And before 1910, who was the best?

Q&M son · 05-22-2008, 02:55 PM

So, what do you think? (Ok, we can include 1910...)

Leelord337 · 05-22-2008, 02:58 PM

I have no earthly idea

Tony Sideway · 05-22-2008, 03:07 PM

William Renshaw

Jim Courier fan · 05-22-2008, 03:18 PM

Laurie!--------------

chaognosis · 05-22-2008, 04:18 PM

H.L. Doherty.

Absolutely no question about it.

Snuh · 05-22-2008, 04:31 PM

This reminds me of something that Grandpa Simpson and Mr. Burns could answer.

urban · 05-23-2008, 12:06 AM

Jules Verne. Not really kidding (only a bit), because in the old times, it was costum, to use an alias-name. The early Wimbledon draw is filled with famous names of poets and artists. So Jules Verne indeed played some Wimbledons. The most prominent of those false contenders was the finalist of 1878, a certain St. Leger Goold. Later he became a murderer, and was rightfully beaten by a priest, the reverend Hartley. In earnest one of the Dohertys, i think Laurie, who however was frail, and Brookes.

Tennisfan! · 05-23-2008, 04:21 AM

"Laurie" Doherty!

chaognosis · 05-23-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by urban

In earnest one of the Dohertys, i think Laurie, who however was frail, and Brookes.

Laurie may have been frail, but he was robust compared to his brother.

And I would also rate Brookes just after after H.L. (and maybe R.F.).

Murray_Maniac · 05-24-2008, 11:56 AM

This quetion can't really be answered because: 1. Nearly everyone who was around then is gone. 2. Those still alive probably wouldnt post in the tw forums.
3. No vids of this time is on youtube.

chaognosis · 05-24-2008, 12:09 PM

A. Wallis Myers, the most respected tennis journalist of his era, ranked H.L. Doherty as Tilden's equal (in the early 1930s). Norman Brookes--who competed against both Laurie and Tilden--said in the 1950s that Tilden and the Dohertys were the top three players ever. In 1969, both Harry Hopman and Lance Tingay listed H.L. Doherty among the top ten players of all time. In his book Tennis Styles and Stylists (also 1969), Paul Metzler reports that many people close to the game felt that players steadily improved up to the time of the Dohertys, but after that there was very little real development in players, the main advances being rather in technology. So while we may lack video clips, we do have some weighty written accounts.

Q&M son · 06-28-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chaognosis

A. Wallis Myers, the most respected tennis journalist of his era, ranked H.L. Doherty as Tilden's equal (in the early 1930s). Norman Brookes--who competed against both Laurie and Tilden--said in the 1950s that Tilden and the Dohertys were the top three players ever. In 1969, both Harry Hopman and Lance Tingay listed H.L. Doherty among the top ten players of all time. In his book Tennis Styles and Stylists (also 1969), Paul Metzler reports that many people close to the game felt that players steadily improved up to the time of the Dohertys, but after that there was very little real development in players, the main advances being rather in technology. So while we may lack video clips, we do have some weighty written accounts.

Totally agree.
And very sorry for not put Brookes on the list.

jmsx521 · 06-28-2008, 05:55 PM

Napoleon was ruthless... and won a lot!

pabletion · 07-03-2008, 11:37 AM

Roger Federer's great grandfather, Joey Federer, but records of that age are scrappy and all of his results were lost in a fire.....

superstition · 07-03-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jmsx521

Napoleon was ruthless... and won a lot!

We have a winner!

llgc8080 · 07-03-2008, 12:46 PM

W. Renshaw was great, maybe Laurie Doherty or Brookes were greatest, but I choose William.

Vermillion · 07-03-2008, 12:57 PM

Jared J. Pim was the best

TennisExpert · 08-29-2008, 05:46 AM

"Laurie" Doherty

JoshDragon · 08-29-2008, 09:34 AM

William Regal or King Booker.

counter_puncher · 08-30-2008, 07:02 PM

i just picked a random guy.

View Poll Results: WhBefore 1910, who was better?
W. Renshaw	9	27.27%
E. Renshaw	1	3.03%
J. Pim	2	6.06%
W. Baddeley	2	6.06%
R. Doherty	1	3.03%
L. Doherty	12	36.36%
W. Larned	4	12.12%
Other	2	6.06%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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