Wawrinka new string pattern 16 X 19 - Page 2

DJG · 01-16-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ericsson

Yea Jonny, i think so too, a little hard to see but i see more a 3 then a 2 though

It does indeed look like a "3". Weird.

vsbabolat · 01-16-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 0d1n

I smell some fired staff from the Austrian factory if that's the case.

You maybe right...

Fredrik · 01-16-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vsbabolat

You maybe right...

And according to the Head home page, they are shutting down the tennis ball factory in Phoenix and moving production to China.

More is coming, I'm sure.

vsbabolat · 01-16-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredrik

And according to the Head home page, they are shutting down the tennis ball factory in Phoenix and moving production to China.

More is coming, I'm sure.

Wow!! You are right. http://www.head.com/corporate/news.php?id=1067

Head’s tennis ball factory in Phoenix, Arizona will close on March 5th, 2009. In January 2007 we started to manufacturing tennis balls in our new factory in China. Since this time we have been increasing the volumes produced by this factory, and we have now made the strategic decision to shut our US facility and manufacture our world wide volume from China

0d1n · 01-16-2009, 11:04 PM

Sadly this is the world we live in...

Fredrik · 01-16-2009, 11:06 PM

I am so not enjoying all the aspects of this so-called globalization.

vsbabolat · 01-17-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredrik

I am so not enjoying all the aspects of this so-called globalization.

This is not globalization it is consolidation of manufacturing in China.

Not too long ago you had tennis racquets manufactured in U.S.A., England, Spain, Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, and Singapore (my Yamaha Secret 06 says "Made By Yamaha MFG. Singapore). That is globalization

Fredrik · 01-17-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vsbabolat

This is not globalization it is consolidation of manufacturing in China.

Not too long ago you had tennis racquets manufactured in U.S.A., England, Spain, Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, Italy, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, and Singapore (my Yamaha Secret 06 says "Made By Yamaha MFG. Singapore). That is globalization

I think we agree

Good angle, though, I like the way you think

Note that I said, so-called globalization. It only applies to the money.

kumat63 · 01-17-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 0d1n

I smell some fired staff from the Austrian factory if that's the case.

I'm not sure that follows... the Microgels I have are Austrian made. They have a noticeable amount of lead under the CAP grommets, possibly silicone in the handle and with a leather grip they still weigh less than some of the retail China run frames we flexed and weighed. So the Austrian factory must make them to a lighter spec, which pros would like because it allows a greater range of customization options. There may be other reasons to keep the Austrian factory open too. Hard to say.

Honestly I can't tell any difference at all in the way my Austrian run frames play compared to the retail. But I'm playing them at pretty close to retail specs.

VSBabolat--why do you think Head is pushing so hard to get their players into real Microgels? Are they more sensitive to the paintjob issues than in the past?

crazylevity · 01-17-2009, 08:21 PM

^^ Well I don't know about the pros, but I've felt a real difference in the MIcrogel series. It just feels a lot more solid than the LM and FXP range. It could be that the pros have tried it and liked it enough, such that they want the Microgel and just match it to their old weight and balance.

nadal for number1 · 01-17-2009, 08:29 PM

pretty wierd he would change having pretty good results in 08 w the denser string pattern

Cl1ntrock · 01-18-2009, 02:18 PM

but the Microgel is weird..i got some tgk238.1 here at home..and it vibrates like hell its unstable and bad power and..the MID plays stock completely different..i am waiting for the Speed Pro..see what nole comes around with...

kumat63 · 01-19-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crazylevity

^^ Well I don't know about the pros, but I've felt a real difference in the MIcrogel series. It just feels a lot more solid than the LM and FXP range. It could be that the pros have tried it and liked it enough, such that they want the Microgel and just match it to their old weight and balance.

I agree with you that the Microgel Prestige feels much better than the LM and FXP. I was comparing Austrian run MGs to the Chinese made retail version and saying they both felt the same--quite good--to me. Very few pros played the LM or FXP Prestiges--they were almost all playing old PT630/280 painted like LM or FXP, so it is interesting a number seem to have actually switched to real Microgel Prestiges.

PurePrestige · 01-19-2009, 07:14 PM

Hmm I am interested in Wawrinka's switch to a open pattern. He has been playing well to begin with.
Mainly I'm wondering if it will have the same effect as Murray. Murray lowered his swingweight a bit and switched to the open pattern and he has made great strides. Maybe we are in for Wawrinka making some leaps in his game.

0d1n · 01-20-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PurePrestige

Hmm I am interested in Wawrinka's switch to a open pattern. He has been playing well to begin with.
Mainly I'm wondering if it will have the same effect as Murray. Murray lowered his swingweight a bit and switched to the open pattern and he has made great strides. Maybe we are in for Wawrinka making some leaps in his game.

As far as I saw the "throat piece" is the same on the prestige pro and the MP (i.e the PRO has 8 mains in the throat just like the MP). It's the same with the Dunlop AG 16x19.
As a result, the string pattern is not THAT open even if it's 16x19...in fact ... in the sweet spot it might be quite similar in response to an 18x20. There might be a small difference in the distance between the crosses, but the mains are not that far apart in the sweet area on the Prestige Pro.

PED · 01-20-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 0d1n

As far as I saw the "throat piece" is the same on the prestige pro and the MP (i.e the PRO has 8 mains in the throat just like the MP).

That's an excellent point and one that I've not thought of. Just curious have you ever measured the distance between the central mains on the mp versus the pro (I haven't). It looks like the 2 mains in the center of the MP are a bit tighter than that of the Pro but that just may be the photo making it look that way.

here's the pro: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/view...tml?PCODE=MGPP

here's the mp: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/view...html?PCODE=MGP

01-17-2009, 08:21 PM	#30
crazylevity Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,979	^^ Well I don't know about the pros, but I've felt a real difference in the MIcrogel series. It just feels a lot more solid than the LM and FXP range. It could be that the pros have tried it and liked it enough, such that they want the Microgel and just match it to their old weight and balance. __________________ Microgel Prestige Pro, Big Banger Original 58lbs adidas Barricade IV

01-17-2009, 08:29 PM	#31
nadal for number1 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 315	pretty wierd he would change having pretty good results in 08 w the denser string pattern __________________ 4 head microgel prestige pro (TGK 238.2)

01-19-2009, 07:14 PM	#34
PurePrestige Semi-Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 513	Hmm I am interested in Wawrinka's switch to a open pattern. He has been playing well to begin with. Mainly I'm wondering if it will have the same effect as Murray. Murray lowered his swingweight a bit and switched to the open pattern and he has made great strides. Maybe we are in for Wawrinka making some leaps in his game. __________________ Be awed at the sight of my prowess.

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