Nadal's performance in the future wimbledons - Page 3

drakulie · 12-22-2009, 09:12 AM

^^That too.

djokovicgonzalez2010 · 12-22-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drakulie

^^That too.

Is ur sig a real quote?

TMF · 12-22-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Turning Pro

The doctors quote's prove otherwise, it's like saying federer never had mono, back problems.

If he skipped a small tournament, then it’s sounds right. But somehow he skipped SW19, that automatically raise a question since hardly any player skipped SW19 after winning the previous year. It doesn’t make any sense not to play his favorite GS. Roger had physical problem in 2008 but he still play on whether if it’s a GS or small tourneys, even with the bad back he still plays WTF. Roger isn’t afraid to lose, but Rafa is terrify. Big difference.

ksbh · 12-22-2009, 09:18 AM

One swallow doesn't make a summer, Pam'e!

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Thank you for bringing back pleasant memories of that service game of Fed's in the 5th set of their past Wimbledon match of 2007 - right after he'd broken Nadal. 3 superb aces and one second serve not returned in play. Marvellous stuff

World Beater · 12-22-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ksbh

Federer served absurdly well because it was lame duck Roddick across the net. Had it been Nadal, the serve statistics would be very different for Federer!
Federer knows he can go for broke on the first serve against Roddick because if it misses it's mark, he can send in a safe second serve, get the ball in play and outmaneuver Roddick. Against Rafa, it's a risky poposition. Just look at their past matches and you'll know what I'm saying.

yep...just like he served in the masters cup ...4 straight bomb aces at 15-40 passed lame duck wafa. wafa was crushed and proceeded to get destroyed in the second set.

nadal said "federer serve was unreturnable"

Turning Pro · 12-22-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

If he skipped a small tournament, then it’s sounds right. But somehow he skipped SW19, that automatically raise a question since hardly any player skipped SW19 after winning the previous year. It doesn’t make any sense not to play his favorite GS. Roger had physical problem in 2008 but he still play on whether if it’s a GS or small tourneys, even with the bad back he still plays WTF. Roger isn’t afraid to lose, but Rafa is terrify. Big difference.

He skipped Queens AND Wimbledon, it's not like he played Queens then skipped Wimby. And federer didn't have an injury ( mild mono), it wouldn't have damaged his career long term if he continued playing (e.g he got to all 4 gs finals in one year, major mono my ***.)

drakulie · 12-22-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

Is ur sig a real quote?

No, but the video attached is real news footage, and was reported while Wimbledon was underway.

djokovicgonzalez2010 · 12-22-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by drakulie

No, but the video attached is real news footage, and was reported while Wimbledon was underway.

I think I saw the vid on THASP

CMM · 12-22-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

I think I saw the vid on THASP

djokovicgonzalez2010 · 12-22-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CMM

I'm not really sure why I started hating Rafa, who seems like a pretty nice guy aside from the steroid thing. I used to be a Fed fan so.... maybe that's where it started...

ksbh · 12-22-2009, 10:14 AM

WB ... Nadal dominates Federer at the slams.

I have never presented any objections to the fact that outside of the slams, Nadal has little chance against Federer, except on clay. So I'm not surprised about the beatings that Federer hands out to Rafa at the Masters Cup.

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Originally Posted by World Beater

yep...just like he served in the masters cup ...4 straight bomb aces at 15-40 passed lame duck wafa. wafa was crushed and proceeded to get destroyed in the second set.

nadal said "federer serve was unreturnable"

CMM · 12-22-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

I'm not really sure why I started hating Rafa, who seems like a pretty nice guy aside from the steroid thing. I used to be a Fed fan so.... maybe that's where it started...

I couldn't care less about your hate. You shouldn't have posted the link of the site of a psychopath.

djokovicgonzalez2010 · 12-22-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CMM

I couldn't care less about your hate. You shouldn't have posted the link of the site of a psychopath.

I agree it's a bit extreme but the occasions he makes good points keep me going there...

namelessone · 12-22-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TMF

If he skipped a small tournament, then it’s sounds right. But somehow he skipped SW19, that automatically raise a question since hardly any player skipped SW19 after winning the previous year. It doesn’t make any sense not to play his favorite GS. Roger had physical problem in 2008 but he still play on whether if it’s a GS or small tourneys, even with the bad back he still plays WTF. Roger isn’t afraid to lose, but Rafa is terrify. Big difference.

I don't normally take this tone on this forum,but I have to ask: are you a moron?

Everyone is "terrified" of losing because they play to win. How on earth do you expect us to believe that Nadal skipped Wimbledon because he was scared to play? And you have to remember that SW19 is his favourite tournament. Nadal skipped because he had physical problems,TENDINITIS and it was serious,he played with pain since April. Wimbledon started on the 22nd of June. Knees don't know what tournament is up next. If you can't play,you can't play,simple as that. Why are people acting as if this the only GS Nadal has skipped because of injury? Have you forgotten RG 04' and AO 06'?
Nadal played 2 exo's and felt that his knees affected his game enough to seriously jeopardise his chances and I think he learned from his RG debacle as well. Remember,he lost a set in an exo to nr.109 in the world before RG and entered with physical problems,on his best surface,and couldn't make it past 4th round. What chance did he have in wimbledon,with the same knee problems and on a surface where you have to bend a lot more?

Somehow I think if Nadal played 1-2 rounds with bum knees(and thus worsening his condition) and got eliminated,many people around here wouldn't be as adamant about his wimbledon withdrawal.

Yeah,Roger had physical problems last year. His decision of going ahead to play says that they weren't serious enough to effect his game massively. Nadal entered RG with problems thinking he could deal with it and paid the price at WB. Nadal played on his worst surface in the late summer-autumn period and got kicked around a lot. Why didn't he retire after the first few beatings? Wasn't he "scared of losing" after so many beatdowns? He didn't retire because he had no reason to,he was relatively fine physically(other than a small abdomen problem in USO).

If Nadal feels physically good enough,he plays. Simple as that. His mistake has been of not knowing when to let tournaments go,like Madrid or Rotterdam this year.

CMM · 12-22-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

I agree it's a bit extreme but the occasions he makes good points keep me going there...

So you have seen Hewitt's sister and you're still his fan. Good for you.

drakulie · 12-22-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

I think I saw the vid on THASP

The video is a news agency that completes several reports on Rafa.

and yes, the site you point out brings up many interesting points.

djokovicgonzalez2010 · 12-22-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CMM

So you have seen Hewitt's sister and you're still his fan. Good for you.

I have actually not... and Gonzo is my fave player, I changed my avatar today for Aus. swing and I do like him... give me the link.. I look at it rather rarely.

CMM · 12-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djokovicgonzalez2010

I have actually not... and Gonzo is my fave player, I changed my avatar today for Aus. swing and I do like him... give me the link.. I look at it rather rarely.

Doesn't matter... According to that guy, all the players (except Federer, of course) are using steroids. Including the ones from your sig.

JoshDragon · 12-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay lover

Well, Nadal's future hardcourt success is currently under heated discussion

and it is getting a little old for me.

I just want to hear your opinions on his future performance in Wimbledon. We haven't been able to see Nadal on grass this year (I mean REAL matches) and I wonder how well he can perform when he is back next year at the grass season.

On one hand, we can say that the big hitters have already got Nadal's number and they can translate their hardcourt success against Nadal on to the grass surface. But on the other hand, one could also argue that Nadal has traditionally struggled on fast hardcourts anyway and this is irrelevant to his grasscourt success, and he may well pick up his confidence and step up his game as a three-time finalist and 08 champion on his favourite surface (that's what he says).

I presonally don't have a clue. That's why I am asking for your opinions. However, I certainly do HOPE that he will come back to be a strong grasscourt player next year so that things will be interesting again

I think Nadal is going to win Wimbledon at least 1 more time. He's just too strong of a contender to rule him out and he doesn't have anyone nipping at his heels right now.

The other younger players aren't that great on grass, Djokovic and Murray have 2 semis between them and Del Potro is largely unproven.

In my blog I picked him to win Wimbledon next year.

namelessone · 12-22-2009, 10:33 AM

THASP?

That site makes for some killer laughs. For every interesting point that they make,they bring up two or three bogus posts and they completely lose their credibility.

I especially love the ones about tiger's doctor,who is supposedly supplying PED to nfl players and swimmers. So why shouldn't golfers be doping,amirite? I mean,look,he is tiger's doctor,who the hell knows what he is giving him? I'm sure he is blood doping,he needs it because it must be exhausting going from one hole to another in that little cart. Oh,and apparently Albert Costa having heart problems means that he must have doped in the past. Briliant

Oh,and serena's outburt is a case of roid rage according to them. Sure,that seems likely,not the fact that she is a major ***** on court when things aren't going her way.

What I dislike most about the site is that it caters to the idea that big muscles=PED use. That's just plain wrong. And almost all their pictures show athletes in full swing,when their muscles are pumped up. They should show them in a relaxed state and maybe then we can draw our own conclusions.
And even then we can't know. Remember Korda? How huge was he?

View Poll Results: How well will Nadal do in the future wimbledons?
Finalist/Champion	39	49.37%
Contender but never in the finals again	30	37.97%
Not a contender	10	12.66%
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