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[BridgetJones]

Originally Posted by NickC

I actually would if I was in charge of the FA and wanted a quick fix until after the Euros. The guy's made massive strides since getting sacked by England, what's he got, like a Dutch League title and a Bundesliga title to his name in 3 years? Not bad.

He left Forest in the drop zone or close to it earlier in the year.

[PureAlph4]

Originally Posted by NickC

The guy's made massive strides since getting sacked by England, what's he got, like a Dutch League title and a Bundesliga title to his name in 3 years? Not bad.

Don't give him too much credit! McClaren did win the Eredivisie, but he certainly didn't succeed in the Bundesliga, being sacked midway through his first season.

I believe that the FA need Redknapp far more than the inverse. A lot of people are now very indifferent about the England team, following the original promise of the putative 'Golden Generation' maturing into forgettable dross. Regardless of what it might imply about nationalistic values in England, a populist, charismatic (loosely interpreted ), recognisable Englishman at the helm will act to rally support. While his presence likely will not impact England's inability to win trophies, and undoubtedly the mood will eventually turn against him, the English sporting public at least will accept the team (not the inevitable dire performances) as some sort of approximation of our best effort. Sentimental claptrap perhaps, but I think it's the only gesture the FA can make to drag some proper partisan passion back into the average fan.

I'm interested to know what the feelings are towards Redknapp among those from 'the north.' He's obviously inherently always been associated with London and the south coast, and is very much an embodiment of that stereotype.

[Breaker]

Beckham should just be player-manager, wouldn't be any more of a farce than the other options really.

[Ross K]

Some, er, interesting shouts... Benitez?... McClaren?... hmm... an obvious one for interim boss I forgot in my earlier post would be Hiddink.

I agree with the comment that the FA/England need Redknapp more than he needs them.

Still find it all slightly fishy TBH... Was Cap's position made untenable by the FA's decision re Terry?... Did the FA suddenly want him out?... What was said at the meeting yesterday?... Was that Italian TV interview mis-translated (as Gab Marcotti insists)?... And would this have been allowed to happen had Harry been found guilty?

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by Ross K

Some, er, interesting shouts... Benitez?... McClaren?... hmm... an obvious one for interim boss I forgot in my earlier post would be Hiddink.

I agree with the comment that the FA/England need Redknapp more than he needs them.

Still find it all slightly fishy TBH... Was Cap's position made untenable by the FA's decision re Terry?... Did the FA suddenly want him out?... What was said at the meeting yesterday?... Was that Italian TV interview mis-translated (as Gab Marcotti insists)?... And would this have been allowed to happen had Harry been found guilty?

It would seem at this early stage that was the reason. I say fair to play to him, stripping Terry of the captaincy on the basis of a QPR fan reporting him to the police is certainly wrong. If someone reports the next England captain to the police for anything they have to do the same, guilty or not. If Terry was found guilty then sure, get rid. What if he is found innocent? No players on the pitch said they heard anything, he says he didn't, the only evidence are Sky pictures capturing him in the middle of denying he said anything etc.. And that's the reason the FA went over the manager to get rid of him? Capello had no choice, they undermined him, how can he work under those conditions?

[Ross K]

Originally Posted by Feña14

It would seem at this early stage that was the reason. I say fair to play to him, stripping Terry of the captaincy on the basis of a QPR fan reporting him to the police is certainly wrong. If someone reports the next England captain to the police for anything they have to do the same, guilty or not. If Terry was found guilty then sure, get rid. What if he is found innocent? No players on the pitch said they heard anything, he says he didn't, the only evidence are Sky pictures capturing him in the middle of denying he said anything etc.. And that's the reason the FA went over the manager to get rid of him? Capello had no choice, they undermined him, how can he work under those conditions?

It seems to me that even before Cap went into the meeting Bernstein/FA had already made up their mind to sack him. But of course the correct time to do this was immediately after the world cup fiasco in S. Africa. They should have the bollocks to boot him out then.

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by Ross K

It seems to me that even before Cap went into the meeting Bernstein/FA had already made up their mind to sack him. But of course the correct time to do this was immediately after the world cup fiasco in S. Africa. They should have the bollocks to boot him out then.

Agreed, he should of gone after the World Cup. When they go over the manager and get rid of his captain though, there is no way he can carry on and he did the correct thing in leaving. It's like when Abramovich got rid of Wilkins last year and Ancelotti continued, he shouldn't of stuck around after that.

I feel sorry for Redknapp, I don't think any manager can really get England anywhere so he's on a hiding to nothing. I'd much prefer to see him continue what he's doing with Spurs, they're great to watch and have alot of success ahead of them. It would be professional suicide for him to take the England job I think. The National team means nothing to me and the Premier League is everything, to weaken the Premier League so he can try and turn average England into world beaters is going to be a huge loss.

[PED]

Villas-Boas feels England will struggle to find another coach of Capello's calibre – but declared it would be an ''outstanding'' progression were the Football Association to appoint Harry Redknapp.

Saw this quote in the Telegraph and had a good chuckle. Of course, he hopes they hire Redknapp, it's the only way he'll win 3rd place and get Roman off his back...lol Arsene would be pleased too

[forthegame]

There is something in the water here, that makes British sportpersons unable to win big. Maybe the negativity?

Anyway, a few sports are slowly bucking the trend but football cannot scale the heights IMHO. The team is full of overpaid, fragile, egotistical boys. Not even Busby can make them into winners let alone Capello, prior success notwithstanding.

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by forthegame

There is something in the water here, that makes British sportpersons unable to win big. Maybe the negativity?

Anyway, a few sports are slowly bucking the trend but football cannot scale the heights IMHO. The team is full of overpaid, fragile, egotistical boys. Not even Busby can make them into winners let alone Capello, prior success notwithstanding.

It's nothing mental I don't think, they just aren't good enough.

People say Murray hasn't won a major because he's weak mentally, but he just isn't as good as Nadal, Djokovic and Federer playing their semi final/final best as majors.

Nothing to be ashamed of, the England team just isn't anywhere near as good as Spain, Germay, Holland etc..

[NickC]

Originally Posted by forthegame

There is something in the water here, that makes British sportpersons unable to win big. Maybe the negativity?

Anyway, a few sports are slowly bucking the trend but football cannot scale the heights IMHO. The team is full of overpaid, fragile, egotistical boys. Not even Busby can make them into winners let alone Capello, prior success notwithstanding.

You answered your own question! Plus add to the matter that England simply aren't a world class team (no matter what the media says), nor do they have a magnitude of world class players ala France, Germany, Spain, Holland, et all.

As a whole they're unable to win just because they aren't good enough. Simples.


EDIT: Damnit Fena you beat me by a minute! We literally said the same thing too!

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by NickC

You answered your own question! Plus add to the matter that England simply aren't a world class team (no matter what the media says), nor do they have a magnitude of world class players ala France, Germany, Spain, Holland, et all.

As a whole they're unable to win just because they aren't good enough. Simples.


EDIT: Damnit Fena you beat me by a minute! We literally said the same thing too!

We did!

We do pretty well in sport when we have talented people. We were favourites to win the Rugby World Cup in 2003, and did so beating the mighty Australia infront of their home fans. We had to hammer India last summer to become number 1 at cricket, we did it in style. We won the Twenty20 World Cup because we had a quality team etc..

If we had English versions of Xavi, Iniesta, Pique, Silva, Fabregas, Villa, Casillas, Alonso etc.. I'm sure we would be there challenging for the Euro's this summer

[NickC]

Chelsea were AWFUL against Everton. We're trash.

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by NickC

Chelsea were AWFUL against Everton. We're trash.

Newcastle for 4th!

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Feña14

Newcastle for 4th!

Someone's got an interesting way of predicting the future

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by NickC

Someone's got an interesting way of predicting the future

Yeah, I meant Tottenham will score a 4th against them in the evening kick off! I was one out, considering they got a 5th aswell

[NickC]

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[forthegame]

Originally Posted by NickC

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Rio was very lucky there, that could have been life threatening. An accident, two going for the same ball facilitated by a push from Suarez.
I shudder to think how that could have ended...

[Feña14]

Originally Posted by NickC

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They cut it off early! Seeing Ferdinand land on his head and start breakdancing was the best part lol.

[Breaker]

Lol Suarez just runs off like he had nothing to do with it, disgraceful player has every single negative quality one can have on a football pitch. Shame he's so talented.