Can someone post videos of 4.0 and 4.5 players???

[Solat]

Originally Posted by nfor304

Just found this
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/defau...=4&pageId=7853

I dont think its widely used though

it should be used for all standardised league competitions, I know it certainly is the basis for all player rankings in WA & SA

[Shangri La]

Originally Posted by NamRanger

It depends on where you live. Because a 4.5 Southern California player or a Florida player is completely different from a 4.5 from a oh say, Minnesota.



This is about right though : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KspyZ...e=channel_page

something must be wrong with me.

I dont see these guys being anyhting less than 5.0

[nfor304]

Originally Posted by Solat

it should be used for all standardised league competitions, I know it certainly is the basis for all player rankings in WA & SA

I play in NSW and I've never seen it used anywhere for competitions or leagues, though I havent played anything like that for about 4 years since I mainly just play tournaments.

The only time I remember seeing it at all was at the Sydney International where they had a clinic type thing to grade people

[Bud]

Originally Posted by Shangri La

something must be wrong with me.

I dont see these guys being anyhting less than 5.0

I disagree. I could put up a fight with these two and I'm somewhere between a 4 and 4.5.

A 5.0 (open player) player could (and has) kicked my butt, 6-0, 6-0. Actually a number of Open (5.0+) players have spanked me pretty badly. They are completely different animals than these two shown on the video.

IMO, the guys shown are solid 4-4.5 players, however.

[Bellagizmo]

Originally Posted by Bellagizmo

Indoors I could probably beat those guys in the above video...my fitness and conditioning is not in top shape for the outdoor heat yet...

I take it back...these guys would probably beat me 2 and 2 easy...

[jasonjm]

Originally Posted by Shangri La

something must be wrong with me.

I dont see these guys being anyhting less than 5.0

you must be joking

if you watch that video, the receivers high, short, slow slice return of serve at 11 seconds would 50% of the time be hit with an outright winner by a USTA 5.0 here in Southern California.

the other 50% it would be a difficult punishing shot to get back.

but if you watch that rally the server literally does nothing with the ball, no angle, no pace, doesn't run up to net, nothing..... just politely hits the shot back to the opponents forehand - not even the backhand.

As for the rest of the rally, there are numerous short slow balls hit by both players that would have been killed by a 5.0 player

at 27 seconds, guy closer to us gets presented with a sitting duck short shot down the middle (bounces in the middle of the service box) and literally hits an even shorter worse shot to the opponent which gives the other guy a great chance to slice approach the net, 2 bad shots in a row.

These guys are IMO very consistent 4.0s or low 4.5s (lack of weapons on both sides)

[Shangri La]

You can always find some 'weak shots' when watching someone else play, at any level, even in Federer's matches. If anyone knows which tournament it was, then we will have an idea what level these guys are supposed to be at. If it was a national event, you can even find out who these guys are and their ratings.

[Shangri La]

take a look at the blue shirt guy's serve motion, smooth strokes, and footwork, no way can he be a 4.5, much less 4.0. actually it wouldnt surprise me if he played at 5.5+ level at a younger age.