Genesis Black Magic

[mikeler]

As a main in a hybrid, I thought BM was too springy and lacked the spin of other polys. Perhaps a full job is where this string shines.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by mikeler

As a main in a hybrid, I thought BM was too springy and lacked the spin of other polys. Perhaps a full job is where this string shines.

Yes, that's correct. Full bed all the way is the way to go with this string. With a hybrid, the nylon would just increase string friction and reduce spin, as well as adding an unnecessary amount of power, neither of which is necessary with this string. It would be like watering down champagne

[blackfrido]

Originally Posted by Torres

LOL, a minute ago you were saying it was the worse string in the world, now you're saying its average.

Forgive me, if I don't take your credibility seriously.

what about in between? It's really bad for me, just for me. Is that clear now?

[Torres]

Played 2 ratings matches earlier today with a Wilson Juice Pro strung with Genesis Black Magic 17. Two hard fought wins; 30% satifisfaction, 70% relief, and 0% fun.

But I am absolutely loving this string.

The blend of spin, power, control, forgiveness and variety of shotmaking is just fantastic and complements the solid, beefy heft of the racquet perfectly. I just love ripping the ball with this string.

At times during my two matches, I did occasionally hanker for a solid flatter hitting string like the Discho Iontec Salmon, particularly in situations where I want to flatten the ball and hit through the court for an attempted winner, rather than the greater spin orientation of Black Magic, but horses for courses really because I don't think I would trade Iontec's flatter hitting for Black Magic's variety and spin (and margins), even if the latter doesn't feel as satisfying at thumping a flat ball through the court. But I do now have a 5-0 matchplay record with this string, so its none too shabby in terms of results.

In terms of tension 50lbs CP does feel a bit low for the stick I use and my style of play though. My vibe damp was more of an 'O' shape rather than an '0'. Going back to my original 52lbs which offers bit more control at the marginal expense of some power.

Just a real shame really that the string dies so quick. It at its best when fresh, and given that it seems to lose a fair bit of tension, a starting tension of 52lbs seems to better to me than 50lbs. Well suited to tournament play, because its at its best when fresh, so you can string up a couple racquets before a tournament and everything's good to go. Like I say though, its just a shame that performance seems to drop off so quickly and the string go dead (for me anyway).

Even though I have a reel of 17, I'm going to buy a couple of sets of 16 to see how that differs.

Kudos to Drakulie for starting his thread about this string (which brought it to my attention) and sticking to his guns with regard to his (and RSI's) positive opinion of this string.

[Chotobaka]

Originally Posted by Torres

Yes, that's correct. Full bed all the way is the way to go with this string. With a hybrid, the nylon would just increase string friction and reduce spin, as well as adding an unnecessary amount of power, neither of which is necessary with this string. It would be like watering down champagne

Co-sign. BM has been in my string rotation since it was first introduced. I have used it on a wide variety of racquets and at different tensions. I've tried hybrids, but always come back to a full bed. Not only does it perform better, as Torres indicated, but hybrids are no more benign. There is no reason not to go full bed.

[zapvor]

i didint like black magic in my main setup. too mushy. black hex and heptonic are what i prefer. but i snap both in less than 10hrs =/

[Torres]

Originally Posted by zapvor

i didint like black magic in my main setup. too mushy. black hex and heptonic are what i prefer.

Sure. Everyone has their own tastes. But if you want a firmer stringbed, string it higher because the string is actually comfortable yet crisp at higher tension (or should I say, higher mid tensions) and definitely not mushy, particularly when you hit through the strings. And just to lend some context to your comments, you're that NTRP 2.0 guy with the baggy pants that repeatedly posts indoor match videos in the Tips/Instruction section are you not? Videos that show you repeatedly hitting the ball into the ceiling, into the side fence, hitting the ball long, into the net, with high pitched squeeling with every miss etc. I agree that Black Magic definitely isn't for you.

[JackB1]

how can this string be usable for rec players, since it dies so quickly?

[Torres]

Originally Posted by JackB1

how can this string be usable for rec players, since it dies so quickly?

What do you mean? If you're referring to it not lasting weeks or months at a time, then just restring it. Obviously no one wants to spend money if they don't have to but roughly $10 a week is not going to break the bank. At the end of the day its individual choice. Some people won't mind that cost for the performance it offers. Some people may prefer something longer lasting and trade some performance. Others will play with a dead poly. Polys don't generally last a long time unfortunately.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by JackB1

how can this string be usable for rec players, since it dies so quickly?

Agree, jack. people doesn't like to cut out the string after just few hours of play. It doesn't matter if it only costs $10. For the string to be considered premium, it should play for at least 10-12 hours and retain playability.

[Torres]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

For the string to be considered premium, it should play for at least 10-12 hours and retain playability.

Then people need to stop buying RPM Blast or Lux Alu because according to your phenomenally flawed definition, they are not premium strings.

[Murray_fan1]

Originally Posted by Torres

Played 2 ratings matches earlier today with a Wilson Juice Pro strung with Genesis Black Magic 17. Two hard fought wins; 30% satifisfaction, 70% relief, and 0% fun.

But I am absolutely loving this string.

The blend of spin, power, control, forgiveness and variety of shotmaking is just fantastic and complements the solid, beefy heft of the racquet perfectly. I just love ripping the ball with this string.

At times during my two matches, I did occasionally hanker for a solid flatter hitting string like the Discho Iontec Salmon, particularly in situations where I want to flatten the ball and hit through the court for an attempted winner, rather than the greater spin orientation of Black Magic, but horses for courses really because I don't think I would trade Iontec's flatter hitting for Black Magic's variety and spin (and margins), even if the latter doesn't feel as satisfying at thumping a flat ball through the court. But I do now have a 5-0 matchplay record with this string, so its none too shabby in terms of results.

In terms of tension 50lbs CP does feel a bit low for the stick I use and my style of play though. My vibe damp was more of an 'O' shape rather than an '0'. Going back to my original 52lbs which offers bit more control at the marginal expense of some power.

Just a real shame really that the string dies so quick. It at its best when fresh, and given that it seems to lose a fair bit of tension, a starting tension of 52lbs seems to better to me than 50lbs. Well suited to tournament play, because its at its best when fresh, so you can string up a couple racquets before a tournament and everything's good to go. Like I say though, its just a shame that performance seems to drop off so quickly and the string go dead (for me anyway).

Even though I have a reel of 17, I'm going to buy a couple of sets of 16 to see how that differs.

Kudos to Drakulie for starting his thread about this string (which brought it to my attention) and sticking to his guns with regard to his (and RSI's) positive opinion of this string.

Still very happy with Black Magic. I have a bought a couple set of Scorpion, Outlast and a set of Poly Break to compare against it.

[drakulie]

I get about 8-10 hours of hitting out of the string, which consists of drilling. String is lively, with good power, produces good spin, and control. To add, is very comfortable.

Much better string than "higher-end" strings like RPM, which is the most over-hyped piece of crap on the market, costs twice as much, can't hold tension, and dies with-in a day or two.

[fantom]

This past spring, I changed racquets from YTPP to Wilson Pro Open. So, over the summer I have been trying out new string to see if anything plays better than my go-to string - Genesis Black Magic 17.

I have tried: BHBR, BHB7, Scorpion, B5E, Cyclone, Tour Bite, & 4G

I have definitely liked/disliked things about all of these strings.

I strung my Pro Open up yesterday with the GBM, and played 2 sets. The Black Magic felt fantastic as usual. It's just a great overall string with no weaknesses that seems to be perfect for my game. I'm on the end of my second reel of this stuff, and will likely buy another one.

[zapvor]

Originally Posted by drakulie

I get about 8-10 hours of hitting out of the string, which consists of drilling. String is lively, with good power, produces good spin, and control. To add, is very comfortable.

Much better string than "higher-end" strings like RPM, which is the most over-hyped piece of crap on the market, costs twice as much, can't hold tension, and dies with-in a day or two.

totally agree. the hype for rpm is just stupid. way overpriced

[Chotobaka]

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[Power Player]

Hoping to log a few more hours on my BM. I have 2 hours that I got in a week ago and that is about it.

[Murray_fan1]

Any Black Magic fans have a chance to hit with Solinco Outlast? Two hours in, and I must say it as very similar playing characteristics to BM. I would be interested in hearing what others have to say.

[Grut]

Hello, someone can compare the black magic with luxilon 4g?

[Chace]

Originally Posted by Grut

Hello, someone can compare the black magic with luxilon 4g?

To me black magic is softer, more pop and more spin. Maintains tension better. I use the 17g and get around 7-8 hours out of it before it breaks. There are other polys out there that have more pop or spin but to me black magic is just a solid all around string.