Becker's most disappointing defeats

srinrajesh · 10-13-2009, 11:57 AM

Hi
What do you guys consider as his most disappointing loss
Being a huge fan every loss of his was bad but i have compiled list of 10-12 losses that were most upsetting

All of his wimby finals defeats ..
88, 89 loss to edberg and 91 loss to stich when he was overwhelming favourite
95 Wimby final to sampras as the sentimental favourite 10 years after winning in 85

92 wimby QTF loss in 5 sets to Agassi
99 loss to Rafter in 4th round in straight sets

French open 89 SF to edberg -- wud have easily overpowered chang in final and won a clay court and career slam

Shock defeats as defending champion

87 2nd Round shocker to Peter Doohan
90 US open SF to Agassi led 3-0 career i think at that time
Aus open
92 3rd round to McEnroe
97 1st round to Moya

But personally His loss to Gerard Solves in 1998 in chennai open 2nd round hurt me a lot even though he was past his prime as i was courtside and he lost

Joe Pike · 10-13-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by srinrajesh

Hi
What do you guys consider as his most disappointing loss
Being a huge fan every loss of his was bad but i have compiled list of 10-12 losses that were most upsetting

All of his wimby finals defeats ..
88, 89 loss to edberg and 91 loss to stich when he was overwhelming favourite
95 Wimby final to sampras as the sentimental favourite 10 years after winning in 85

92 wimby QTF loss in 5 sets to Agassi
99 loss to Rafter in 4th round in straight sets

French open 89 SF to edberg -- wud have easily overpowered chang in final and won a clay court and career slam

Shock defeats as defending champion

87 2nd Round shocker to Peter Doohan
90 US open SF to Agassi led 3-0 career i think at that time
Aus open
92 3rd round to McEnroe
97 1st round to Moya

But personally His loss to Gerard Solves in 1998 in chennai open 2nd round hurt me a lot even though he was past his prime as i was courtside and he lost

He didn't lose the 89 Wimbledon final to Edberg. Actually he thrashed him in 3 sets.
And even if he had beaten Edberg in the FO semis that year - Chang would have been to good for him.

David_86 · 10-13-2009, 01:42 PM

Lendl's destruction of him in the 1986 Masters Final cut Becker down to size. Since the US Open that year Becker had been on a hot streak winning 3 indoor tournaments and bragging that he would consider himself the no.1 player in world if he won the Masters. Also the media was all too willing to give him Lendl's crown. Happily Lendl destroyed him in straight sets 6-4 6-4 6-4, losing only 12 points on serve and not facing a break point.

krosero · 10-13-2009, 01:56 PM

Defeats at Wimbledon in 90, 91, 92. All disappointing.

All his losses to Agassi.

timnz · 10-13-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Pike

He didn't lose the 89 Wimbledon final to Edberg. Actually he thrashed him in 3 sets.
And even if he had beaten Edberg in the FO semis that year - Chang would have been to good for him.

Have to disagree. If Becker had got past Edberg that year - he would have beaten Chang. I base that on the quarter finals they played two years later at Roland Garros Becker won 6-4, 6-4, 6-2. In fact Chang only ever one 1 match against Becker their entire head to head.

Becker tactic was to overpower Chang. It worked!

You may say that Becker never won a Clay Court title. Well in 1989 he was in a zone in the Major Championships. In terms of match ups Becker had it far easier than Edberg against Chang. Whereas he won only 1 match against Becker his entire career Chang won 9 against Edberg (12 to Edberg against Chang). Becker - Chang is 5 to 1.

heathcliff · 10-14-2009, 02:38 PM

according to an interview with becker the most dissapointing defeat to him was the 1990-wimbledon-final-loss to edberg. when he converted a two sets to love deficit into a 3-1 and 30-0 lead in the final set and lost the 5th 6-4.

hoodjem · 10-14-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by srinrajesh

Hi
What do you guys consider as his most disappointing loss

All of his wimby finals defeats ..
88, 89 loss to edberg and 91 loss to stich when he was overwhelming favourite

In 1989 Becker beat Edberg: 6–0, 7–6(7–1), 6–4.

In 1988 and 1990 Becker lost to Edberg in two great, classic matches: one hard-fought four-setter and one great five-setter.

Losses yes, but not all disappointing IMO.

boredone3456 · 10-14-2009, 07:51 PM

the 1990 Wimbledon final is the first match that comes to mind for this thread.
1986 YEC Final
Maybe the 1996 YEC Final...he played a heck of a match and still lost to Pete in 5.

BorisBeckerFan · 10-14-2009, 11:40 PM

Every Becker loss was disappointing to me. In particular the Edberg losses at Wimbledon.

Stefan83 · 10-15-2009, 12:11 AM

Wimbledon 91 loss to stich

Borgforever · 10-15-2009, 12:42 AM

^^^ Yup. Some quick thoughts.

It's good that I am anonymous because I guess some Swedes would come after me with the pitch-forks when I say this:

I do admire Stefan enormously but I do admire a player more who can win when he's not "on" -- and Stefan did fight greatly and won many times -- but he seemed more "on" dependent than Boris and Ivan who by pure will-power and great grit could prevail when things weren't clicking so well -- IMO -- and when it came to Wimby 1990 I was on Boris' camp -- heavily -- and man did I get scolded for that from my friends.

It was not a pretty scene I'll tell you. The traitor they called me

There's really very few elite players that dislike, I love 'em all almost.

But I did like Lendl and Becker a tad more than Stefan -- so if Ivan or Boris won I was equally happy.

But Boris had much more potential IMO than what he realized. I adore his technique -- it was so defined, the motions so clearly enahanced -- on all shots -- and I truly believed he was going to become a heavy-duty GOAT-contender and thought his clutch was stronger than Stefan's.

So yes -- there's no room for me to name all the disappointing losses that Boris had. I don't know what happened really with Boris. I know some things, but I don't want to speculate...

I must point out that when I played Boris once, in 1988, and I hung out with him a bit around those years -- he was extremely nice and had no "airs" or silly ego. A truly a great guy so it was tough for me to see him "go down" when I thought he shouldn't...

Wimby 1990 and particularly Wimby 1991 was really disasters in my mind. Let's not talk about it....

Anyone with the name initials BB gets the okey-stamp from me -- just kiddin'

Borgforever · 10-15-2009, 12:53 AM

How much did I love Boris and Ivan -- well judge for yourselves -- I did this as a tribute to these geniuses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfReRBpn7nM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFTCw9bK4EY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieTWAg7X0nQ

wyutani · 10-15-2009, 01:11 AM

i have to be 70 years old to know this.

Steffi-forever · 10-15-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan83

Wimbledon 91 loss to stich

Yes, it is the most disappointing lost for him probably.

grafselesfan · 10-15-2009, 02:50 AM

Wimbledon finals of 1990 and 1991 are up there. Most dissapointing of all though surely was his loss to Doohan at Wimbledn 87 when everyone was betting the farm on him 3 peating.

grafselesfan · 10-15-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boredone3456

Maybe the 1996 YEC Final...he played a heck of a match and still lost to Pete in 5.

Honestly I think that was a match he felt like a winner even though he lost. He was past his prime and still took maybe the greatest player ever Pete Sampras to one of the most amazing 5 setters in history. Sure he would have prefered to have won but I dont think he was deeply dissapointed given what he accomplished that day all the same.

srinrajesh · 10-15-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Pike

He didn't lose the 89 Wimbledon final to Edberg. Actually he thrashed him in 3 sets.
And even if he had beaten Edberg in the FO semis that year - Chang would have been to good for him.

sorry meant 90 final loss to edberg at wimby

No way chang cud have beaten him-- remember Boris was at his best form in 1989 and chang at 17 wud have been overpowered
H2H --Becker leads 5-1 Vs Chang including a 4,4,2 thrashing at french open in 91 on clay!!

Mochel10s · 10-15-2009, 05:39 AM

I am surprised that no one has mentioned his loss to Muster in the Monte Carlo final. I think he was up 2 sets to love and serving for the match and ended up losing in 5...

srinrajesh · 10-15-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by grafselesfan

Honestly I think that was a match he felt like a winner even though he lost. He was past his prime and still took maybe the greatest player ever Pete Sampras to one of the most amazing 5 setters in history. Sure he would have prefered to have won but I dont think he was deeply dissapointed given what he accomplished that day all the same.

Exactly.. This was probably one of the best matches in ATP history .. Sampras has called Boris the best indoor player he has played in his life...

srinrajesh · 10-15-2009, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by heathcliff

according to an interview with becker the most dissapointing defeat to him was the 1990-wimbledon-final-loss to edberg. when he converted a two sets to love deficit into a 3-1 and 30-0 lead in the final set and lost the 5th 6-4.

remember reading an interview where Boris admitted he lost focus in 90 final .. he started thinking about raising the trophy after getting the break in the final set and it turned out to be a fatal mistake ..

10-13-2009, 11:57 AM	#1
srinrajesh Professional Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 807	Becker's most disappointing defeats Hi What do you guys consider as his most disappointing loss Being a huge fan every loss of his was bad but i have compiled list of 10-12 losses that were most upsetting All of his wimby finals defeats .. 88, 89 loss to edberg and 91 loss to stich when he was overwhelming favourite 95 Wimby final to sampras as the sentimental favourite 10 years after winning in 85 92 wimby QTF loss in 5 sets to Agassi 99 loss to Rafter in 4th round in straight sets French open 89 SF to edberg -- wud have easily overpowered chang in final and won a clay court and career slam Shock defeats as defending champion 87 2nd Round shocker to Peter Doohan 90 US open SF to Agassi led 3-0 career i think at that time Aus open 92 3rd round to McEnroe 97 1st round to Moya But personally His loss to Gerard Solves in 1998 in chennai open 2nd round hurt me a lot even though he was past his prime as i was courtside and he lost

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Borgforever Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,564	^^^ Yup. Some quick thoughts. It's good that I am anonymous because I guess some Swedes would come after me with the pitch-forks when I say this: I do admire Stefan enormously but I do admire a player more who can win when he's not "on" -- and Stefan did fight greatly and won many times -- but he seemed more "on" dependent than Boris and Ivan who by pure will-power and great grit could prevail when things weren't clicking so well -- IMO -- and when it came to Wimby 1990 I was on Boris' camp -- heavily -- and man did I get scolded for that from my friends. It was not a pretty scene I'll tell you. The traitor they called me There's really very few elite players that dislike, I love 'em all almost. But I did like Lendl and Becker a tad more than Stefan -- so if Ivan or Boris won I was equally happy. But Boris had much more potential IMO than what he realized. I adore his technique -- it was so defined, the motions so clearly enahanced -- on all shots -- and I truly believed he was going to become a heavy-duty GOAT-contender and thought his clutch was stronger than Stefan's. So yes -- there's no room for me to name all the disappointing losses that Boris had. I don't know what happened really with Boris. I know some things, but I don't want to speculate... I must point out that when I played Boris once, in 1988, and I hung out with him a bit around those years -- he was extremely nice and had no "airs" or silly ego. A truly a great guy so it was tough for me to see him "go down" when I thought he shouldn't... Wimby 1990 and particularly Wimby 1991 was really disasters in my mind. Let's not talk about it.... Anyone with the name initials BB gets the okey-stamp from me -- just kiddin' Last edited by Borgforever : 10-15-2009 at 12:48 AM.

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