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Talk Tennis Guru
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I was watching a clip of this match on Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO1kYcftLCY
A number of interesting observations...
Does anyone have the full match in clear resolution? Last edited by Bud : 10-02-2009 at 05:57 PM. |
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Graf's 4th straight slam final, having lost the previous two.
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It represented one heck of an almost-comeback for Evert. She was down like 1-5 in the second set after being annihilated in the first and took it to a tiebreaker I think, winning an amazing number of games. Graf just does not have that happen to her often.
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What do you think changed. Was it Evert playing alot better, Steffi dropping her phenomenal level of the whole match up until then somewhat, or a tactical change in the match.
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Now that was fun to watch. I would love to see the whole match. Evert was almost 35 I think, what an amazing career she had.
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Evert had such a contrast between forehand and backhand from what i can see from this and other videos. her backhand looks practically modern and very powerful while her forehand is very classical.
A question thta i would appreciate being answered is why did Stephi really abandon the topspin backhand?
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She started out at around 86/87 of being more of a versatile player than the player she was when she dominated. Like a female Federer she had all the shots. She played from the baseline and she frequently attacked with that flat backhand and came to the net. Many people, former pros (commentating her matches) forget how many shots she had. Watch the 86/7 matches and you'll see what I mean. Her serve then wasn't the weapon it was starting in 1988. From a tactical point of view, her slice (not an average slow slice) set up the point (opponents hitting up) for her to finish with that laserforehand. Many people have belittled that slice, but there's no generation who could dominate her or her style of playing. Tecnically it's a safer and easier shot (for her) to hit than the topspin backhand. Also, she loved playing elegant powerful tennis and that slice fit in there so beautifully. The shot was bad (IMO) during those 90/91 years, but when Heinz Gunthard took over from Pavil Slozil, he made it a better shot fo her. Hitting the slice more often than the topspin made her less comfortable with the latter (add everyone talking about it) and it dissappeared from her repetoire. It's shame, because it was a good shot. Would she have won more with it? I doubt it, that slice was so good. I do believe that this power generation would have had more (even more than her own) trouble with her style of playing. Yes, power hitter Monica Seles (maybe less power than today's players) could at times beat the slice (not often), but no one of today's players hit those kind of angles, had that kind of anticipation and mental drive Seles had. Steffi only knows the real reason, these were my thoughts about the topspinbackhand.
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One thing they ([B]Roger Federer & Steffi Graf[/B]) have in common: they scare(d) the crap out of their opponents when at the top. that's the kind of weapon you can't teach at the local club. and they use(d) it to perfection. Last edited by Warriorroger : 10-03-2009 at 11:47 PM. |
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They were engaging in really long strenuous rallies throughout the match and by the end Evert looked a bit tired (she was 33 (her birthday is in December) and past her prime) and Steffi still looked fresh and she was able to turn things around in the tiebreaker and win it. Good almost comeback for Evert - if she had pulled out that 2nd set things would have gotten very interesting because although by that time Evert was tired, she was completely in the match mentally which was always her greatest strength. Would Evert have pulled off the win if she had won the 2nd set? Iffy, but she definitely would have given herself a legitimate chance to do so. Last edited by CEvertFan : 10-08-2009 at 10:48 AM. |
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In retrospect Steffi may have been at her peak at this time.
Looking at the way Chris played in this match at the end, you wonder how she would have played with the rackets of today. That was some almost comeback. |
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If Evert had taken the second set, I think she probably still would have lost, mentally she was in but it was such a monumental physical effort for her to battle her way back in in the second that would have been tough to maintain in the third set. It would have come down to a battle of physical ability vs. mental Ability. Graf was no pushover mentally even in 1988 when she was still fairly young and she would have the physical advantage. I honestly think Steffi made one of her few tactical errors and got a little complacent with Chris being that she was up 6-1 5-1....I think she thought she had it...something you never assume when your playing someone like Evert, and that along with Evert raising her level let her back in. Steffi probably would have reasserted herself in the 3rd and finished it off if it had gone that far. Last edited by boredone3456 : 10-05-2009 at 09:11 AM. |
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I think I read somewhere on here where she marveled on how much easier it is for her to hit topspin bh's with her current frame. Plus after Martina faded she didn't have to pass too many people anymore.
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