Where did this "Nadal has OCD" thing come from?

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by Puma

Yes, he breaks some of his on court things after a violatin. But, he goes back to it rather quickly. Also, without some intense evalutation we have no idea the degrees of his compulsion with his water bottles vs his picking at his clothing etc. In other words, it is quite possible that there are other things that are more compulsive than what is mentioned here. Also, if you know much about OCD, you would realize that there are levels of this condition and it is often a combination of things that are working together to makes the symptoms apparent to you and I. Taking one or two of his compulsions away (temporary) may not be that big a deal to him.

Again,even a minor OCD dosent just spring up during match-play.It would be evident in his daily life and it would require him to seek help.Again its the Nadal fans who claimed he has it and did so without a shred of evidence.People are obviously going to contradict this given the absence of evidence.

[rommil]

OK ok Nadal has OCD= Obsessively Creating Delays...


What's does Nadal's OCD acronym mean to you?

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by rommil

OK ok Nadal has OCD= Obsessively Creating Delays...


What's does Nadal's OCD acronym mean to you?

Obsessively Creating Disruption of the opponent's rhythm/momentum
OR
Obessive Compulsive Disprespect of the opponent's time

[Puma]

Originally Posted by mandy01

Again,even a minor OCD dosent just spring up during match-play.It would be evident in his daily life and it would require him to seek help.Again its the Nadal fans who claimed he has it and did so without a shred of evidence.People are obviously going to contradict this given the absence of evidence.

You obviously know very little about OCD. This is apparent.

I didn't say anything about his OCD springing up during match play. As far as evidence, his behavior speaks for itself. It is you who cannot recognize this for what it is.

OCD can be a disabling condition. It also can be mild. It is only when the OCD is such that it begins to effect a persons well being that there is a need for help of some kind. Many people exhibits OCD behaviors and are quite functional. Others OCD is sever enough that help is required. Your claim that it (OCD) would be evident in his daily life requiring him to seek help is evident that you have no idea about OCD.

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by Puma

You obviously know very little about OCD. This is apparent.

I didn't say anything about his OCD springing up during match play. As far as evidence, his behavior speaks for itself. It is you who cannot recognize this for what it is.

OCD can be a disabling condition. It also can be mild. It is only when the OCD is such that it begins to effect a persons well being that there is a need for help of some kind. Many people exhibits OCD behaviors and are quite functional. Others OCD is sever enough that help is required. Your claim that it (OCD) would be evident in his daily life requiring him to seek help is evident that you have no idea about OCD.

Ok..It seems you have your own definition of it and will even contradict those who've actually had it and spoken about it here and have stated that they dont believe Nadal has it.
Whatever.I'm not going waste my time arguing with Nadal fanatics who'll refute /twist facts to support their arguments.
Show me the official evidence of Nadal having it .Until then,I stand by what I said.

[Puma]

Originally Posted by mandy01

Ok..It seems you have your own definition of it and will even contradict those who've actually had it and spoken about it here and have stated that they dont believe Nadal has it.
Whatever.I'm not going waste my time arguing with Nadal fanatics who'll refute /twist facts to support their arguments.
Show me the official evidence of Nadal having it .Until then,I stand by what I said.

I'm not a Nadal fanatic. Neither have I commented on his time wasting and how it might relate to OCD nor have I twisted fact or refuted anything. Nothing I have said would contradict someone who has OCD and how OCD might effect them vs. Nadals behavior.

You stated that OCD is a seriouse condition. It can be, but is not in many cases. In fact many people exhibit these behaviors. This is my point! Nadals behaviors are very OCD like and its not a stretch by anymeans to say he is OCD.

Don't accuse me of twisting anything. I have been clear on this.

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by Puma

I'm not a Nadal fanatic. Neither have I commented on his time wasting and how it might relate to OCD nor have I twisted fact or refuted anything. Nothing I have said would contradict someone who has OCD and how OCD might effect them vs. Nadals behavior.

You stated that OCD is a seriouse condition. It can be, but is not in many cases. In fact many people exhibit these behaviors. This is my point! Nadals behaviors are very OCD like and its not a stretch by anymeans to say he is OCD.

Don't accuse me of twisting anything. I have been clear on this.

I said before,I'll say it again-Even a minor form of OCD can be disturbing for the patient.And no you havent been clear on anything.Again READ this thread properly..
What Nadal does on court does NOT define his 'behaviour' .Again,those are mostly habits/superstitions which he finds hard to get rid off completely.But he can curb them and it dosent affect his game at all.Do you see him suddenly going down in a match or something?

Finding someone's behaviour 'OCD-like' dosent immediately account for OCD.Especially if its someone you dont know personally.
Even a minor form of OCD needs to be treated.Period.Its a psychological disorder and cannot go untreated.
Now answer this-Do you know how Nadal behaves off court?Are these rituals seen off court? If not how can you classify his behaviour as OCD just based on what you see on court?
Again,a player's ritual does NOT qualify for OCD.Some players do need to follow certain patterns of rituals to get 'in the zone' during a match.That way they focus better.
Unless you elaborate on specific patterns that you think he follows on and off court there's no point saying he has OCD.For eg- doing things like switching the lights on and off repeatedly.Even minor form of OCD HAS to be visible off court.
Now go read the thread again.
And if you still want to disagree and keep insisting that he has 'mild OCD' just by seeing him on court then I have nothing more to say.
edit-You are a Nadal fanatic by your own admission on a previous page.And I have no interest in folks like you coming up with half-baked knowledge and telling me 'mild OCD' needs no attention.

[CzechM8]

Just please don't anyone post any clinical or whatever other evidence that Nadal has OCD. Apart from the fact that it's completely irrelevant, there'd be at least two "OCD, where can I get it?" threads every week...followed by "How can I become narcissistic?" posted by Fed fans.

[Puma]

Originally Posted by mandy01

I said before,I'll say it again-Even a minor form of OCD can be disturbing for the patient.And no you havent been clear on anything.Again READ this thread properly..
What Nadal does on court does NOT define his 'behaviour' .Again,those are mostly habits/superstitions which he finds hard to get rid off completely.But he can curb them and it dosent affect his game at all.Do you see him suddenly going down in a match or something?

Finding someone's behaviour 'OCD-like' dosent immediately account for OCD.Especially if its someone you dont know personally.
Even a minor form of OCD needs to be treated.Period.Its a psychological disorder and cannot go untreated.
Now answer this-Do you know how Nadal behaves off court?Are these rituals seen off court? If not how can you classify his behaviour as OCD just based on what you see on court?
Again,a player's ritual does NOT qualify for OCD.Some players do need to follow certain patterns of rituals to get 'in the zone' during a match.That way they focus better.
Unless you elaborate on specific patterns that you think he follows on and off court there's no point saying he has OCD.For eg- doing things like switching the lights on and off repeatedly.Even minor form of OCD HAS to be visible off court.
Now go read the thread again.
And if you still want to disagree and keep insisting that he has 'mild OCD' just by seeing him on court then I have nothing more to say.
edit-You are a Nadal fanatic by your own admission on a previous page.And I have no interest in folks like you coming up with half-baked knowledge and telling me 'mild OCD' needs no attention.

Folks like me huh?

I did NOT claim to be a Nadal fanatic. You are not being honest.

Yes, as a matter of fact many people have OCD, and their behaviors are NOT severe enough to require "attention". Again, you are clueless and dishonest.

You call his behaviors habits/superstitions. Well, step counting, excessive hand washing etc can be a habit as well. And I have been clear on what I have said. You have tried to twist what I have said. You are a piece of work!

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by Puma

Folks like me huh?

I did NOT claim to be a Nadal fanatic. You are not being honest.

Yes, as a matter of fact many people have OCD, and their behaviors are NOT severe enough to require "attention". Again, you are clueless and dishonest.

You call his behaviors habits/superstitions. Well, step counting, excessive hand washing etc can be a habit as well. And I have been clear on what I have said. You have tried to twist what I have said. You are a piece of work!

Didnt you say you were a big fan of his just a couple of pages back?
And the fact that you need to call me clueless/piece of work inspite of providing no sensible argument yourself nor answering my question is good enough to tell me you're a fanatic of the highest order.
I call Nadal's ON-COURT behaviour as habits/superstitions.If the behaviour is translated off-court then there 'could' be some truth to the theory otherwise NO.
And any form of OCD needs attention.Period.Otherwise it is not OCD in the first place.It has to be formally diagnosed and treated for it be called OCD.
Anyway,I'm done with this back and forth since it looks like you've already made up your mind and wont listen to anyone .Even those who have had it and have stated that they dont believe Nadal has it.