for, he was impressive as hell today. Very good in the back, and his passing through the midfield was excellent. RVP was awesome, obviously. I still have Cesc as my man of the match, his passing was spot-on and he really took the game to Spurs.

The ref was who I think had the worst time out on the pitch, how could he not give Bently a yellow for that challenge early on? Props to him for allowing play to really flow today, but he should have asserted his athourity a bit more often and much earlier as well.

Any thoughts or rants from anyone else?

Ross K · 10-31-2009, 07:10 AM

Arsenal 3-0 Spurs

F*** me...

I knew we were in trouble when Robbie Keane did the dumbest thing imaginable in provoking Arsenal with nonsense about how Spurs now had a better squad, etc. Don't these dimwits realize how you need to keep your boasts in check until after the game is actually won? I can promise you that the fans certainly don't tempt fate like this in such an imbecilic manner... and it's us who will be getting in the neck now for weeks on end from all the smug gooners!!!

R.

lhstennis12 · 10-31-2009, 08:26 AM

There is a fine line between playing hard and playing dirty, and Bolton may have crossed that line v. Chelsea. Blue shirts are going down all over the place, and fouls aren't being called. And they're not just falling, they're getting pulled down by Bolton's men.

NickC · 10-31-2009, 09:02 AM

Liverpool have just gotten smacked around 3-1 at Fulham. If United loose today I think I'll crap my pants with laughter.

Ross K · 10-31-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lhstennis12

There is a fine line between playing hard and playing dirty, and Bolton may have crossed that line v. Chelsea. Blue shirts are going down all over the place, and fouls aren't being called. And they're not just falling, they're getting pulled down by Bolton's men.

Sounds like a dispatch from the US Civil War!

R.

Breaker · 10-31-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lhstennis12

There is a fine line between playing hard and playing dirty, and Bolton may have crossed that line v. Chelsea. Blue shirts are going down all over the place, and fouls aren't being called. And they're not just falling, they're getting pulled down by Bolton's men.

That's just how the English game is played, just about every team in England is like that.

And Liverpool are crap no top 4 for them this year

NickC · 10-31-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Breaker

And Liverpool are crap no top 4 for them this year

And Villa will go 4th. City, 6th. But a lot of the season is left, I'm curious to see exactly how the rest of the big 4 handles the pressure. I still think Chelsea will pip Arsenal for the title, but if United drop points today, Liverpool still has an outside shot.

Feña14 · 10-31-2009, 01:43 PM

Ross, try and catch Drogba's goal on MOTD tonight.. that's how it's done!

Dave M · 10-31-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

Arsenal 3-0 Spurs

F*** me...

I knew we were in trouble when Robbie Keane did the dumbest thing imaginable in provoking Arsenal with nonsense about how Spurs now had a better squad, etc. Don't these dimwits realize how you need to keep your boasts in check until after the game is actually won? I can promise you that the fans certainly don't tempt fate like this in such an imbecilic manner... and it's us who will be getting in the neck now for weeks on end from all the smug gooners!!!

R.

Oh Ross, i was starting to like you then i read this and see you are a spurs fan?Shame.

SuperFly · 11-01-2009, 12:28 PM

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lhstennis12 · 11-01-2009, 12:48 PM

[quote=Breaker;4069502]That's just how the English game is played, just about every team in England is like that. QUOTE]

I've seen the English game plenty of times (plenty!) and this was one of the roughest I've seen in a while.

Ross K · 11-01-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Feña14

Ross, try and catch Drogba's goal on MOTD tonight.. that's how it's done!

Just saw it this morning... total class goal - absolutely!

On a different CFC matter... I'm still getting accustomed to seeing Deco buzzing around and doing his thing. And though I don't watch your lot week in and week out, he's impressed me when I have seen him. But what's your verdict/opinion Fena? He used to be such a sublime player? Reckon he can be like that still consistently or is he really just a 'fits and starts' player (albeit a once phenomenally gifted player) right at the very tail-end of a decent career?

R.

Feña14 · 11-01-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

Just saw it this morning... total class goal - absolutely!

On a different CFC matter... I'm still getting accustomed to seeing Deco buzzing around and doing his thing. And though I don't watch your lot week in and week out, he's impressed me when I have seen him. But what's your verdict/opinion Fena? He used to be such a sublime player? Reckon he can be like that still consistently or is he really just a 'fits and starts' player (albeit a once phenomenally gifted player) right at the very tail-end of a decent career?

R.

Interesting question! You're right, he has been very good. At the tip of the diamond is his best position and that's where he's playing this year, you can see he's alot more comfortable there and he has a years worth of experience in England under his belt so he's used to the pace and power more this season.

I think Joe Cole and Deco will be rotated in that position so both players should stay quite fit for the whole season, considering Deco isn't as young as he used to be and Joe Cole is known for his injuries, that's probably a good thing.

Ross K · 11-01-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Feña14

Interesting question! You're right, he has been very good. At the tip of the diamond is his best position and that's where he's playing this year, you can see he's alot more comfortable there and he has a years worth of experience in England under his belt so he's used to the pace and power more this season.

I think Joe Cole and Deco will be rotated in that position so both players should stay quite fit for the whole season, considering Deco isn't as young as he used to be and Joe Cole is known for his injuries, that's probably a good thing.

As an ex-Harry player, if there's the slightest encouragement I reckon Spurs will bid big for Joe Cole before the end of next summer... not that he'll definitely want to come of course!

R.

Feña14 · 11-01-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

As an ex-Harry player, if there's the slightest encouragement I reckon Spurs will bid big for Joe Cole before the end of next summer... not that he'll definitely want to come of course!

R.

I wouldn't hold your breath

He grew up as a Chelsea fan, stood in the stands, he was even a ball boy at Stamford Bridge!

He'd play for Chelsea for free if they asked him.

10-28-2009, 03:34 PM	#1983
NickC Professional Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: University of Arizona Posts: 1,426	Alright boys... Anyone catch the cup matches today? I saw the second half of Liverpool-Arsenal, and I wasn't disappointed. Aqualani looked quality from the second he stepped on the pitch, a bit more attack-minded than Alonso but still a brilliant passer and has a great ability to control the flow of the game. If I was Rafa, I'd throw him in Gerrard's position behind Torres and put Gerrard in the center of the park. On a side note, I can see why Ryan Babel is on the chopping block at Anfield, he made Voronin (who wasn't very productive) look good. He's absolutely useless. __________________ 2x Prince o3 Tour MP - Polystar Energy 17g at 54 pounds, lead at 11 and 1 Se habla Espanol.

10-31-2009, 07:02 AM	#1986
NickC Professional Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: University of Arizona Posts: 1,426	Ok boys, what did we all take away from Spurs-Arsenal? For one thing, I feel bad for Spurs, they were decent for the first 30 or so and then Arsenal shifted up a few gears and Fabregas absolutely destoryed them! Arshavin was good, Arsenal were only able to hang in there in the first half due to his raw energy and desire to score. Not as good as some (myself included) predicted he'd be today, but still effective, and served as a catalyst for the rest of the team to pick up the pace and score. For another thing, I have to admit that I'm eating my words as we speak on the topic of Bakary Sagna. For all the trash I throw at him and for all that I critisize him for, he was impressive as hell today. Very good in the back, and his passing through the midfield was excellent. RVP was awesome, obviously. I still have Cesc as my man of the match, his passing was spot-on and he really took the game to Spurs. The ref was who I think had the worst time out on the pitch, how could he not give Bently a yellow for that challenge early on? Props to him for allowing play to really flow today, but he should have asserted his athourity a bit more often and much earlier as well. Any thoughts or rants from anyone else? __________________ 2x Prince o3 Tour MP - Polystar Energy 17g at 54 pounds, lead at 11 and 1 Se habla Espanol.

10-31-2009, 08:26 AM	#1988
lhstennis12 New User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 12	There is a fine line between playing hard and playing dirty, and Bolton may have crossed that line v. Chelsea. Blue shirts are going down all over the place, and fouls aren't being called. And they're not just falling, they're getting pulled down by Bolton's men. __________________ Prince Exo3 Grahpite 100s SW forehand, 2HBH, mostly flat and kick serves.

10-31-2009, 09:02 AM	#1989
NickC Professional Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: University of Arizona Posts: 1,426	Liverpool have just gotten smacked around 3-1 at Fulham. If United loose today I think I'll crap my pants with laughter. __________________ 2x Prince o3 Tour MP - Polystar Energy 17g at 54 pounds, lead at 11 and 1 Se habla Espanol.

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