video: are these guys 5.0?

[no1]

Both players are at least 4.5 as they look to be able to beat anyone at the 4.0 level I've played against.

[Mike Cottrill]

Originally Posted by 5263

I expect he does, but that was not a high bounce in the vids, much less insane. I guess from what you are saying, it has some nice action, but it still isn't getting up that high in the vids. The returner was taking them about shoulder high, and he looked on the short side.

He put me into the side fence. He can hit the spots making it vey hard to attack. The movement is the key.

[drakulie]

^^Val, has a big kicker. Period. Seeing it on vid, and in person are very different. The fact that even on vid one could see the movement, and height it gets should be enough for people to understand how much heavier it is live.

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^Val, has a big kicker. Period. Seeing it on vid, and in person are very different. The fact that even on vid one could see the movement, and height it gets should be enough for people to understand how much heavier it is live.

Yup,

Only in the world of internet forums. It's a little comical. One would think, that a player who held a top 100 world ranking would have a decent serve. But not here. Can't wait for the serve critiques. Hope Val is tuning in, so maybe he can really learn something.

[Mike Cottrill]

Originally Posted by drakulie

^^Val, has a big kicker. Period. Seeing it on vid, and in person are very different. The fact that even on vid one could see the movement, and height it gets should be enough for people to understand how much heavier it is live.

^^

I can verify that. I saw the vids, I have returned that serve, and I have seen him use it on players way above my level.. It is easier to return 120+ blasters than this thing. Those vids do not do it justice. If you do not move your feet and use baby steps, you’re hosed.

[JRstriker12]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Seems to me...
It's possible to get 5.0 POINTS based on previous year entry into multiple 5.0 tournaments, maybe getting lucky in singles draw, maybe with addition of doubles draw wins, and be rated in the 5.0's.
Your skill level above could easily be 4.0 or strong 3.5, but you entered a buncha OPEN tournaments and went more than one round in one....
Vid is of a guy around strong 3.5 to 4.0 level, that's all. Points awarded after a season of Open tournaments might have given him some weight towards "5.0".

Not what happened - check his record on tennis link.

[JRstriker12]

New idea for a TV show in Tennis Chan - call it "I can beat that guy."

Average hack contestants are shown YouTube videos of a person playing tennis, then make a wager on the score, by how much they would win or lose.

The contestant then plays the actual guy from the youtube clip and wins prizes/or money based on how close their prediction is. However, if the contestant loses 1 and 1 or worse and doesn't predict that score, the person they play gets their prize.

I'd like to line up some of the "he's a 3.5" crowd here and see what happens.

[mtommer]

Originally Posted by aphex

i thought you didn't play "matches"...lol, muppet...

I don't as a matter of course. It doesn't mean I can't. The offer is quite valid.

[mucat]

Originally Posted by drakulie

Here are some vids of Wilder (serving) in the 45's nationals (finals):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HdWaJ0xwKI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fBa9uGv9Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do55aFv36Bw

more vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIqR2UXGFyU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHFMpmgxUQE

The last 2 serve videos are wicked. First one twisted and pull the receiver outside. The second one got no twist (it even looks like slice, hard to tell from the angle) and the opponent got jammed. And the same freaking serve motion.

[LeeD]

Not saying there not good players, but they aren't 5.0's who have potential to get better!
Wow, did we look so bad 15 years ago?
Looks like me playing in 100 degree weather.

Originally Posted by JRstriker12

New idea for a TV show in Tennis Chan - call it "I can beat that guy."

Average hack contestants are shown YouTube videos of a person playing tennis, then make a wager on the score, by how much they would win or lose.

The contestant then plays the actual guy from the youtube clip and wins prizes/or money based on how close their prediction is. However, if the contestant loses 1 and 1 or worse and doesn't predict that score, the person they play gets their prize.

I'd like to line up some of the "he's a 3.5" crowd here and see what happens.

This has potential.

[VaBeachTennis]

Originally Posted by JRstriker12

New idea for a TV show in Tennis Chan - call it "I can beat that guy."

Average hack contestants are shown YouTube videos of a person playing tennis, then make a wager on the score, by how much they would win or lose.

The contestant then plays the actual guy from the youtube clip and wins prizes/or money based on how close their prediction is. However, if the contestant loses 1 and 1 or worse and doesn't predict that score, the person they play gets their prize.

I'd like to line up some of the "he's a 3.5" crowd here and see what happens.

That would be really fun to watch!!!

[JRstriker12]

Originally Posted by chico9166

This has potential.

Originally Posted by VaBeachTennis

That would be really fun to watch!!!

It's sort of like the Tennis version of the MTV "bully" show. LOL! Have you seen it?

Basically, a person who was bullied gets their bully to go toe-to-toe with a real MMA fighter with the promise of winning a few thousand dollars.

Depending on how the bully does, they either win or lose money to the person they bullied.

For example, they have a submission hold round and the bully loses $500 for everytime he taps out.

It's really funny watching some of these dudes get cut down while thinking they are bad-azzes.......

[5263]

Originally Posted by JRstriker12

New idea for a TV show in Tennis Chan - call it "I can beat that guy."

Average hack contestants are shown YouTube videos of a person playing tennis, then make a wager on the score, by how much they would win or lose.

The contestant then plays the actual guy from the youtube clip and wins prizes/or money based on how close their prediction is. However, if the contestant loses 1 and 1 or worse and doesn't predict that score, the person they play gets their prize.

I'd like to line up some of the "he's a 3.5" crowd here and see what happens.

that would be a good one;
and a lot more realistic than watching someone get pummeled by a pro fighter.

[JRstriker12]

Originally Posted by 5263

that would be a good one;
and a lot more realistic than watching someone get pummeled by a pro fighter.

Funny thing is they tell these dudes they are going up against a pro fighter and they still get baited into it. Most rational people would run the other way...FAST!

For example, there was this one episode where the bully was a pretty big dude - like 6'6", pretty well built and they guy asks him if he knew anything about MMA techniques and the guy just comes up with the BS to sound like he's so tough. He can't admit that he doesn't know anything about martial arts and basically bullies people because he's a big dude and the people he picks on aren't trained fighters....Lucky, the show usually puts a limti on what the fighter can do, like submission holds or take downs only.

[onehandbh]

Originally Posted by 5263

that would be a good one;
and a lot more realistic than watching someone get pummeled by a pro fighter.

If anyone wants to do this in socal, I'll film and edit it.

[MomentumGT]

Originally Posted by onehandbh

If anyone wants to do this in socal, I'll film and edit it.

I can provide pro mma fighters for this event. Couple of buddies are training for a show, so they should be in pretty good shape.

-Jon

[Blade0324]

I really find it humerous to see people here defend the two guys in the video. In my area, Colorado, they would be 3.5 based on ground strokes and volleys, and 4.0 based on serve. I'd say they are propably 4.0 but would lose most of their matches at that level as most 4.0's here are far more consistant than that. I have a number of 4.5 and 5.0 friends that these guys would be lucky to get a couple games off of. I don't buy the whole you can't tell from video thing. I have seen video of 4.5-5.0 players that show much better skill and shotmaking than this.

[Rambler124]

Originally Posted by Blade0324

I really find it humerous to see people here defend the two guys in the video. In my area, Colorado, they would be 3.5 based on ground strokes and volleys, and 4.0 based on serve. I'd say they are propably 4.0 but would lose most of their matches at that level as most 4.0's here are far more consistant than that. I have a number of 4.5 and 5.0 friends that these guys would be lucky to get a couple games off of. I don't buy the whole you can't tell from video thing. I have seen video of 4.5-5.0 players that show much better skill and shotmaking than this.

Shhhhhhh....

This thread was dead and I liked it that way.

[JRstriker12]

Originally Posted by Blade0324

I really find it humerous to see people here defend the two guys in the video. In my area, Colorado, they would be 3.5 based on ground strokes and volleys, and 4.0 based on serve. I'd say they are propably 4.0 but would lose most of their matches at that level as most 4.0's here are far more consistant than that. I have a number of 4.5 and 5.0 friends that these guys would be lucky to get a couple games off of. I don't buy the whole you can't tell from video thing. I have seen video of 4.5-5.0 players that show much better skill and shotmaking than this.