Do I Still Have TE?

JackB1 · 12-02-2009, 06:35 AM

OK, here's my story.....

I got back into tennis 3 months ago and played A LOT to start off with, with bad technique and an awful 1HBH and stiff racquet. I have since learned technique, switched to a 2HBH and a flexible racquet and things are much better, but......I still have pain, mostly after I play. If I straighten my arm out completely and stretch out my fingers, I feel a pain on the outside of my elbow. If I relax my arm, I feel nothing. It's not a terrible pain, but it's like a mild, sharp pain and I get it after every time I play. It subsides after a day or 2. Is this still my lingering TE? Can I just accept this as part of the deal and keep playing with it? I always ice after playing and take Aleve afterwards. I can play almost every day and I really don't feel it during play, unless I fully extend my arm on an overhead or similar shot.

Is this typical for a 50 yr old guy? Any advice would be appreciated.

Mazilla2219 · 12-02-2009, 06:44 AM

Is any other part of your body sore? If so, lets chalk it up to old age, but from what you are describing it does sound like your TE is lingering. Did you rest at all when you felt the original pain? From what you stated you've already tried ICE and NSAIDS and the pain still remains after you play. From my experience with my medial TE (pain on the inside of my arm near the elbow with palm facing up.) I had tried taking NSIADS and ICE and had to resort to stop playing for an extended period of time 1-2 weeks. After that I started up slowing playing again (1-2 days a week) with doing some forearm workouts in between. Take a rest from tennis for awhile, focus on your coniditioning in the interim. If it hurts let it rest.

JackB1 · 12-02-2009, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazilla2219

Is any other part of your body sore? If so, lets chalk it up to old age, but from what you are describing it does sound like your TE is lingering. Did you rest at all when you felt the original pain? From what you stated you've already tried ICE and NSAIDS and the pain still remains after you play. From my experience with my medial TE (pain on the inside of my arm near the elbow with palm facing up.) I had tried taking NSIADS and ICE and had to resort to stop playing for an extended period of time 1-2 weeks. After that I started up slowing playing again (1-2 days a week) with doing some forearm workouts in between. Take a rest from tennis for awhile, focus on your coniditioning in the interim. If it hurts let it rest.

It is lingering, but it's not getting worse and is slowly getting better. WHen it began and was really bad, I did take about 1 week off, but that's it. I then continued to play 2-4 times per week.

I was just wondering how many guys continue to play with this minor pain afterwards and if it's not getting worse, is there any risk?

mike53 · 12-02-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

Can I just accept this as part of the deal and keep playing with it? I always ice after playing and take Aleve afterwards.

Yes you can, but you will be accepting the risk that is will get worse with time. Getting yourself on an every other day targeted program like this:

http://orthopedics.about.com/gi/o.ht...hw/nirschl.htm

would probably keep your elbow healthy indefinitely. And I might cut back on the ice and aleve unless you have visible swelling or a recent trauma. The goal is 100% range of motion, non-medicated pain free during your tennis.

yemenmocha · 12-02-2009, 07:19 AM

You don't want it worse. I had 6 months off with therapy and cortisone, then a failed comeback, and now almost 12 months later I'm still not able to hit.

This is far worse than breaking your arm or leg (which heals much faster).

Take this very, very seriously.

Mazilla2219 · 12-02-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

I then continued to play 2-4 times per week.

I was just wondering how many guys continue to play with this minor pain afterwards and if it's not getting worse, is there any risk?

Is this 2-4x/week in a row or spaced out, if the pain is minor and you still want to play at least space it out as someone else mentioned. I still get a twinge around the arm area every once in awhile, but I am still doing some therapy.

tstar · 12-02-2009, 08:14 AM

[quote=JackB1;4165997]I have since learned technique, switched to a 2HBH and a flexible racquet

What racquet are you using. I also got back into tennis this past summer and the last time I've swung a racquet was 10-31. I'm doing some PT and ice, but a flexible racquet is probably some I should consider.

Thanks,

Tony

Mazilla2219 · 12-02-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

I have since learned technique, switched to a 2HBH and a flexible racquet

What racquet are you using. I also got back into tennis this past summer and the last time I've swung a racquet was 10-31. I'm doing some PT and ice, but a flexible racquet is probably some I should consider.

Thanks,

Tony

Tony, what racquet were you using prior?

tstar · 12-02-2009, 08:27 AM

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Tony, what racquet were you using prior?

The Head TI.S6 which I now realize is to stiff, but I like this racquet. I was thinking of going natural gut at the lowest tension, but maybe a new flex type stick is in my future.

JackB1 · 12-02-2009, 11:32 AM

[quote=tstar;4166218]

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Originally Posted by JackB1

I have since learned technique, switched to a 2HBH and a flexible racquet

What racquet are you using. I also got back into tennis this past summer and the last time I've swung a racquet was 10-31. I'm doing some PT and ice, but a flexible racquet is probably some I should consider.

Thanks,

Tony

I currently use a Head Youtek Radical Pro, which is very good for the arm.

tstar · 12-02-2009, 11:47 AM

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I currently use a Head Youtek Radical Pro, which is very good for the arm.

I saw in another thread that you previously had the RDiS 300. What did you like and dislike about the Yonex? Sorry about the thread drift

JackB1 · 12-02-2009, 12:28 PM

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I saw in another thread that you previously had the RDiS 300. What did you like and dislike about the Yonex? Sorry about the thread drift

I liked everything about it EXCEPT it felt a little stiff for me.

Bud · 12-02-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

It is lingering, but it's not getting worse and is slowly getting better. WHen it began and was really bad, I did take about 1 week off, but that's it. I then continued to play 2-4 times per week.

I was just wondering how many guys continue to play with this minor pain afterwards and if it's not getting worse, is there any risk?

Check out the DMSO thread

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...ht=dmso&page=2

My experience starts on post #27

Also, what frame and strings are you currently using?

JackB1 · 12-02-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud

Check out the DMSO thread

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...ht=dmso&page=2

My experience starts on post #27

Also, what frame and strings are you currently using?

What the heck is DMSO exactly and where do I buy it? Isn't it toxic?

86golf · 12-02-2009, 01:37 PM

If you are having pain even after taking Aleve, then yes you have some TE issues. It would be my opinion to get off the Aleve, drop tennis for 2 weeks, use heat and stretching exercises that others have recommended.

For me that has really helped. Playing and icing is just going to continue to inflam those tendons.

Bud · 12-02-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

What the heck is DMSO exactly and where do I buy it? Isn't it toxic?

*hint*

Read the thread

JackB1 · 12-03-2009, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bud

*hint*

Read the thread

I did! The thread mostly talks about guys applying it and experiences, but doesn't really explain what it is.

mike53 · 12-03-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JackB1

I did! The thread mostly talks about guys applying it and experiences, but doesn't really explain what it is.

It's a chemical solvent that can be used as a pain reliever.

JackB1 · 12-03-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mike53

It's a chemical solvent that can be used as a pain reliever.

so it won't help to cure anything then? it will just mask the pain?

isnt that similar to those "heat rubs" like Ben-Gay?

mike53 · 12-03-2009, 07:44 AM

That's what I would suppose. Back in the 80's I tried dissolving crushed aspirin tablets in DMSO and applying the mixture to an inflamed 1st mtp joint. The solvent properties of the DMSO penetrate the skin and carried the aspirin directly into the joint sac. But I quit that and solved the problem with better shoes and improved technique.

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JackB1 Legend Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 8,319	Do I Still Have TE? OK, here's my story..... I got back into tennis 3 months ago and played A LOT to start off with, with bad technique and an awful 1HBH and stiff racquet. I have since learned technique, switched to a 2HBH and a flexible racquet and things are much better, but......I still have pain, mostly after I play. If I straighten my arm out completely and stretch out my fingers, I feel a pain on the outside of my elbow. If I relax my arm, I feel nothing. It's not a terrible pain, but it's like a mild, sharp pain and I get it after every time I play. It subsides after a day or 2. Is this still my lingering TE? Can I just accept this as part of the deal and keep playing with it? I always ice after playing and take Aleve afterwards. I can play almost every day and I really don't feel it during play, unless I fully extend my arm on an overhead or similar shot. Is this typical for a 50 yr old guy? Any advice would be appreciated. __________________ Wilson Black Blade 104 - NXT Tour / Copoly at 55/51

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