Most lopsided h2h against a #1 in a slam final

[RCizzle65]

Originally Posted by AAAA

But what was the h2h before the final on grass? Did Seles own Graf on glass be a big margin like Nadal does against Federer on clay?

This sealed the deal, the topic is just asking for an argument about Nadal and Federer...

[AAAA]

Originally Posted by RCizzle65

This sealed the deal, the topic is just asking for an argument about Nadal and Federer...

Read the conditions I posted. I'm not asking for people to discuss the 2008 FO match between Nadal and Federer. There are dozens of other threads to do that. This is different.

I'm asking for other matches between other players where the challenger had a huge leading h2h score against the number #1 ranked player in a slam final.

If you see this as a thread about Nadal-Federer then your interpretation isn't what I intended.

[Blinkism]

Originally Posted by aphex

lol......


Most lopsided h2h against a Swiss #1 in a slam final in Paris
by a lefty 22 year-old spaniard who himself became no.1 later in the same year...

Ah, thanks for the correction, aphex.

My trolling skill level has dropped in the offseason, unfortunately.

[AAAA]

Originally Posted by DMan

#1 Seles got slammed by Graf 6-2,6-1 in the 1992 Wimbledon finals.

That was their first meeting on grass so Graf didn't have a huge leading h2h over Seles on the surface so the match wasn't what I was asking for.

[DMan]

Originally Posted by AAAA

That was their first meeting on grass so Graf didn't have a huge leading h2h over Seles on the surface so the match wasn't what I was asking for.

It was their second meeting on grass. Just as a reminder to all, in their first meeting on grass, Graf lost one game. Yup, 1 game: 1989 4R at Wimbledon: Graf d. Seles 6-0,6-1.

So, just what are you looking for? An exact replication of the Federer and Nadal situation? There is no historical precedence.

[AAAA]

Originally Posted by Blinkism

Ah, thanks for the correction, aphex.

My trolling skill level has dropped in the offseason, unfortunately.

Here's a fictitious example of what qualifies.

John the #1 in the world plays Bob in a hard court slam final. Bob has a huge 12-1 h2h score over John on hard courts.


If Bob was losing 12-1 in the h2h then it wouldn't count.

[AAAA]

Originally Posted by DMan

It was their second meeting on grass. Just as a reminder to all, in their first meeting on grass, Graf lost one game. Yup, 1 game: 1989 4R at Wimbledon: Graf d. Seles 6-0,6-1.

So, just what are you looking for? An exact replication of the Federer and Nadal situation? There is no historical precedence.

Yep 2nd meeting

My source is only partially sorted
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/h...4~2718,00.html


What am I looking for?
Anything of format

#1 player in slam final who has a big losing h2h score with the challenger.

Historical precedence? Anything close like 1-5 or more. 1 win for the #1 and 5 for the challenger.

[kOaMaster]

there haven't been too many slam finals with the #1 in it and the challenger winning anyway...
you won't find more than 10-15 player pairs I think.

[gunnd5000]

roddick vs fed wimby final in 04 was a-rod number one then

[dropshot winner]

Originally Posted by gunnd5000

roddick vs fed wimby final in 04 was a-rod number one then

No, Federer was #1 after the 2004 AO.

[TheNatural]

The most lopsided score against a world #1 in slam final was Fed at the 2008 FO final.

[Datacipher]

The match that springs to mind is Sampras' hammering of Agassi at Wimbledon 99. It wasn't as close as the score indicated.

[nCode2010]

Originally Posted by TheNatural

The most lopsided score against a world #1 in slam final was Fed at the 2008 FO final.

And what is your point other then trolling?

[Joe Pike]

Originally Posted by AAAA

The title says it all. The most lopsided surface dependent h2h (Edit: not in favour of ) a #1 in a slam final . I'm not interested in rhetoric, opinions, english or any other language you may write in. I just want to know about players ranked #1 in a slam final who faced opponents with really advantageous h2h scores on the surface the slam is played on and state their ages at the of the match.

From memory the most lopsided matchup against the #1 ranked player in a slam final I can think of is when Federer faced Nadal in the 2008 FO final

Federer was 1-8 on clay entering the final against Nadal and 27 vs 21/22 in age. As expected Federer lost. Badly.

Any other #1 face a tougher than Federer's 1-8 record?

Add your picks below. List the match, year and the losing h2h score of the player ranked #1 going into the final.

Sanchez was 4-11 on clay entering the FO 95 final against Graf and 23 vs. 25 in age. Sanchez lost in three sets.

[AAAA]

Originally Posted by Joe Pike

Sanchez was 4-11 on clay entering the FO 95 final against Graf and 23 vs. 25 in age. Sanchez lost in three sets.

If Sanchez was number #1 before the match then you understand the question.

[Blinkism]

Mats Wilander was 1-4 against Ivan Lendl on hardcourts, and 7-15 in their overall H2H, when he beat Lendl in the 1988 US Open final.