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Old 11-07-2009, 10:18 AM   #201
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But where is that flex located - that's the question. The RDC machines (or whatever contraption they use) only measure stiffness at one part of the frame. Unless it has a constant stiffness (unlikely when the head is variable in width) that reading can be deceptive.

I'll give the RDiS-300 a try but, like I said, I'm not expecting $70 more value.
The 003 is a fine racquet. I have five, in case I ever needed to switch...The problem is, they are all strung with poly, so I do not hit with them.
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I love the 003 as well, with it being only $109 now I am thinking about getting number two and trying Weisscannon Explosiv in it to see the difference between that and x-1, which I love. If I don't try Explosiv, I may try one of the Klip hybrids.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:34 PM   #203
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I have/waiting to arrive several older Yonex frames: RD-7, RX-32, R-22, TI80 abd RDX-500 Mid. So the following statements, while might not be so rigid anymore, are absolutely law for the older Yonex frames:

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- A Yonex frame must be strung in 2 pieces with 4 knots;
- A Yonex frame should, and also plays better (larger sweetspot), have crosses strung with 5% less tension that the mains.

Finally Yonex frames are more control frames when compared to others more inclined to power.

Now, polys in mains should be 5 to 10% less than crosses (synthetic gut/multi/natural gut). This is absolutely forbidden in Yonex frames unless you wish your older frames to crack sooner or later.
The alternative is polys in crosses??? Is it even worth it?
If one uses gut or Multi in mains what is the advantage of polys in crosses when compared for example to a Synthetic gut like PSGD?
Of course a set in 2 pieces of Natural gut or high multi would be quite expensive . So what is the cheap alternative in crosses? Poly? What are the advantages, if any at all besides price.
Babolat VS and Tornado would be my first choice normally... but in a Yonex and having to change the gut to mains... I really donīt know if a Synthetic gut like PSGD wouldnīt be better in the crosses just for a matter of money of course... no other benefits I can see for a Hybrid of this kind.

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:15 PM   #204
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The 003 is a fine racquet. I have five, in case I ever needed to switch...The problem is, they are all strung with poly, so I do not hit with them.
I'm also going to consider the RDX-500 MP (my pro shop has two unused ones for sale). While it will be heavier than the RDS-003 it is quite a deal more flexible (I prefer either heavy and flexible or light and stiff).
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:23 PM   #205
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in case anyone here is interested in picking up a RDIS 300.....http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/d...k592285/Yonex/
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #206
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Just ordered a RDS001 mp, since the price is good now.

I don't have much experience with Yonex frames. I demo'ed the RDX500 mp (felt similar to my stock NXG OS - nice spin on groundies, but too flexy for serves and volleys). And also tried the 003, but I couldn't get it to feel right (didn't like the extra length).

I'm hoping that the RDS001 mp might play similary to my diablo mid (I like the thin beam and crisp feel a lot), but with a slightly larger more forgiving head size. Of course, I plan to modify mine a lot since I know my tastes. I plan to shorten it 1/4", add about an ounce of lead the upper hoop to get to 365+ SW, and add plenty of weight to the upper handle until it's almost 14 oz. so it swings around nice and easily.

I'm starting out with Kevlar 17g/Redcode 17 at 53/52.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:45 PM   #207
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I played with the Diablo mid...the Yonex is more powerful in my opinion...
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:57 AM   #208
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I'm hoping that the RDS001 mp might play similary to my diablo mid (I like the thin beam and crisp feel a lot), but with a slightly larger more forgiving head size. Of course, I plan to modify mine a lot since I know my tastes. I plan to shorten it 1/4", add about an ounce of lead the upper hoop to get to 365+ SW, and add plenty of weight to the upper handle until it's almost 14 oz. so it swings around nice and easily.
I think you'd be much better served if you bought one of the older Yonex frames that are still available on e-bay. In particular, the RQ-180 would be an excellent candidate as it already has a good bit of weight to it (over 12oz) and a much, much healthier swingweight.

Also, if you simply remove the buttcap you'll have reduced the length by about 1/4 of an inch but still have a saleable frame (if you decide you don't want to keep it).
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I think you'd be much better served if you bought one of the older Yonex frames that are still available on e-bay. In particular, the RQ-180 would be an excellent candidate as it already has a good bit of weight to it (over 12oz) and a much, much healthier swingweight.

Also, if you simply remove the buttcap you'll have reduced the length by about 1/4 of an inch but still have a saleable frame (if you decide you don't want to keep it).
But those other frames wouldn't have the properties I am looking for, namely a thin beam with medium-high stiffness. Also, I like to start out with a light frame with very little weight in the lower half of the hoop and throat. This allows me to add more mass to the upper half of the hoop where it's most desirable, and allows me more flexibility to get the balance I want.

And I don't really worry too much about resale value, as the mod's I do seem to increase the value of the frame - when I want to sell a shortened, heavily leaded, and well-balanced frame, I just let someone at the public courts try it out for a few strokes... sold!

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Old 11-09-2009, 07:40 AM   #210
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Update:Turbo Twist in my RQiS



I tried at different set up in my RQiS 95 XL and as promised decided I would post my thoughts. Although I have previously raved at about this string I am not sure if this is the set up I would choose for this stick. Don't get me wrong I still think Turbo twist is an excellent co-poly but after playing with a stick freshly strung with Alu I am not sure anything will compare favorably. Turbo twist definitely packs a serious punch but the control element ( spin production) seems to be lacking when compared to the Alu. With alu at the same tension (54lbs) I feel much more confident when taking big cuts at the ball, where as I felt I needed to hold back a little with Turbo twist. I will juice up the tension a bit and try again before discounting the turbo twist for this stick. I would recommend this string if you are new to poly or like multifilament strings and are looking for more durability with slightly more control.

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Power:9/10 no power lacking from this string. I think in the power department it is more like a multifilament than a poly.

Control:7/10It may have a lot to due with the lower tension. I did not have the confidence to take big cuts at the ball as I did with alu at the same tension (54lbs) . I will try again at a higher tension to see how much this improves.

Spin:7/10 Spin production was o.k but no where near as good as promised. This is supposed to be one of the main characteristics of this string but sadly I found my shots had less spin than the Alu did.

Feel/Touch:8/10 This is one characteristic I did notice a considerable difference to a regular co-poly. I had noticeably more feel on Drop shots, touch volleys etc with this string. I think this would make a good entry into the poly world for someone that is used to a multifilament.

Tension maintenance: To be determined After two hours with this set up I could not feel any noticeable drop in tension. I expect this to be better than average as all Weiss products I have tried in the past seem to have excellent tension maintenance.

Durability: To be determined String has not broken yet but has noticeable notching. I don't think this will last another 2 hr session.

Next up in the quest to find the ultimate set up : Weiss Silver String
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:51 AM   #211
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And I don't really worry too much about resale value, as the mod's I do seem to increase the value of the frame - when I want to sell a shortened, heavily leaded, and well-balanced frame, I just let someone at the public courts try it out for a few strokes... sold!
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I tried a hybrid first with WC Silverstring 17g at 60 in the mains and WC Explosiv at 62 in the crosses.

The feel was a bit too buttery for my taste. Explosiv is an extremely soft multi and I'm not sure it's a great match for flexible frames.

Now, I've got it strung with a full job of the Silverstring at 56 in the mains and 58 in the crosses. I like this setup much better, as it feels more crisp.

Man, there is nothing like a fresh stringjob with a full bed of nice poly like Silverstring. The sound of the pop is head-turning. I can see why the pros change racquets so often, because that initial crispiness is pretty short-lived. Then it's just okay for the remainder of the life of the stringjob. I usually cut mine out after about 8-12 hours, which is a compromise. I'd love to have freshies every time I hit, but I've got other things to do besides string racquets.

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Are you planning on sticking with full bed of Silverstring? I just strung up my stick with this and hope it fairs better than the turbo twist.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:03 AM   #213
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I have/waiting to arrive several older Yonex frames: RD-7, RX-32, R-22, TI80 abd RDX-500 Mid. So the following statements, while might not be so rigid anymore, are absolutely law for the older Yonex frames:

Facts:

- A Yonex frame must be strung in 2 pieces with 4 knots;
- A Yonex frame should, and also plays better (larger sweetspot), have crosses strung with 5% less tension that the mains.

Finally Yonex frames are more control frames when compared to others more inclined to power.

Now, polys in mains should be 5 to 10% less than crosses (synthetic gut/multi/natural gut). This is absolutely forbidden in Yonex frames unless you wish your older frames to crack sooner or later.
The alternative is polys in crosses??? Is it even worth it?
If one uses gut or Multi in mains what is the advantage of polys in crosses when compared for example to a Synthetic gut like PSGD?
Of course a set in 2 pieces of Natural gut or high multi would be quite expensive . So what is the cheap alternative in crosses? Poly? What are the advantages, if any at all besides price.
Babolat VS and Tornado would be my first choice normally... but in a Yonex and having to change the gut to mains... I really donīt know if a Synthetic gut like PSGD wouldnīt be better in the crosses just for a matter of money of course... no other benefits I can see for a Hybrid of this kind.

Advices?
WOW, It is the third time I ask a question in this Yonex thread but it seems that if it is not racket directly associated one will absolutely be ignored...
Maybe I should say instead that my R-22 arrived followed by some nice pictures so that people will start asking questions and a fellow wonīt feel absolutely ignored. Fortunetly I didnīt write the post for nothing since I started a thread with the same question in the string section with at least far success than here. I posted it also here since Yonex friends would have morre knowledge on the yonex particular "situation" about stringing it.
Wish you all the best...
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:31 AM   #214
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My own story: I grew up with a Jack KraMer Pro Staff and switched to a Donnay Borg Pro (should have stayed with the Kramer, or tried the Dunlop Maxply Fort). Stayed away from tennis for 26 years and then got an inexpensive Prince Triple Threat and the Wilson [K] Blade Team. This racquet was not as manueverable as I wanted, and then I fell in love...
I saw Jie Zheng* playing on TV. With a Yonex RDiS 300. I HAD to demo this racquet; I was so impressed bythe power this tiny 5'4"dynamo could get out of this racquet.
At first, i couldn't notice much difference with the Wilson KB Team. But then I started hitting at balls that were in awkward places -- and the difference became manifest immediately.
After flirting with the RDS 003 (which I bought, undemoed, because they were similar in specs and...ON SALE !! ), and briefly considering a Babolat, I have settled on the RDiS 300. It is heavy enough, yet much easier to swing than the RDS003. To alleviate arm symptoms, following the advice of the stringer at my local shop, I put NXT on it and felt the difference immediately.
I love Yonex, its quality and have the ultra-cool Yonex Beijing 2008 red and yellow bag. The only problem is, now I have too many Yonex racquets to fit in it!!!
But that's a nice problem to have...

*This is the westernized version of her name; the Chinese way is Zheng (last name) Jie. It actually sounds better that way.
have you met her in person? i am thnking about switching to a rds001 myself actually.
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Hey everybody I am going to make a switch to yonex but dont know which one yet. The other day I popped my racquet and a friend of mine let me use one of his yonex rqis 1 tours and I fell in love with it. The only thing is it was a bit flexy and he told me with my game I should think about the rds 001 midplus. My game is aggresive I have a whippy topspin forehand with a one handed backhand. I have a hard topspin first serve and a pretty good kick serve for second. Any suggestions?
Sounds like we have a similar game. Don't know your rating but I'm about a 5.0. I use the RDS 001 (1st version) and love it. Have tried the RQiS but find it too flexy. I also volley a good bit so I generally prefer stiffer low powered racquets, which is exactly what the RDS 001 is. The price is amazing now. You need to try both racquets again though. They play very differently.
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WOW, It is the third time I ask a question in this Yonex thread but it seems that if it is not racket directly associated one will absolutely be ignored...
Maybe I should say instead that my R-22 arrived followed by some nice pictures so that people will start asking questions and a fellow wonīt feel absolutely ignored. Fortunetly I didnīt write the post for nothing since I started a thread with the same question in the string section with at least far success than here. I posted it also here since Yonex friends would have morre knowledge on the yonex particular "situation" about stringing it.
Wish you all the best...
I think you'll find people on here ar every helpful, but to be quite honest, your question is so dense from a technical point of view that I doubt there are all that many who can understand what you are asking. I sure do not.
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Sounds like we have a similar game. Don't know your rating but I'm about a 5.0. I use the RDS 001 (1st version) and love it. Have tried the RQiS but find it too flexy. I also volley a good bit so I generally prefer stiffer low powered racquets, which is exactly what the RDS 001 is. The price is amazing now. You need to try both racquets again though. They play very differently.
Only way to find out is testing,but that's a change for the better.You may try RDS 001 mid,this one will fit you good,and it's a player's racquet,small,heavy,a lot of control and topspin access,touch,feel,it's awesome,but you'll always be right no matter what racket you choose,by choosing Yonex.

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I think you'll find people on here ar every helpful, but to be quite honest, your question is so dense from a technical point of view that I doubt there are all that many who can understand what you are asking. I sure do not.
Thank you for your answer. At least Iīm sure my posts are not only visible to me
I really do not think that my post is that complicated. You might not understand it because English is not my home language and of course that is perfectly understandable.
Anyway, thank you for answering my call. I apreciate it
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Thank you for your answer. At least Iīm sure my posts are not only visible to me
I really do not think that my post is that complicated. You might not understand it because English is not my home language and of course that is perfectly understandable.
Anyway, thank you for answering my call. I apreciate it
I kind of figured that. Actually, your English is pretty good! But it does seem to be a techinical question -- I just tell my stringer to string my racquet with NXT at my specified tension, and let him do the rest...
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WOW, It is the third time I ask a question in this Yonex thread but it seems that if it is not racket directly associated one will absolutely be ignored
If it's the third time then that should tell you that you're either not making your question clear enough OR you're asking it in the wrong forum. In other words, it's you, not us.

Firstly, learn to put a space between paragraphs. Looks a lot neater and is easier to read. Easier to read equals more likely to be answered.

Secondly, you've got a stringing question so you should ask it in the appropriate forum. Just because this one is dedicated to Yonex racquets doesn't mean that anyone will know the frames you mention or have much clue about strings.

Thirdly, ask your question up front, at the beginning of your post.
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