Upcoming British player escapes prison life sentence.

[babbette]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-evidence.html

[edmondsm]

Man, rough stuff. Tough to comment on.

[oneguy21]

If justice has been served, then good for him. If not, he'll pay the price eventually.

[SaunderS]

Dont think he'll be playing mixed doubles then!

[thejoe]

Originally Posted by SaunderS

Dont think he'll be playing mixed doubles then!

Not the time, dude.

[edmondsm]

These **** cases that never come to fruition happen all too often. Whether the girl is lying or the guy gets away with it, it's a lose-lose situation.

[Dilettante]

Originally Posted by edmondsm

Man, rough stuff. Tough to comment on.

Indeed.

10 char.

[SaunderS]

Obafemi Martins, a Newcastle United(soccer) player was caught doing 106mph in his Porsche. He told the judge - "I had to speed, i was late" and he got away with it.

[origmarm]

Originally Posted by edmondsm

These **** cases that never come to fruition happen all too often. Whether the girl is lying or the guy gets away with it, it's a lose-lose situation.

I agree. It's always a lose-lose when you don't get a conclusion

The thing that bugs me about these is that often the accuser is provided anonymity in the press whereas the accused is not. Or at least that seems to be the case whenever I read about it. Both parties should definitely be provided anonymity, accusations can also wreck lives. Innocent or guilty this will follow this young man around forever.

The problem with many of these cases is that it's unfortunately very difficult to prove. Certainly anyone with the money to hire a good lawyer will usually escape charges. It's very difficult as a type of case.

Then just to make it harder there will be the odd person that will falsely accuse someone and it will come out during the case in some way. These are the ones everyone remembers rather than the successful prosecutions unfortunately. They also serve to establish a precedent for reasonable doubt in witness testimony.

One hopes that people's deeds, good or bad, eventually catch up with them

[nickynu]

Originally Posted by oneguy21

If justice has been served, then good for him. If not, he'll pay the price eventually.

Innocent until proven guilty is the law I believe. Your post actually casts doubt with the IF which is not fair. Think about it.........................
This guys life is pretty much destroyed and he has to live with the stigma il his dying day, how is that right. How would you feel?

[adlis]

Originally Posted by SaunderS

Don't think he'll be playing mixed doubles then!

10/10.

Originally Posted by thejoe

Not the time, dude.

you + sense of humor = FAIL

On a serious note this case reminds me of tennis coach Barry "Butch" Heffernan who has recently been sentenced 5 years for sexually abusing his underage female students
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-girls.html

[SempreSami]

Bromley isn't in Kent anymore.

[Nanshiki]

Originally Posted by thejoe

Not the time, dude.

I think he took the term 'hurt the skirt' too seriously

[dunno]

Why the heck is it that there's so many low life girls that keep accusing rising sports stars of ****.

C'mon, they almost never have evidence and usually it turns out to be a scam so they can make money. Just look at that Duke lacrosse scandal.

And what really annoys me is that if the Duke lacrosse players weren't rich to just defend them selves and prove themselves innocent, they would be in prison and their lives would have been ruined.

[El Guapo]

Originally Posted by dunno

Why the heck is it that there's so many low life girls that keep accusing rising sports stars of ****.

C'mon, they almost never have evidence and usually it turns out to be a scam so they can make money. Just look at that Duke lacrosse scandal.

And what really annoys me is that if the Duke lacrosse players weren't rich to just defend them selves and prove themselves innocent, they would be in prison and their lives would have been ruined.

Very true. So many disgusting *****s out there.

Originally Posted by dunno

Why the heck is it that there's so many low life girls that keep accusing rising sports stars of ****.

C'mon, they almost never have evidence and usually it turns out to be a scam so they can make money. Just look at that Duke lacrosse scandal.

And what really annoys me is that if the Duke lacrosse players weren't rich to just defend them selves and prove themselves innocent, they would be in prison and their lives would have been ruined.

I agree that false accusations are really bad. But it is interesting that you assume that the girl is a low life (bad qualities) and the guy is a "rising sports star" (bit of a stretch to describe this guy IMO). Because of some situations you should not lose your respect for all women. That is just not cool.

[Topaz]

Originally Posted by nickynu

Innocent until proven guilty is the law I believe. Your post actually casts doubt with the IF which is not fair. Think about it.........................
This guys life is pretty much destroyed and he has to live with the stigma il his dying day, how is that right. How would you feel?

Originally Posted by dunno

Why the heck is it that there's so many low life girls that keep accusing rising sports stars of ****.

C'mon, they almost never have evidence and usually it turns out to be a scam so they can make money. Just look at that Duke lacrosse scandal.

And what really annoys me is that if the Duke lacrosse players weren't rich to just defend them selves and prove themselves innocent, they would be in prison and their lives would have been ruined.

Originally Posted by El Guapo

Very true. So many disgusting *****s out there.

What in the world? Where do you guys think you get off saying such things?

First of all, there is *nothing* in that article that suggests that the girl is anything but possibly another college student. Why is she being called names? And, the reason he was cleared was because the prosecutor decided to drop charges, citing a lack of evidence.

We don't know what happened. We certainly also do not know that he is innocent. Do you guys have *any* idea how many women are assaulted and NEVER come forward? One of the reasons is because, unless the victim immediately goes to an ER and gets a *ape kit done, the actual evidence is gone. And the LAST thing a woman wants to do after being violated is to go to an ER and get poked and prodded some more. Then, if they do go, and they do find evidence, it is often the victim that goes through h*ll during the trial. Most cases are never even reported because the victim doesn't want to face her attacker again, much less get dragged through a trial.

How is this guy's life ruined exactly? He was cleared. Whether or not he did it...only he and the girl will know. How about the girl? Where are the sympathetic comments for her? If it actually happened, her life is not exactly roses and peaches from here on out. What about *her* stigma? What about how she would feel?

What if this happened to your sister? Daughter? Mother? Would you guys still type the same distasteful comments? I really wonder about some of the people inhabiting this forum. Disgusting.

[El Guapo]

Originally Posted by Topaz

What in the world? Where do you guys think you get off saying such things?

First of all, there is *nothing* in that article that suggests that the girl is anything but possibly another college student. Why is she being called names? And, the reason he was cleared was because the prosecutor decided to drop charges, citing a lack of evidence.

We don't know what happened. We certainly also do not know that he is innocent. Do you guys have *any* idea how many women are assaulted and NEVER come forward? One of the reasons is because, unless the victim immediately goes to an ER and gets a *ape kit done, the actual evidence is gone. And the LAST thing a woman wants to do after being violated is to go to an ER and get poked and prodded some more. Then, if they do go, and they do find evidence, it is often the victim that goes through h*ll during the trial. Most cases are never even reported because the victim doesn't want to face her attacker again, much less get dragged through a trial.

How is this guy's life ruined exactly? He was cleared. Whether or not he did it...only he and the girl will know. How about the girl? Where are the sympathetic comments for her? If it actually happened, her life is not exactly roses and peaches from here on out. What about *her* stigma? What about how she would feel?

What if this happened to your sister? Daughter? Mother? Would you guys still type the same distasteful comments? I really wonder about some of the people inhabiting this forum. Disgusting.

Kind of like the girl in Colorado who is known for sleeping with anyone at the drop of a hat and who was picked up another guy and slept with him later that same night? Like the girl in North Carolina who went to the ER and was found to have DNA inside her from a known crack dealer from earlier that same day?

The charges were dropped because she was lying. It takes zero evidence to convict a man of r*pe. When it comes to he said/she said, the woman always wins. No more "evidence" is needed.

The case gets dropped when evidence as to the woman's past is discovered.

For you to claim that the guy's life wasn't changed because of this is disgusting. How would you feel if some wh*re accused your son of r*pe and ruined his life?

[dunno]

Originally Posted by Julieta

I agree that false accusations are really bad. But it is interesting that you assume that the girl is a low life (bad qualities) and the guy is a "rising sports star" (bit of a stretch to describe this guy IMO). Because of some situations you should not lose your respect for all women. That is just not cool.

I apologize for assuming that, it's just this situation is becoming so common nowadays I'm a bit jaded.

Originally Posted by Topaz

What in the world? Where do you guys think you get off saying such things?

First of all, there is *nothing* in that article that suggests that the girl is anything but possibly another college student. Why is she being called names? And, the reason he was cleared was because the prosecutor decided to drop charges, citing a lack of evidence.

We don't know what happened. We certainly also do not know that he is innocent. Do you guys have *any* idea how many women are assaulted and NEVER come forward? One of the reasons is because, unless the victim immediately goes to an ER and gets a *ape kit done, the actual evidence is gone. And the LAST thing a woman wants to do after being violated is to go to an ER and get poked and prodded some more. Then, if they do go, and they do find evidence, it is often the victim that goes through h*ll during the trial. Most cases are never even reported because the victim doesn't want to face her attacker again, much less get dragged through a trial.

How is this guy's life ruined exactly? He was cleared. Whether or not he did it...only he and the girl will know. How about the girl? Where are the sympathetic comments for her? If it actually happened, her life is not exactly roses and peaches from here on out. What about *her* stigma? What about how she would feel?

What if this happened to your sister? Daughter? Mother? Would you guys still type the same distasteful comments? I really wonder about some of the people inhabiting this forum. Disgusting.

Do you not believe in innocence until proven guilty??

Thanks for apologizing. I can see becoming jaded but I do think that whenever we (as a society) think something, we should step back and look at it objectively. Besides that, a guy who respects girls will always get the prize girls every time!