Andre now admits separate amphetamine use - Page 2

thejoe · 11-01-2009, 04:43 AM

Andre what are you doing?

People will buy your book anyway, stop doing this to yourself.

Anaconda · 11-01-2009, 04:45 AM

Next week we will find out that agassi was betting on his own matches and lost on purpose to sampras in all those slam finals.

David L · 11-01-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by thejoe

Andre what are you doing?

People will buy your book anyway, stop doing this to yourself.

The book has already been printed, with early preview copies provided to the media, so all these revelations are coming from the same source and are selected by the media. Agassi is not literally speaking to the media and providing new information which is not already in the book, so he is not in a position to stop doing anything. The genie is already out of the bottle.

Falloutjr · 11-01-2009, 04:58 AM

And that he was "secretly attracted to teachers of both sexes as well as other players on tour" (Nav knows she deserved that :/ )

mandy01 · 11-01-2009, 05:57 AM

Andre

Dark Victory · 11-01-2009, 06:09 AM

It wouldn't surprise me if it came out that Rafael Nadal juiced.

DownTheLine · 11-01-2009, 06:14 AM

Is he trying to kill tennis?

McBrat · 11-01-2009, 06:30 AM

Summary:
Andre Agassi 0-2 Knopf Publishing
Andre Agassi 2-0 ATP
Andre Agassi 2-0 Mike Agassi

Winner: Knopf Publishing

ATP: DQ
Mike Agassi: PWNED!!!!!1!111!!!!

flyinghippos101 · 11-01-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Anaconda

I also love the fact that people are speculating that Nadal is doping. I think that he's just a freak of nature who is just naturally physically gifted.

+1, except he not a freak a nature oh no. That's hours at the gym man.

NGM · 11-01-2009, 06:52 AM

I actually think Nadal is a drug user now. And ATP should be killed.

NamRanger · 11-01-2009, 07:17 AM

Uh oh, the cat's outta the bag now!

And people said the ATP doesn't knowingly cover things up.

Anaconda · 11-01-2009, 07:27 AM

I think it's just unfair on players who have gotten punished for no god damn reason - canas and gasquet. Agassi clearly wen't against the rules and went unpunished.

Anaconda · 11-01-2009, 07:40 AM

And for the life of me i can't quite understand why Agassi has come out with this. Does he want to be disgraced? Doesn he want to screw the ATP? I just don't get it.

Questions will be asked to the ATP about how agassi went under the drugdar and somehow didn't get a ban. Maybe it was due to the fact that he was the 'tennis personality' and many people aspired to be just like him.

He would have lost many aspiring fans methinks. Having said that he has done great things for charity and it's his choice to take drugs.....

tintin · 11-01-2009, 07:57 AM

good grief!
no wonder a current player said Federer is the cleanest world #1 around and that if the ATP were to release the names of superstars that have been caught and tested positive;this would be huge

Dark Victory · 11-01-2009, 08:05 AM

There is no evidence (yet) confirming it, but if any came out, I wouldn't be surprised if news broke how on Rafa took performance enhancing drugs.

It's just a hunch, but I'm amused at how Pete alludes to it in his latest interview. He deflects speculation of course by saying in jest how people around him often bring up the possibility, but hey, as the saying goes, quite often, where there's smoke...

For the good of tennis though, I hope the rumors are wrong.

NamRanger · 11-01-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Anaconda

And for the life of me i can't quite understand why Agassi has come out with this. Does he want to be disgraced? Doesn he want to screw the ATP? I just don't get it.

Questions will be asked to the ATP about how agassi went under the drugdar and somehow didn't get a ban. Maybe it was due to the fact that he was the 'tennis personality' and many people aspired to be just like him.

He would have lost many aspiring fans methinks. Having said that he has done great things for charity and it's his choice to take drugs.....

I think Agassi's doing a good thing by revealing that the ATP willingly covers up superstar players. Now we know the truth, and we can begin the drug clean-up.

BigServer1 · 11-01-2009, 08:06 AM

This has the potential to get really ugly for the ATP...I love(d) Agassi, but this is getting a bit tough to handle. This guy could single handedly bring down the little bit of credit the ATP has left in the U.S. Not exactly what the sport needs considering it's already anemic state in America.

Bjorkman & Johnny Mac · 11-01-2009, 08:11 AM

So guess again if you think pro tennis players even the greats like Fed and Rafa have never beyond a reasonable doubt never might have tried anything to increase their performance levels

namelessone · 11-01-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tintin

good grief!
no wonder a current player said Federer is the cleanest world #1 around and that if the ATP were to release the names of superstars that have been caught and tested positive;this would be huge

If Federer is the cleanest nr.1,what does that say about the ATP? If he is the cleanest,the logical assumption would have to be that most other nr.1 had some "dirt" on them.

I for one don't believe in "dirtyness" in a player unless we can find some proof(but real proof not circumstantial evidence). People don't think of Fed as a doper because of his beautiful,efficient game but I have watched Fed since 2002 and I have rarely seen him sweat when he gets to a 4th or 5h set(except in AO where it's really hot and he had mono at the time). McEnroe,a guy who some to this day consider the epitome of classical,beautiful tennis,took steroids. So God only knows what "machines" like Borg took. If guys were doing this sort of stuff in the 80's what doping agents do you think they are doing today and how are they hiding it since the tech has got better.

People point to Nadal because of his muscles and endurance but feats equaling or surpassing Nadal have been done before in the 80's or 90's by other players. Today most players don't have a tennis players body even if everybody points the finger at Nadal. Most guys today are bigger,faster and have more endurance than their past counterparts. Some say it is due to better conditioning than in the past,some say it's because of doping,some think it's a combination of both.

I for one have no idea if Nadal is guilty or not. I hope he isn't but I also hope another thing: if the ATP do dish out the dirt,let us know all the dirty champions,not just recent ones,although this has a one in a million chance of happening.

And another closing thought about that certain player,who I assume is Santoro. How can he and other tennis players know/suspect things like this and not say a word? They are as guilty in my opinion as the guys covering it up. I saw a TV interview with Nastase who,responding to the recent doping discoveries,said that in his day there were certain high profile players who were suspected of doping by their peers but nothing came out. These are words coming from the first official nr.1 in the Open era,back in the 70's. So if this is true,tennis hasn't been a clean sport for quite some time,even though we all like to think that this is a modern problem.

feetofclay · 11-01-2009, 09:00 AM

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So this whole theory about Nadal getting a positive test before Wimbledon this year doesn't sound so stupid anymore right? But of course he just had a little "knee injury" that's all.

The less you know, the more you make up. Why is Nadal singled out? Why not Monfils, Tsonga, Murray and numerous others? Oh let me guess, because apart from Murray he is the only one who can consistantly beat Herr Federer. Why not try giving Nadal some credit for dedication and hard work + talent. Your
theory and that of others, surrounding Wimbledon sound stupid because that is exactly what they are.

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tintin Professional Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: none of your damn business Posts: 1,438	good grief! no wonder a current player said Federer is the cleanest world #1 around and that if the ATP were to release the names of superstars that have been caught and tested positive;this would be huge __________________ "You can never be bigger than the game and I think you always have to remember that." R.F