The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread

Originally Posted by soyizgood

Sharapova was in GOAT mode in the 1st set against Kerber. Now if she could only play that way against Serena.....

It wouldnt matter since Serena always enters her GOAT mode too when she plays Maria, she hates Maria with a passion and plays like she has a firecracker up her *** each time, and Serena's GOAT mode > Sharapova's.

[Tafmatch]

Does Serena really hate Maria so much? Why?

[boredone3456]

Originally Posted by Tafmatch

Does Serena really hate Maria so much? Why?

I don't think Serena hates her. I think she remembers what it was like.to lose to her at Wimbledon and doesn't want to repeat the experience.

Some of Serena's fans however seem hate her for committing the crime of beating Serena at a major.

[Ico]

I think she does kind of hate her though and there has to be a sense of jealousy involved. Serena is the far better tennis player, but she's watched Maria become a star (thanks to her partially) and make far more money because of her good looks.

Focusing on today's tennis, Li Na's new coach is a miracle worker. Not going down in flames at home? Unthinkable.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Kerber-Sharapova is almost a toss up. Kerber seems to prefer playing players who hit harder than her where she can counterpunch rather than be forced to be the agressor. Good chance of an upset for Kerber, Maria isnt playing that well lately but does a good job fighting and bluffing her way through often.

Li is crap in Asia as you in the other thread, ErrorNa shows up in a big way on that continent. Radwanska wins. Li wont be that motivated knowing she is already into the WTA final anyway, and finally achieved her goal of a Premier Mandatory title this summer. She is a player who can only motivate herself on select occasions.

Great picks! Don't buy a lottery ticket today if your above picks are any indication! (wrong on both counts)

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by -RF-

Is Radwanska the mentally strongest in the current top 10? Thoughts? I agree though at times she needs to be more agressive

No way.

Serena Williams and Sharapova are the most mentally strong players in the top ten. Azarenka never used to be mentally strong but she has improved a lot in that area so she would be the third imo.

[volleyandfun]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

I don't think Serena hates her. I think she remembers what it was like.to lose to her at Wimbledon and doesn't want to repeat the experience.

Some of Serena's fans however seem hate her for committing the crime of beating Serena at a major.

Don't forget the AO incident, Maria hitting overhead shot directly at juicy plum body of Serena, and then large screen replay showing Serena's lips saying "you b***ch"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Qea_uBBAU

[jamesblakefan#1]

Originally Posted by boredone3456

I don't think Serena hates her. I think she remembers what it was like.to lose to her at Wimbledon and doesn't want to repeat the experience.

Some of Serena's fans however seem hate her for committing the crime of beating Serena at a major.

Really, because Stosur, Razzano, Bartoli, Makarova, Jankovic, Clijsters, Henin, etc all get hate as well? Of that list maybe Henin is the only one that gets flak, but we all know what that's from (the hand incident).

Any flak Masha gets probably has more to do with her 1D style of play and screeching ways than anything. I know I've seen plenty on here who aren't fans of either player but root for Serena in their matches bc Masha's game is so damn unlikable. FWIW....

OK, statute of limitations is off. Yes, Serena has extra desire against Sharapova. My sources tell me that it's less about the tennis than the endorsements. Williams knows that Sharapova, despite her inferior accomplishments, earns appreciably more in off-court income. Members of Serena's entourage have even been known to needle her, telling her, "You made Maria the star she is. You created the monster!" (Translation: Serena's failure to beat Sharapova in the 2004 Wimbledon final gave rise to Sugarpova and all that.) Serena's results against Sharapova tell it all.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ten...#ixzz1rlFGWdbn

[soyizgood]

Kerber will never win a major for as long as she whittles in the face of adversity. Her composure (lack of) in the Sharapova match just gives me more reason to argue Errani should be the Most Improved Player.

[Brian11785]

Originally Posted by soyizgood

Kerber will never win a major for as long as she whittles in the face of adversity. Her composure (lack of) in the Sharapova match just gives me more reason to argue Errani should be the Most Improved Player.

She is probably my favorite player to watch at the moment, but she can be a real sourpuss at times. The QF against Lisicki at Wimbledon was horrendous. The fact that she ended up winning the match after playing the third set with such negative body language and attitude is a testament to how poorly Lisicki can play for stretches.

[soyizgood]

Wow! Sharapova just made 3 straight DFs....

Now Li has made back-to-back DFs... Now I remember why I hate this particular matchup. It is downright dreadful... 3 DFs this game for Li and now we're at deuce. Ugh!!!!

Absolutely no rhythm in this match.

[boredone3456]

Originally Posted by jamesblakefan#1

Really, because Stosur, Razzano, Bartoli, Makarova, Jankovic, Clijsters, Henin, etc all get hate as well? Of that list maybe Henin is the only one that gets flak, but we all know what that's from (the hand incident).

Any flak Masha gets probably has more to do with her 1D style of play and screeching ways than anything. I know I've seen plenty on here who aren't fans of either player but root for Serena in their matches bc Masha's game is so damn unlikable. FWIW....

I probably should have beaten Serena to win a major. Since she became the best in the world ability wise some fans (not all, I am a Serena fan in the sense that when she turns it on she is exciting to watch)...anytime she loses always gets written off. Henin is in some minds nothing but a clay court specialist and Sharapova a brainless ball basher. Henin was openly ridiculed in her comeback as well. All those others all get written off as flukes because they were on clay or because Serena was injured.

Clijsters seemed to have escaped because in 2010 and 2011 she was the only strong alternative to Wozniacki and the rest of the crazy brigade.

Not all fans are like this..I am not per se a Masha fan, and Henins 2007 Wimbledon tanking was an utterly disgusting thing, and the hand incident.does not help either...but they both recieve a lot hate and happy dancing whenever they lose from certain posters.

[Ico]

So Masha is humbled by Vika in Beijing 3 and 1. Ouch. This is the first time in Maria's career that she's gone an entire calendar year without winning a hard-court title (runner-up at AO, IW, Miami, and Beijing). A few more terrible losses to Serena and Vika and we'll have to start wondering how much longer she'll stick around on tour.

[Doublebounce]

Originally Posted by Ico

So Masha is humbled by Vika in Beijing 3 and 1. Ouch. This is the first time in Maria's career that she's gone an entire calendar year without winning a hard-court title (runner-up at AO, IW, Miami, and Beijing). A few more terrible losses to Serena and Vika and we'll have to start wondering how much longer she'll stick around on tour.

She is number 2 in the world and is getting to the semis or finals consistently. I dont think we will have to worry about her sticking around on tour.

[Ico]

I don't think semis mean much to Maria. She wants to win, and titles are not coming easily anymore. She certainly has a future beyond tennis and I don't think she ever planned to play until 30. I'm not saying she's calling it quits next year, but I could see another slam-less year wearing her down.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by Ico

I don't think semis mean much to Maria. She wants to win, and titles are not coming easily anymore. She certainly has a future beyond tennis and I don't think she ever planned to play until 30. I'm not saying she's calling it quits next year, but I could see another slam-less year wearing her down.

It weird that for the last two years she has been one of the best claycourters....winning 5 titles on the dirt.

Who knows....maybe she can pull another RG.

[Ico]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

It weird that for the last two years she has been one of the best claycourters....winning 5 titles on the dirt.

Who knows....maybe she can pull another RG.

I count 4 titles. The fact that 5 of her last 6 titles come from clay, the sole exception being a very ugly win at Cincy 2011, emphasize my point that she isn't a favorite at most tournaments anymore. Shockingly, she didn't even win a set in her 5 hard court finals this year. Constantly falling short may wear on the mind, and we've seen her trademark steeliness desert her this year.

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

It wouldnt matter since Serena always enters her GOAT mode too when she plays Maria, she hates Maria with a passion and plays like she has a firecracker up her *** each time, and Serena's GOAT mode > Sharapova's.

It ain't that simple, sunshine.

Originally Posted by cc0509

No way.

Serena Williams and Sharapova are the most mentally strong players in the top ten. Azarenka never used to be mentally strong but she has improved a lot in that area so she would be the third imo.

Serena Williams cannot be considered mentally strong considering that her "choking" is the first excuse, whenever she is in danger in a big match. (losing a set to Radnwanska in Wimbledon, losing to Stosur, almost losing to Azarenka, losing to Razzano) Trust me, I follow that WTA forum sometimes, that's what they were saying in the live commentary threads.

Originally Posted by soyizgood

Kerber will never win a major for as long as she whittles in the face of adversity. Her composure (lack of) in the Sharapova match just gives me more reason to argue Errani should be the Most Improved Player.

Errani is one of the most obvious juicers in recent history. worked with del Moral, suddenly improved out of nowhere to reach 2 semis and 1 QF while doing nothing else in the year.

Kerber might theoretically be on the juice as well but with her, it is far more likely that he is simply hitting her stride now. She is younger than Errani IIRC and she did more outside of the big events which makes the PED angle less likely.

Originally Posted by Ico

I count 4 titles. The fact that 5 of her last 6 titles come from clay, the sole exception being a very ugly win at Cincy 2011, emphasize my point that she isn't a favorite at most tournaments anymore. Shockingly, she didn't even win a set in her 5 hard court finals this year. Constantly falling short may wear on the mind, and we've seen her trademark steeliness desert her this year.

No we didn't. She had NUMEROUS nailbiter wins she had no business of winning.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by dangalak

Serena Williams cannot be considered mentally strong considering that her "choking" is the first excuse, whenever she is in danger in a big match. (losing a set to Radnwanska in Wimbledon, losing to Stosur, almost losing to Azarenka, losing to Razzano) Trust me, I follow that WTA forum sometimes, that's what they were saying in the live commentary threads.

A player who has won 15 slams is not mentally strong? That is silly. Of course she is mentally strong and definitely the strongest mentally out of the women's players today. Sharapova is mentally strong as well, except when she plays Serena and then all of her belief is out the door from all of the beatings Serena has given her over the years.

[dangalak]

Originally Posted by cc0509

A player who has won 15 slams is not mentally strong? That is silly. Of course she is mentally strong and definitely the strongest mentally out of the women's players today. Sharapova is mentally strong as well, except when she plays Serena and then all of her belief is out the door from all of the beatings Serena has given her over the years.

I don't see how you could think that mentality is to blame for Maria's losses.

Serena isn't all that mentally strong RIGHT NOW, or at least not as much as certain parts of her fanbase claim she is. How else do you explain that "she is choking" is the first thing that they say, whenever she is struggling against a player she dominated in the first set?