Who is your GOAT on each surface?

Bjorkman & Johnny Mac · 11-03-2009, 09:01 AM

Clay-Borg
Grass-Sampras
Rebound Ace- Agassi
Fast Hardcourt-Federer
Indoors-Becker

boojay · 11-03-2009, 09:05 AM

Clay - Borg
Grass - Federer
Aussie HC - Federer
US HC - Federer
Indoors - Federer

If it weren't for goNads, clay would've been Fed too. How scary?

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-03-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

Clay-Borg
Grass-Sampras
Rebound Ace- Agassi
Fast Hardcourt-Federer
Indoors-Becker

Thats a good list.

Mine would look like this:
Clay-Borg
Grass-Sampras/Federer
Rebound Ace-Agassi
Fast Hardcourt-Federer
Indoor-Carpet: Becker/Lendl/Jmac

Gorecki · 11-03-2009, 09:09 AM

to the OP's list i take nothing and add nothing... it's the perfect one.

unless...

Stephane Lambiel - Ice

Bjorkman & Johnny Mac · 11-03-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMagicianOfPrecision

Thats a good list.

Mine would look like this:
Clay-Borg
Grass-Sampras/Federer
Rebound Ace-Agassi
Fast Hardcourt-Federer
Indoor-Carpet: Becker/Lendl/Jmac

Very good list. Of course grass has changed so much maybe we have to divide into eras. Like pre 01-02 faster grass and post 01-02 Slower grass?

Bjorkman & Johnny Mac · 11-03-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by boojay

Clay - Borg
Grass - Federer
Aussie HC - Federer
US HC - Federer
Indoors - Federer

If it weren't for goNads, clay would've been Fed too. How scary?

How do u have Fed as the GOAT for indoor carpeting? its obsolete anymore.

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-03-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

Very good list. Of course grass has changed so much maybe we have to divide into eras. Like pre 01-02 faster grass and post 01-02 Slower grass?

Thanx. Absolutely, according to the "experts" the grass in Wimbledon slowed down in 2002, i guess thats why Hewitt could win it? I doubt Hewitt would have won on the 90`s grass.
GOAT on fast grass: Sampras
slow grass:Federer

TMF · 11-03-2009, 09:15 AM

Goat on each surface:
Australian...Andre(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
RG.............Borg(for now)
SW19.........Pete(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
USO...........Roger

who’s the best on each surface:
Australian....Roger
RG..............Nadal
SW19..........Pete/Roger
USO............Roger

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-03-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

Goat on each surface:
Australian...Andre(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
RG.............Borg(for now)
SW19.........Pete(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
USO...........Roger

who’s the best on each surface:
Australian....Roger
RG..............Nadal
SW19..........Pete/Roger
USO............Roger

Hey TMF, about your sig, did Azzurri really write that??

He seems to me as a very good poster

Bjorkman & Johnny Mac · 11-03-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

Goat on each surface:
Australian...Andre(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
RG.............Borg(for now)
SW19.........Pete(for now), slightly ahead of Roger
USO...........Roger

who’s the best on each surface:
Australian....Roger
RG..............Nadal
SW19..........Pete/Roger
USO............Roger

Roger would have to manage another 2-3 AO's I think to suprass Andre. 2 Wimbeldons to surpass Pete (though he can be arguable I guess if he ties Pete of course that will still be debateable considering most think Pete had more grass court competiton and played under totally different conditions). USO Roger definitely.
Nadal needs another few to surpass Borg. Will Roger actually accomplish these feats though closing in on 30 years of age?

TMF · 11-03-2009, 09:22 AM

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Hey TMF, about your sig, did Azzurri really write that??

Yep.[10 char]

drakulie · 11-03-2009, 09:22 AM

^^^It's being taken out of context. Azzurri meant that it is much worse being defeated in the finals than losing in an earlier round. Once you get to a final, there is more hope, and losing could be devastating as opposed to losing in an earlier round. Winning or losing in a final carries much more weight to it, than winning/losing in an early round. I agree with his assessment.

TheMagicianOfPrecision · 11-03-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by drakulie

^^^It's being taken out of context. Azzurri meant that it is much worse being defeated in the finals than losing in an earlier round. Once you get to a final, there is more hope, and losing could be devastating as opposed to losing in an earlier round. Winning or losing in a final carries much more weight to it, than winning/losing in an early round. I agree with his assessment.

Oh...well that explains it, words taken out of context can easily mess up things

TMF · 11-03-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

Roger would have to manage another 2-3 AO's I think to suprass Andre. 2 Wimbeldons to surpass Pete (though he can be arguable I guess if he ties Pete of course that will still be debateable considering most think Pete had more grass court competiton and played under totally different conditions). USO Roger definitely.
Nadal needs another few to surpass Borg. Will Roger actually accomplish these feats though closing in on 30 years of age?

Roger just need one more AO and arguably he is ahead of Andre. Keep in mind Roger lost to the eventual winners….Safin in 2005, Nole in 2008 and rafa in 2009. But Andre lost to players who never became the eventual champion.

If Federer wins another SW19, that will be his 8th final appearances(Pete only 7). Roger is also the record holder for most consecutive match won on grass. About you saying Pete had more competition, that’s subjective or opinion, not facts.

If Nadal win 6 RG, he’s definitely ahead of Borg b/c of his prowess on other clay tournaments including the MS, and the sheer domination of the entire clay season.

zagor · 11-03-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorkman & Johnny Mac

Clay-Borg
Grass-Sampras
Rebound Ace- Agassi
Fast Hardcourt-Federer
Indoors-Becker

Very good lost,I agree with it except the indoor carpet where I would put Mcenroe as the best ahead of Becker(sligthly though,Boris was a beast indoors).

Andres · 11-03-2009, 12:05 PM

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Very good lost,I agree with it except the indoor carpet where I would put Mcenroe as the best ahead of Becker(sligthly though,Boris was a beast indoors).

I agree with it too, but I'm still undecided if I would put McEnroe or Lendl instead of Becker.

President of Serve/Volley · 11-03-2009, 01:30 PM

Fast Hardcourt should be Pete Sampras...

President of Serve/Volley · 11-03-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boojay

Clay - Borg
Grass - Federer
Aussie HC - Federer
US HC - Federer
Indoors - Federer

If it weren't for goNads, clay would've been Fed too. How scary?

Becker rules indoors and carpet... The greatest carpet player of all time.

Djokovicfan4life · 11-03-2009, 01:58 PM

Clay - Blake
Grass - Lendl
Fast HC - Berasetegui
Indoor carpet - Nadal

11-03-2009, 01:59 PM

Alex Clayton ????? ??????

11-03-2009, 09:01 AM	#1
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Gorecki G.O.A.T. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Puerto y Galgo.... Posts: 12,294	to the OP's list i take nothing and add nothing... it's the perfect one. unless... Stephane Lambiel - Ice __________________ #1 Nadal fan : Surfaces are perfect the way they are. Funny how every time Fed loses, the surface is at fault. How about: the player is at fault? Last edited by Gorecki : 11-03-2009 at 09:14 AM.

11-03-2009, 09:15 AM	#8
TMF G.O.A.T. Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 13,620	Goat on each surface: Australian...Andre(for now), slightly ahead of Roger RG.............Borg(for now) SW19.........Pete(for now), slightly ahead of Roger USO...........Roger who’s the best on each surface: Australian....Roger RG..............Nadal SW19..........Pete/Roger USO............Roger __________________ NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon

11-03-2009, 09:22 AM	#12
drakulie Talk Tennis Guru Join Date: May 2004 Location: FT. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 23,905	^^^It's being taken out of context. Azzurri meant that it is much worse being defeated in the finals than losing in an earlier round. Once you get to a final, there is more hope, and losing could be devastating as opposed to losing in an earlier round. Winning or losing in a final carries much more weight to it, than winning/losing in an early round. I agree with his assessment. __________________ Head Stringer @ the LTC, Babolat Star 4 Stringer http://www.youtube.com/user/drakulie

11-03-2009, 01:58 PM	#19
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