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05-21-2012, 09:54 AM
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This sounds like Hoad's typical routine, but usually he could still play well the next day. |
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06-07-2012, 11:26 AM
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Connors: 1974, 1976, 1982.
Vilas and Borg as co-number ones in 1977.
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The smart man thinks he knows a lot; the wise man is aware that he knows little. Last edited by hoodjem : 06-07-2012 at 10:37 PM. |
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06-07-2012, 02:28 PM
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I did a list a while back of my top 2 tennis players per year:
My top 2 tennis players per year 1919: Bill Johnston, Bill Tilden 1920: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1921: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1922: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1923: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1924: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1925: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1926: Rene Lacoste, Jean Borotra 1927: Rene Lacoste, Bill Tilden 1928: Henri Cochet, Rene Lacoste 1929: Henri Cochet, Rene Lacoste 1930: Henri Cochet, Bill Tilden 1931: Bill Tilden, Ellsworth Vines 1932: Ellsworth Vines, Bill Tilden 1933: Jack Crawford, Fred Perry 1934: Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry 1935: Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry 1936: Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry 1937: Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry 1938: Ellsworth Vines, Don Budge 1939: Don Budge, Ellsworth Vines 1940: Don Budge, Fred Perry 1941: Fred Perry, Bobby Riggs 1942: Don Budge, Bobby Riggs 1943: ?????? 1944: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1945: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1946: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1947: Bobby Riggs, Jack Kramer 1948: Jack Kramer, Bobby Riggs 1949: Jack Kramer, Bobby Riggs 1950: Jack Kramer, Pancho Segura 1951: Jack Kramer, Pancho Segura 1952: Pancho Segura, Pancho Gonzales 1953: Jack Kramer, Frank Sedgman 1954: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1955: Pancho Gonzales, Pancho Segura 1956: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1957: Pancho Gonzales, Pancho Segura 1958: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1959: Pancho Gonzales, Lew Hoad 1960: Pancho Gonzales, Ken Rosewall 1961: Pancho Gonzales, Ken Rosewall 1962: Ken Rosewall, Lew Hoad 1963: Ken Rosewall, Rod Laver 1964: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1965: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1966: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1967: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1968: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1969: Rod Laver, Tony Roche 1970: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1971: John Newcombe, Stan Smith 1972: Stan Smith, Ilie Nastase 1973: Ilie Nastase, John Newcombe 1974: Jimmy Connors, John Newcombe 1975: Arthur Ashe, Jimmy Connors 1976: Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg 1977: Guillermo Vilas, Bjorn Borg 1978: Bjorn Borg, Jimmy Connors 1979: Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe 1980: Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe 1981: John McEnroe, Bjorn Borg 1982: Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendl 1983: John McEnroe, Mats Wilander 1984: John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors 1985: Ivan Lendl, John McEnroe 1986: Ivan Lendl, Boris Becker 1987: Ivan Lendl, Mats Wilander 1988: Mats Wilander, Ivan Lendl 1989: Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl 1990: Stefan Edberg, Andre Agassi 1991: Stefan Edberg, Jim Courier 1992: Jim Courier, Stefan Edberg 1993: Pete Sampras, Jim Courier 1994: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi 1995: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi 1996: Pete Sampras, Boris Becker 1997: Pete Sampras, Patrick Rafter 1998: Pete Sampras, Marcelo Rios 1999: Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras 2000: Gustavo Kuerten, Marat Safin 2001: Lleyton Hewitt, Gustavo Kuerten 2002: Lleyton Hewitt, Andre Agassi 2003: Andy Roddick, Roger Federer 2004: Roger Federer, Lleyton Hewitt 2005: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2006: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2007: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2008: Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer 2009: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2010: Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer 2011: Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal My top 2 amateur tennis players per year 1919: Bill Johnston, Bill Tilden 1920: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1921: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1922: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1923: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1924: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1925: Bill Tilden, Bill Johnston 1926: Rene Lacoste, Jean Borotra 1927: Rene Lacoste, Bill Tilden 1928: Henri Cochet, Rene Lacoste 1929: Henri Cochet, Rene Lacoste 1930: Henri Cochet, Bill Tilden 1931: Ellsworth Vines, Henri Cochet 1932: Ellsworth Vines, Henri Cochet 1933: Jack Crawford, Fred Perry 1934: Fred Perry, Jack Crawford 1935: Fred Perry, Jack Crawford 1936: Fred Perry, Gottfried von Cramm 1937: Don Budge, Gottfried von Cramm 1938: Don Budge, Bunny Austin 1939: Bobby Riggs, John Bromwich 1940: Don McNeill, Bobby Riggs 1941: Bobby Riggs, Frank Kovacs 1942: Ted Schroeder, Frank Parker 1943: Joseph Hunt, Jack Kramer 1944: Frank Parker, Bill Talbert 1945: Frank Parker, Bill Talbert 1946: Jack Kramer, John Bromwich 1947: Jack Kramer, Dinny Pails 1948: John Bromwich, Pancho Gonzales 1949: Pancho Gonzales, Ted Schroeder 1950: Budge Patty, Frank Sedgman 1951: Frank Sedgman, Dick Savitt 1952: Frank Sedgman, Jaroslav Drobny 1953: Tony Trabert, Ken Rosewall 1954: Jaroslav Drobny, Tony Trabert 1955: Tony Trabert, Ken Rosewall 1956: Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall 1957: Lew Hoad, Ashley Cooper 1958: Ashley Cooper, Mal Anderson 1959: Alex Olmedo, Neale Fraser 1960: Neale Fraser, Rod Laver 1961: Roy Emerson, Rod Laver 1962: Rod Laver, Roy Emerson 1963: Roy Emerson, Chuck McKinley 1964: Roy Emerson, Fred Stolle 1965: Roy Emerson, Fred Stolle 1966: Fred Stolle, Manuel Santana 1967: John Newcombe, Roy Emerson My top 2 professional tennis players per year 1927: Vinny Richards, Howard Kinsey 1928: Vinny Richards, Karel Kozeluh 1929: Karel Kozeluh, Vinny Richards 1930: Karel Kozeluh, Vinny Richards 1931: Bill Tilden, Vinny Richards 1932: Bill Tilden, Karel Kozeluh 1933: Bill Tilden, Hans Nusslein 1934: Ellsworth Vines, Hans Nusslein 1935: Ellsworth Vines, Hans Nusslein 1936: Ellsworth Vines, Hans Nusslein 1937: Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry 1938: Ellsworth Vines, Hans Nusslein 1939: Don Budge, Ellsworth Vines 1940: Don Budge, Fred Perry 1941: Fred Perry, Dick Skeen 1942: Don Budge, Bobby Riggs 1943: ?????? 1944: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1945: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1946: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1947: Bobby Riggs, Don Budge 1948: Jack Kramer, Bobby Riggs 1949: Jack Kramer, Bobby Riggs 1950: Jack Kramer, Pancho Segura 1951: Jack Kramer, Pancho Segura 1952: Pancho Segura, Pancho Gonzales 1953: Jack Kramer, Frank Sedgman 1954: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1955: Pancho Gonzales, Pancho Segura 1956: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1957: Pancho Gonzales, Pancho Segura 1958: Pancho Gonzales, Frank Sedgman 1959: Pancho Gonzales, Lew Hoad 1960: Pancho Gonzales, Ken Rosewall 1961: Pancho Gonzales, Ken Rosewall 1962: Ken Rosewall, Lew Hoad 1963: Ken Rosewall, Rod Laver 1964: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1965: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1966: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall 1967: Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall Last edited by Mustard : 07-18-2012 at 08:19 PM. |
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06-07-2012, 02:33 PM
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1971: John Newcombe, Stan Smith 1972: Stan Smith, Ilie Nastase 1973: Ilie Nastase, John Newcombe 1974: Jimmy Connors, Bjorn Borg 1975: Arthur Ashe, Jimmy Connors 1976: Bjorn Borg,Jimmy Connors 1977: Guillermo Vilas, Bjorn Borg/Jimmy Connors 1978: Bjorn Borg, Jimmy Connors 1979: Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe 1980: Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe 1981: John McEnroe, Bjorn Borg 1982: Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendl 1983: John McEnroe, Mats Wilander 1984: John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors 1985: Ivan Lendl, John McEnroe 1986: Ivan Lendl, Boris Becker 1987: Ivan Lendl, Stefan Edberg 1988: Mats Wilander, Ivan Lendl 1989: Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl 1990: Stefan Edberg, Andre Agassi 1991: Stefan Edberg, Jim Courier 1992: Jim Courier, Stefan Edberg 1993: Pete Sampras, Jim Courier 1994: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi 1995: Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi 1996: Pete Sampras, Boris Becker 1997: Pete Sampras, Patrick Rafter 1998: Pete Sampras, Marcelo Rios 1999: Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras 2000: Gustavo Kuerten, Marat Safin 2001: Lleyton Hewitt, Gustavo Kuerten 2002: Lleyton Hewitt, Andre Agassi 2003: Andy Roddick, Roger Federer 2004: Roger Federer, Lleyton Hewitt 2005: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2006: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2007: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2008: Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer 2009: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal 2010: Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer 2011: Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal 
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07-13-2012, 12:06 PM
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07-13-2012, 12:28 PM
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07-13-2012, 01:33 PM
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I did an interview with Dennis Ralston earlier this year and he makes a case for Gonzales being the best ever.
http://austintennis.blogspot.com/201...ew-part-i.html
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07-14-2012, 10:16 AM
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In a 1975 article in Sports Illustrated, Gonzales told Arthur Ashe that if there was ever a Universe Davis Cup, and he (Gonzales) had to pick one man to represent Planet Earth, he would pick Lew Hoad in his prime. The operative phrase here is "in his prime", as there was a great difference between Hoad playing well and playing poorly later in his career. |
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07-14-2012, 01:57 PM
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1977 the top 5 tournaments
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Wct finals French open Wimbledon Us open Masters Connors won 2 of them and was in the finals of two others. Vilas won 2 and was in no other finals. Borg won 1 and was in 1 other final (the masters). So connors made 4 of the top 5 finals and both borg and vilas only made 2 each. Having said that i will think vilas deserves the number 1 rank for that season, but when you look at it in terms of the top 5 events, connors did a lot better than you might think. Last edited by timnz : 07-14-2012 at 02:06 PM. |
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07-14-2012, 02:16 PM
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07-14-2012, 10:58 PM
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07-15-2012, 06:47 AM
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I still would give Vilas nº 1 in 77...as I would pick Borg as nº 1 in 76. What about 1971? Newcombe: Wimbledon champion but not any other final Kodes: FO champion and US open runner up Nastase: Masters champion and FO finalist Rosewall:AO champion and WCT winner Smith: Forest Hills winner and Masters and Wimbledon runner up In an analogy with 77, most people has picked up Newcombe as the world´s nº 1 in 1971.But, just as much as Connors in 77, Stan Smith had possibly the most complete year of the lot, and he´d be heavily favoured to be nº1.
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07-15-2012, 07:19 AM
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07-15-2012, 07:48 AM
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I still think Vilas had the best year of the trio Borg/Connors/Vilas in 1977 but not by a wide gap.Borg also had his share of wins and, if Connors didn´t double fault in the 9 th game of the Wimbledon final, Borg may have ended with 0 major wins and Connors with 3, and therefore, there would be no case at all and Connors wins by far the 1977 awards...
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07-15-2012, 08:04 AM
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07-15-2012, 01:45 PM
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While I would still put Connors third in 1977 behind Vilas and Borg, I agree that there is a case to give him the edge that year given that he won 2 out of the 5 biggest tournaments that year and was a finalist at 2 out of the other 3.
It's not like 1982 where there is no way in hell anyone could give McEnroe the edge that year over either Connors or Lendl, given that failed to win any titles at the slams, Masters, WCT finals or other WCT tournaments. |
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07-15-2012, 02:18 PM
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(If Connors had won that 5th set at Wimbledon though - the discussion would be quite different). |
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07-15-2012, 03:01 PM
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Agree with all of that Vilas had the best accomplishments in 1977, Borg displayed the highest standard of tennis and Connors wasn't as far off from those two as many people I think. I agree that when it comes to anointing a player of the year, you could only go on achievements, so Vilas's year it was.
When Borg retired in his 4th round match against Stockton at the USO due to a sore shoulder, he had been projected to meet Vilas in the semis there. Given how helpless Vilas was against Borg, he must have breathed a huge sigh of relief following Borg's withdrawal, like he did when Borg wasn't in the draw at RG earlier in the year. Of course player records from back then are a huge mess , but that retirement was Borg's only defeat in 54 'official' matches counted on the ITF website from March to November which was amazing. |
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07-16-2012, 11:25 AM
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Year-end number 1 John McEnroe finished the year as the number 1-ranked player for four consecutive years from 1981 to 1984. Lleyton Hewitt at age 20 became the youngest player to hold the world number 1 ranking. He obtained this in November 2001. Novak Djokovic finished the year 2011 as No. 1 The year-end number 1 ranked player is determined as the player at the head of the ATP rankings following the completion of the final tournament of the calendar year, usually in November or December. Pete Sampras holds the record of six year-end number ones, which were in consecutive years from 1993 through 1998. Only five players have stayed at number 1 in the rankings every week of a calendar year. Federer is the only player to have been ranked number 1 every week for three consecutive calendar years. Key (1) Cumulative number of times as year-end number 1 Ranked number 1 during every week of the calendar year Year Player 1973 Ilie Năstase (1) 1974 Jimmy Connors (1) 1975 Jimmy Connors (2) 1976 Jimmy Connors (3) 1977 Jimmy Connors (4)
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07-16-2012, 12:05 PM
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