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Old 12-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #1
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Now I'm not a Nadal basher but I just have to post this. Fastforward to 1:18, Nadal spent like 50 seconds between a point! And at :24, he spends 28 seconds after a let call. Too funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jfvvaEPfcI
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:14 PM   #2
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You don't have to be a "Nadal-basher" to notice that he does takes his time, yes.
But it's not up to him whether he does so or not - it's up to the UMPIRES to enforce the rules. As long as they don't do their jobs properly, you can't blame the players taking advantage of that, no?
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:17 PM   #3
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I know, it's just funny as hell in this case. You could see that the crowd was a bit amused.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:23 PM   #4
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Now go watch the Sampras Federer match of 2002, and they were 3 all in the first set in less than 16 minutes.. Not once did either player go for a towel, or look at a box for assistance... The game has gone to **** with these lazy plunks.....
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It doesn't bother me.
I don't like that he lets his opponents and the umpire waiting at the net, at the beginning of the match.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:34 PM   #6
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It DOES bother me, but then again - if the umpires don't do their job properly, who's to blame?
Surely not the players.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:50 PM   #7
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don't be too harsh. the guy cannot serve. probably is too nervous (and even is p*ssing in his pants if the guy on the other side of the net is djokovic or davydenko or soderling) to get one past the net.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:57 PM   #8
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I dont hate nadal either and think hes one hell of a player and a fighter(one of the best of all time) and like watching him play for the most part. but the time wasting is plain ridiculous and pisses me off. I agree with you music lover, hopefully they will crack down.
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I dont hate nadal either and think hes one hell of a player and a fighter(one of the best of all time) and like watching him play for the most part. but the time wasting is plain ridiculous and pisses me off. I agree with you music lover, hopefully they will crack down.
If the umpires continue 'sleeping' (read: kiss the top player's asses) nothing's going to change, no.
But then again, you just can't blame the players for taking advantage of that. It's not their job.
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Carlos Ramos tried to enforce the rules at the French Open giving Nadal two time warnings, after that Uncle Toni complained that Ramos is a bad umpire and he doesn't want him doing anymore of Rafa's matches.

So, now the umpires just let him get away with it.
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There have always been players who like to take their time. Lendl was one of them. I think the players have less time now because of him.
For Nadal, it's true that he takes his time, but look how much he plays. You compare him to Sampras. He was an ace machine. I couldn't watch him actually. I completely lost interest for men tennis during the nineties because of players like him (Sampras, Becker who was still there, Ivanisevic, Krajicek). I could only watch tennis on clay.
What I mean is that even if Nadal takes a lot of time between points, he still gives me more tennis than most players. His points are generally long and spectacular. The guy gives everything he has. That's what I wanna see when I watch tennis.
I guess you never find a Sampras-type of player who takes his time between points, do you?
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Carlos Ramos tried to enforce the rules at the French Open giving Nadal two time warnings, after that Uncle Toni complained that Ramos is a bad umpire and he doesn't want him doing anymore of Rafa's matches.

So, now the umpires just let him get away with it.
So tell me, is Ramos from that moment on prohibited to umpire any of Rafa's matches? I haven't noticed that, might just be me...?

Whatsoever, the umpires should just DO THEIR JOBS, but I can well see where the problem comes from... Guess those umpires' knees are even weaker than Nadal's!
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Carlos Ramos tried to enforce the rules at the French Open giving Nadal two time warnings, after that Uncle Toni complained that Ramos is a bad umpire and he doesn't want him doing anymore of Rafa's matches.

So, now the umpires just let him get away with it.
So basically it's like Animal Farm, all players are equal, but the top-players are "more equal"...
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So basically it's like Animal Farm, all players are equal, but the top-players are "more equal"...
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So tell me, is Ramos from that moment on prohibited to umpire any of Rafa's matches? I haven't noticed that, might just be me...?

Whatsoever, the umpires should just DO THEIR JOBS, but I can well see where the problem comes from... Guess those umpires' knees are even weaker than Nadal's!
I think he has umpired some of his matches since, the incident was in 2006.
Funny stuff, Uncle Toni said the the umpire was looking at him too much.

PARIS -- Rafael Nadal's uncle and coach, Toni, complained about the officiating of his nephew's French Open semifinal Friday, calling chair umpire Carlos Ramos "horrible."

Ramos warned Nadal for taking too much time between points during his three-set victory over Ivan Ljubicic.

"He was hurrying him all the time. A horrible attitude," Toni Nadal said.

The coach also said Ramos told Carlos Costa, the player's agent, to be quiet after Costa yelled encouragement during the match

"In my opinion, the umpire was totally incorrect. He was constantly trying to provoke our side, throwing us looks," Toni Nadal said.

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im scared to watch the video in fears of falling asleep from waiting for the people to serve lol

but seriously why arent the umpires counting the players if i was an umpire i could care less about the whole stadium hating me i would call time penaltys if they take longer than whats allowed, its my job just like that lines lady on serena lol
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I think he has umpired some of his matches since, the incident was in 2006.
Funny stuff, Uncle Toni said the the umpire was looking at him too much.

PARIS -- Rafael Nadal's uncle and coach, Toni, complained about the officiating of his nephew's French Open semifinal Friday, calling chair umpire Carlos Ramos "horrible."

Ramos warned Nadal for taking too much time between points during his three-set victory over Ivan Ljubicic.

"He was hurrying him all the time. A horrible attitude," Toni Nadal said.

The coach also said Ramos told Carlos Costa, the player's agent, to be quiet after Costa yelled encouragement during the match

"In my opinion, the umpire was totally incorrect. He was constantly trying to provoke our side, throwing us looks," Toni Nadal said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...322&type=story

Nothing seems to have changed since then... whatsoever.

My point still stands - who's to blame for this? Nadal? Djokovic?
Don't think so - ***** kissing ATP, perhaps? Nothing's going to change as long as you & I will keep on paying all those $$$$$$ for them tournament tickets, no?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyirCyhC8ZU

Here is the match highlights where Carlos Ramos warned Nadal ,watch right at the beginning Nadal's routine before he serves:

- First he has to clean the baseline with his foot
-than he has to smack the clay off his shoes
-than adjust both socks
-than clean the line again
-bounce the ball, stop and look at his opponent
-bounce the ball again than finally serve.

He wins the point than walks half way across the court to towel off and start the whole routine again,it takes so long they replay the entire point in slow motion on TV, before he is ready to serve again, classic.
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^^ I don't think there should be any a discussion on whether Nadal or Djokovic, or DelPotro, or whoever indeed are time-wasters. They all are, should be obvious, unless you are too blind to see.

The main point is, why don't those umpires do anything about it???

I think I know why.
Has something to do with Top Players = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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^^ I don't think there should be any a discussion on whether Nadal or Djokovic, or DelPotro, or whoever indeed are time-wasters. They all are, should be obvious, unless you are too blind to see.

The main point is, why don't those umpires do anything about it???

I think I know why.
Has something to do with Top Players = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Maybe there is a reason why top players take a lot of time between points. The game is hard. What the public wants is the best tennis possible. That's all. I don't give a **** about the time wasted between points if the points are spectacular. If they are not, I stop watching.
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