Variety is gone in todays game, now the same players win on every surface too.Boring!

morten · 05-11-2009, 12:43 PM

Not only is the volley, touch, and brains gone. The same players can win tournaments on all surfaces now. I miss the times when there was clay specialists, grass and carpet specialists... I mean even Blake and Djokovic do so well on clay, it is just the same no mather what surface, and i Love Nadal, but for those strokes to win the Wimbledon title..c`mon, Tennis is so one dimentional now, the way the robot tennis is now being played, it should be called something else..

Nadalator · 05-11-2009, 12:48 PM

Yeah I miss the days where Sampras sucked on clay

All-rounder · 05-11-2009, 12:56 PM

Djokovic is good on clay at the present he is the only one who can rival nadal on clay. As for blake he was never good and clay he just made a lucky run in this years estoril open

seffina · 05-11-2009, 12:57 PM

It sucks. Let's all stop watching in protest. That'll teach them.

icedevil0289 · 05-11-2009, 01:00 PM

djokovic does well on clay because he is good on clay. Although I do agree that there is not the match variety anymore.

cliff · 05-11-2009, 01:19 PM

Murray has the most diverse game, he really enjoys finding the tactic that will mess his opponent up, here are some Murray clips to enjoy http://www.procomparetennis.net/sear...eos:all/Murray

RoddickAce · 05-11-2009, 01:41 PM

Tennis would benefit a lot if someone like Edberg shows up, with all the exciting net plays that don't end in 2 or 3 shots max.

Blade0324 · 05-11-2009, 02:03 PM

Well get ready to flame me I guess. I actually much prefer today's game to the older styles. I like baseline play and longer points. I'm not a S&V fan to play or watch it's just what I consider boring just as the OP considers baseline play boring. I guess to each their own.

icedevil0289 · 05-11-2009, 02:13 PM

[quote=Blade0324;3408440]Well get ready to flame me I guess. I actually much prefer today's game to the older styles. I like baseline play and longer points. I'm not a S&V fan to play or watch it's just what I consider boring just as the OP considers baseline play boring. I guess to each their own.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree, which is why I'm always complaining about how the surfaces are becoming more and more similar and encouraging baseline play and longer points. I have always said that there should be more variety, surfaces that encourage longer rallies and baseline play for those who enjoy it like you, and faster surfaces that encourage s&v for those who enjoy that style.

GameSampras · 05-11-2009, 02:16 PM

Nope no variety. Tennis today consists of baseline borfests and mindless ball bashing with no strategy and wait for the other player to get an Unforced Error. Thats pretty much the game of tennis today. And thats what is making players to accel on every surface today. The game is essentially PLAYED THE SAME ON EVERY SURFACE.

Its a shame really.. But thats what the game has evolved too. No changing that

sh@de · 05-11-2009, 07:45 PM

I agree with OP. I'm not saying I necessarily want all surfaces to suddenly encourage S&V and touch volleys and more thinking etc., I just think we should have more of a balance. There should be your usual nice, slow clay surfaces (which I enjoy watching very much) where rallies are long, and baseline play dominates. And then there should be your real quick indoor / grass courts where S&V dominates and skills at the net really count. And then there should be the in betweens, the hard courts, which allow for both types of play. That way, there will be real variety, something that today's game really does seem to lack.

Blade0324 · 05-11-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GameSampras

Nope no variety. Tennis today consists of baseline borfests and mindless ball bashing with no strategy and wait for the other player to get an Unforced Error. Thats pretty much the game of tennis today. And thats what is making players to accel on every surface today. The game is essentially PLAYED THE SAME ON EVERY SURFACE.

Its a shame really.. But thats what the game has evolved too. No changing that

See for me this is what has made the game more exciting. I don't think that they are boring at all and I find there to be much more strategy on how to force the other player into making an error by going for too much or giving a weak reply. I find S&V tennis to incorporate no strategy. Just serve and run at the net like a comicozy.

Blade0324 · 05-11-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sh@de

I agree with OP. I'm not saying I necessarily want all surfaces to suddenly encourage S&V and touch volleys and more thinking etc., I just think we should have more of a balance. There should be your usual nice, slow clay surfaces (which I enjoy watching very much) where rallies are long, and baseline play dominates. And then there should be your real quick indoor / grass courts where S&V dominates and skills at the net really count. And then there should be the in betweens, the hard courts, which allow for both types of play. That way, there will be real variety, something that today's game really does seem to lack.

See for me I like the fact that the surfaces are more similar now than in the past. It allows the players to play on an even field so to speak and the better players win.

The-Champ · 05-11-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GameSampras

Nope no variety. Tennis today consists of baseline borfests and mindless ball bashing with no strategy and wait for the other player to get an Unforced Error. Thats pretty much the game of tennis today. And thats what is making players to accel on every surface today. The game is essentially PLAYED THE SAME ON EVERY SURFACE.

Its a shame really.. But thats what the game has evolved too. No changing that

the strategy is to make your opponent miss to return the ball in play. It's been the same for ages. Are we watching the same sport?

seffina · 05-11-2009, 07:54 PM

I quite like tennis now. I enjoyed it before as well, but I like today's tennis just as much. I don't want to live in the past and I find the essence of the game to be just as attractive as always.

I understand if it boring to some and they're free to not watch or watch and complain, but I don't really see how it's any less exciting personally.

prosealster · 05-11-2009, 08:21 PM

same winners because they essentially slowed the grass and hard court so all surface essentially played at similiar speeds...so provided u can move equally well on all surfaces....then u'll have similar success on all surfaces

JoshDragon · 05-11-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GameSampras

Nope no variety. Tennis today consists of baseline borfests and mindless ball bashing with no strategy and wait for the other player to get an Unforced Error. Thats pretty much the game of tennis today. And thats what is making players to accel on every surface today. The game is essentially PLAYED THE SAME ON EVERY SURFACE.

Its a shame really.. But thats what the game has evolved too. No changing that

It's a shame that you are so heavily biased towards the 90s tennis players and Pete Sampras. Sometimes, you come up with very good posts but there are a lot like this one as well.

Do you honestly watch much of today's tennis?

BreakPoint · 05-11-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Champ

the strategy is to make your opponent miss to return the ball in play. It's been the same for ages. Are we watching the same sport?

Incorrect. The strategy used to be to hit a winning volley at the net.

BreakPoint · 05-11-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by morten

Not only is the volley, touch, and brains gone. The same players can win tournaments on all surfaces now. I miss the times when there was clay specialists, grass and carpet specialists... I mean even Blake and Djokovic do so well on clay, it is just the same no mather what surface, and i Love Nadal, but for those strokes to win the Wimbledon title..c`mon, Tennis is so one dimentional now, the way the robot tennis is now being played, it should be called something else..

I totally agree!

Blame it on the modern rocket launcher racquets and spin monster poly strings. Go back to wood racquets and gut strings and we'll get the variety back. Borg versus McEnroe anyone?

veroniquem · 05-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade0324

See for me this is what has made the game more exciting. I don't think that they are boring at all and I find there to be much more strategy on how to force the other player into making an error by going for too much or giving a weak reply. I find S&V tennis to incorporate no strategy. Just serve and run at the net like a comicozy.

Exactly, serve and volley was much more mechanical than baseline tennis where you have to construct points, change pace and directions, vary angles and make decisions about when and how to attack. Classic S and V was serve that can hardly been returned by the opponent (thrown off balance), then capitalize on that by putting the ball away at the net: 1-2, no strategy, the returner doesn't do much, waits until it's his turn to serve: no drama, no excitement, no place for spectacular defense. The variations between defense and offense in longer rallies are more engrossing.

05-11-2009, 12:43 PM	#1
morten Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,901	Variety is gone in todays game, now the same players win on every surface too.Boring! Not only is the volley, touch, and brains gone. The same players can win tournaments on all surfaces now. I miss the times when there was clay specialists, grass and carpet specialists... I mean even Blake and Djokovic do so well on clay, it is just the same no mather what surface, and i Love Nadal, but for those strokes to win the Wimbledon title..c`mon, Tennis is so one dimentional now, the way the robot tennis is now being played, it should be called something else..

05-11-2009, 12:56 PM	#3
All-rounder Legend Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Transitional era Posts: 5,264	Djokovic is good on clay at the present he is the only one who can rival nadal on clay. As for blake he was never good and clay he just made a lucky run in this years estoril open __________________ RO(bin)SO(der)L(in) rises from the dead

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icedevil0289 Legend Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,739	djokovic does well on clay because he is good on clay. Although I do agree that there is not the match variety anymore. __________________ "Nikolay, did you sleep alone last night?" "I'm married! You think 2, 3, 4 girls? I'm Russian but not Safin."

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05-11-2009, 02:13 PM	#9
icedevil0289 Legend Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,739	[quote=Blade0324;3408440]Well get ready to flame me I guess. I actually much prefer today's game to the older styles. I like baseline play and longer points. I'm not a S&V fan to play or watch it's just what I consider boring just as the OP considers baseline play boring. I guess to each their own.[/QUOTE] I completely agree, which is why I'm always complaining about how the surfaces are becoming more and more similar and encouraging baseline play and longer points. I have always said that there should be more variety, surfaces that encourage longer rallies and baseline play for those who enjoy it like you, and faster surfaces that encourage s&v for those who enjoy that style. __________________ "Nikolay, did you sleep alone last night?" "I'm married! You think 2, 3, 4 girls? I'm Russian but not Safin."