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Yevgeny Kafelnikov 11 19.30%
Sergei Bruguera 5 8.77%
Marat Safin 1 1.75%
Patrick Rafter 5 8.77%
Lleyton Hewitt 4 7.02%
Johan Kriek 22 38.60%
Stan Smith 0 0%
Jan Kodes 5 8.77%
Ilie Nastase 0 0%
other 4 7.02%
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:30 PM   #1
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Who do you feel is the weakest mens players to win atleast 2 slam titles.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:38 PM   #2
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This is tough...I don't know enough pre open era on the small guys so I am stuck open era it is not Nasty definitely and not Ashe who probably should have had more. There is Kodes he is in consideration, Villas was very deserving of his, wait nevermind I got the answer.

JOHAN KRIEK.

He won those 2 Australian Opens with fields lacking most powerful forces. He made little to no damage at any other slam except the Aussie with such a depleted field. Nobody is less deserving than him.
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I voted for Kafelnikov. I have seen him play many times and I was never once all that impressed. He had the easiest draws imaginable to win his 2 slams and never even won a Masters title. I dont believe he ever had a big win at a grand slam. His biggest win ever was probably Krajicek or Todd Martin at a hard court slam, that is it. Those are decent wins, but not for your biggest grand slam wins ever. I would rate beating Krajicek or Martin in a hard court slam over beating Stich or Sampras at the French Open btw (or Krajicek who Kafelnikov also beat to win the French, that was his quarterfinal to final draw to win the French, see what I mean).
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:01 PM   #4
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This is tough...I don't know enough pre open era on the small guys so I am stuck open era it is not Nasty definitely and not Ashe who probably should have had more. There is Kodes he is in consideration, Villas was very deserving of his, wait nevermind I got the answer.

JOHAN KRIEK.

He won those 2 Australian Opens with fields lacking most powerful forces. He made little to no damage at any other slam except the Aussie with such a depleted field. Nobody is less deserving than him.
kriek was a consistent top tenner for a few years there without ever really making much impact against the top guys borg,mcenroe,lendl or connors.
won about 15 atp titles in his career and got to the semi's at roland garros one year but got obliterated by lendl, winning a total of 3 games.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:24 AM   #5
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I like Kriek, but that's who I voted for.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:40 AM   #6
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No idea.....
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:57 AM   #7
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Where is Rafael Nadal :P
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Of the ones listed

1. Kriek
2. Kodes

But I bet there were weaker players to do this if one looks at the full list of GS winners.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:39 AM   #9
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Yevgeny Kafelnikov.
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This is tough...I don't know enough pre open era on the small guys so I am stuck open era it is not Nasty definitely and not Ashe who probably should have had more. There is Kodes he is in consideration, Villas was very deserving of his, wait nevermind I got the answer.

JOHAN KRIEK.

He won those 2 Australian Opens with fields lacking most powerful forces. He made little to no damage at any other slam except the Aussie with such a depleted field. Nobody is less deserving than him.
He made the semi's at the US Open in 1980. He was up 2 sets to none over Borg, but then Borg steamrolled him in the last 3 sets.

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Old 04-13-2009, 11:03 AM   #11
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Kodes made 2 U.S Open finals with a string of big upsets before falling to Smith and Newcombe, the two top players at the time, in 5 setters in both finals. Ironically he beat Smith and Newcombe on the way to the finals in each opposing year. This was on grass but his best surface by far was clay where he won 2 Frenchs. Of course his Wimbledon was a joke with the boycott. Still I imagine he was a pretty good players atleast.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:20 PM   #12
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No players who have won two slams are weak.
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No players who have won two slams are weak.
"Weakest" is being used here as a relative term. Doesn't mean that, e.g., anyone thinks Kriek was a weak player, just that, compared to the other guys who've won 2 slams, he's not as strong as they are.
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He made the semi's at the US Open in 1980. He was up 2 sets to none over Borg, but then Borg steamrolled him in the last 3 sets.

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so besides his 2 australian titles he made the semi's at both the french and us opens losing to lendl & borg.
i'm guessing his best at wimbledon was probably quarters, overall a good player...with enough research i think there's a likelyhood of finding someone with lesser credentials.
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No love for Yevgeny?.. The man could play some nice tennis when he wanted to.
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so besides his 2 australian titles he made the semi's at both the french and us opens losing to lendl & borg.
i'm guessing his best at wimbledon was probably quarters, overall a good player...with enough research i think there's a likelyhood of finding someone with lesser credentials.
good luck finding.

He had one semi at france
one semi at us which he choked away
and i think it is two quarters at wimbledon.

He did not win his slams against any of the big forces in his era. At least Kalfenikov and Brug beat big names. Hewitt also made other strong runs at slams and was world number 1. He beat a couple good players on his US Open run and won a lot more titles than him. Kodes made more of an impact, I don't see anyone who could possible be the weakest unless you go back prior to the 1950s.
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No love for Yevgeny?.. The man could play some nice tennis when he wanted to.
Look at his draws to win his 2 slams. Krajicek, Sampras, and Stich on clay. Not a single remotedly top clay courter. Then his Australian Open title was Martin (who was injured for that match but Yevgeny owned anyway), younger Haas, and Enqvist in the final. Sorry but those are a joke. 10x easier than the dream draws you keep saying Federer gets. When your biggest ever win in a grand slam is Sampras on clay or Todd Martin on hard courts, then you were lucky to ever scrape out 2 majors.
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My Gut instinct is to go with Kafelnikov. He was a good player, but he was the first one I thought of before even opening the thread. Kriek is probably 2nd.
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Where is Rafael Nadal :P
Try looking in the greatest of all time thread. :P
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Look at his draws to win his 2 slams. Krajicek, Sampras, and Stich on clay. Not a single remotedly top clay courter. Then his Australian Open title was Martin (who was injured for that match but Yevgeny owned anyway), younger Haas, and Enqvist in the final. Sorry but those are a joke. 10x easier than the dream draws you keep saying Federer gets. When your biggest ever win in a grand slam is Sampras on clay or Todd Martin on hard courts, then you were lucky to ever scrape out 2 majors.
Oh come on.. Pete was playing some great tennis at the 96 RG. He took out COurier and Bruguera that year.
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