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Old 01-30-2010, 12:51 PM   #21
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Before having them on the tour, let them test out against Serena first.
They both would kill Serena,are you kidding me?
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:38 PM   #22
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Clijsters came back from retirement and motherhood and won the US Open.

Now, Henin has come back after two years and lost the Australian Open final in 3 sets to Serena.

Some people have said that this is indicative of the WTA tour's lack of depth. Of course, some have said that it is because both are quality players who retired prematurely to begin with.

But couldn't the same thing happen in the men's tour if Sampras or Agassi were to make a comeback, the depth of the tour notwithstanding?

Anyhow, this is just a hypothetical as both men as almost surely not going to make a come back.
No, I doubt they would even have a chance of making a Slam final at this stage, and certainly not after only one tournament back. That said, this isn't an entirely fair comparison, since they're far older and have been retired far longer than Clijsters and Henin were.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:21 PM   #23
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POINTLESS! the op posted a absurd question about the chances of a return of a man who retired at 36 years old, almost 4 years ago...
And TMF answered and then you started running insults at him for no reason..
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:55 PM   #24
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Wat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:17 PM   #25
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Clijsters came back from retirement and motherhood and won the US Open.

Now, Henin has come back after two years and lost the Australian Open final in 3 sets to Serena.

Some people have said that this is indicative of the WTA tour's lack of depth. Of course, some have said that it is because both are quality players who retired prematurely to begin with.

But couldn't the same thing happen in the men's tour if Sampras or Agassi were to make a comeback, the depth of the tour notwithstanding?

Anyhow, this is just a hypothetical as both men as almost surely not going to make a come back.
i think that if they make it to the fourth round without dying, they should be lucky.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:11 PM   #27
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Agassi can't even take out Todd Martin these days.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:07 PM   #28
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Not feeling it to be likely. Sampras at wimbledon or the US could maybe push through to the third or fourth round..Agassi maybe as well. But I will take most of the top 20 over them atm.
i would take most of the top 200 over them at this point. even sampras would not be able to win a round at wimbledon. They physically can't compete now that they are almost 40.

In their respective primes vs the players of today is a different story however imo
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They both would kill Serena,are you kidding me?
true that. they still are better than the WTA
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:17 PM   #30
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I dont think so. wayyy past it! theyde ruin WTA though...
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:20 PM   #31
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Sampras can hang with anyone for a set or two but 3 out of 5 for 7 matches? No way. Tennis is a young man's game. The ATP is not like the WTA chkefest!
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:21 PM   #32
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No. But Sampras depending on the draw might make the final 8 at wimby.
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decades who u reckon would win between Sampras and Roddick if they played tomorrow?
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With his serve still unmatched on the tour, I bet Sampras could make the quarters or semis at wimbledon if he were to train for six months or so and do 2 or 3 tournaments to warm up. Why not, when titans like little davydenko are the only threat to federer before the finals (with nadal and del potro ailing). Of course, at his age who knows if his back would go out or some other injury might happen... Anyway, clearly he has no interest. He even seems to be phasing out the senior tour.
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Of course not. I'd give Sampras more chance than Agassi b/c of the serve, for what it's worth, but no neither is making a GS final this day and age.
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If they were 10 years younger they'd have a good chance. Pete at Wimby and USO, and Andre at the AO. Not guaranteed because of Fed, and the slowing down of the surfaces. No chance at the French
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:24 PM   #37
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If you want to know how far Sampras could go, watch Karlovic.

Agassi, on the other hand, has no chances - his style requires too much running for his age.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:28 PM   #38
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sampras nor agassi is winning a round these days.

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Old 02-02-2010, 09:39 AM   #39
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With Agassi's bad back, it would be hard to fathom for him.

I do think Pete retired early, and still has a lot of "game" left in him..

If he trained his *** off, getting into great shape, I could see him competing on regular tour events, best of 3 sets.

But, GS would be a struggle....best of 5 over 2 weeks is a long haul, particularly on the harder surfaces. When the golden oldies did it (Rosewall, Laver, etc.), you had events on clay or grass, not HC. Much easier on the body.

He might give a few of the weaker guys a scare or two, but I don't think Fed or Nadal would be worried [unless they were having an off day, I suppose].

Connors was competitive in his late 30s, but was no longer making GS finals...just quarters and semis...and the hard courts obviously caught up to him eventually (hip replacement). But he did win a few regular tour events when he was close to 40, and I'm sure Rosewall did as well, so it is not impossible, just difficult, and these are guys who stayed in the game (did not retire, then return).

The game, as it is today, is just very hard on the knees, joints, etc., etc.
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:12 PM   #40
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Clijsters and Henin are still in their 20s and on average about 2 years younger than the Sisters who themselves are not yet "too old" (well maybe Venus the oldest of the 4 is sort of there though).
Agassi is turning 40 this year, Sampras 39.

It really is a silly comparision. Agassi in 2005 obviously did make a slam final at 35 though he got some major breaks with the draw and some upsets avoiding all of Federer, Hewitt, Roddick, Nadal, Nalbandian, Safin, or anyone of much note really (Blake was his top opponent and he should have lost to him) until the final. In 2006 he clearly was not even close to capable of making a slam final anymore with any draw, and his body was breaking down bigtime. His final slam he went out to Benjamin Becker. So would he be able to make a slam final now? Hell no.

As for Sampras he in general didnt age as well as Agassi did. In 2001 and 2002 Agassi overall was doing much better than Sampras, despite that they had the same # of slam wins and finals those two years with Sampras's unlikely U.S Open heroics both times. His 2002 U.S Open title was his only tournament win those whole 2 years combined. I shudder to think how he would have been doing even 3 or 4 years after that point, let alone now 7 and a half years later. 7 and a half years ago he lost to George Bastl at Wimbledon, you know his turf where he is arguably the greatest ever on. Still since he has the serve and didnt have a crumbling back maybe a smidge more hope than Agassi but still nearly nothing.

Neither would even try and come back. It would be pointless. WTA comebacks make more sense anyway since the WTA right now sucks, and the ones who came back were not that old or gone that long anyway.
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