Best stringing machine under $1500 for home stringer :)

[drakulie]

Originally Posted by mdqm

hey clubhouno
see the tyger stringing machines, in europe some models are similar to silent partner here(usa)good machines.

I agree.

These are extremely good machines, and I believe at one point the machine of choice at either one of the slams (AO), or some of the bigger tourney events in europe.

[big bang]

Hey club, try talking to the guys at transocean sport, the got pretty good machines and its close to your home. they have Tyger along with other brands at ok prices.
you can also get one of the electronic pro´s pro machines in DK for around 4500 kr, and you can get it even cheaper if you order it from germany or holland.
I can give you a few links if you like.

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by barry

I would go with the Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086. The portability of the Wise is amazing, it fits almost all machines, and you would have backup should the tensioner ever fail. Integrated Electronic machines are nice, but often you have to ship the entire unit in for repair or do some major surgery to get the failing component out. I am sold on the modularity you get with the Wise.

Also the new Gamma 6900 looks pretty good for a rotational gripper machine.

Thanks for advice

How much would a Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086 costs me total in us$ ?

What exactly is so great about the Wise 2086 ?

Will I be able to sustain a high level of precision in tension levels, when I use the Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086 compared to an electronic machine ?

Thanks in advance !

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by big bang

Hey club, try talking to the guys at transocean sport, the got pretty good machines and its close to your home. they have Tyger along with other brands at ok prices.
you can also get one of the electronic pro´s pro machines in DK for around 4500 kr, and you can get it even cheaper if you order it from germany or holland.
I can give you a few links if you like.

Hey Big Bang

Thanks for advice.....

Now I'm in doubt - should I go for the the Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086, a Tyger machine from Transocean Sport or maybe a full electronic ?

What would you recommend - the experienced guys do have a point. If the electronic machine stops working, I may have to send the whole thing back, while I can just send in parts, if I use a 'non electronic' machine.

Will only string 10-15 racquets a month on it, but need it to be reliable, precise and easy to use...

Thanks to all for your help and good info !!

Please keep the answers coming !

[big bang]

if you are not gonna string more than that, then I would buy either a good crank (ex.Tyger) or if you really wanna go for an electronic the pro´s pro.

the crank will last allmost forever if you choose a brand you can get spare parts for, i got a Tyger and if something breaks I just go to transocean and get it right away, big advantage!!
the Babolat I used to work on in a shop once broke and we have to ship it to france, it was sooooo expensive something like 10000 kr.. thats why my advice is...if you really want an electronic then go for something cheap like pro´s pro, you get your 2 years guaranti and if it breaks after that period then buy a new! but seriously I would buy a crank.
you can buy a good one at transocean for around 6000 kr (Tyger), but I heard good things about the pro´s pro cranks too, I just dont know if its as easy to get spare parts to as the Tyger is..

[barry]

Originally Posted by ClubHoUno

Thanks for advice

How much would a Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086 costs me total in us$ ?

What exactly is so great about the Wise 2086 ?

Will I be able to sustain a high level of precision in tension levels, when I use the Prince Neos 1500 with a Wise 2086 compared to an electronic machine ?

Thanks in advance !

The Wise 2086 is constant pull and I have had and used one for 3 years. Click on Video for a clip on how it works. It is constant pull, and I give it an A+ for stringing. Very accurate

http://www.**********.com/

tennis head . com (just remove the spaces)

Also the Prince Neos 1500 is $1299
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Prin...CE-NEOS15.html

And the Wise 2086 is $495

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wise...SE-WISETH.html

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by big bang

if you are not gonna string more than that, then I would buy either a good crank (ex.Tyger) or if you really wanna go for an electronic the pro´s pro.

the crank will last allmost forever if you choose a brand you can get spare parts for, i got a Tyger and if something breaks I just go to transocean and get it right away, big advantage!!
the Babolat I used to work on in a shop once broke and we have to ship it to france, it was sooooo expensive something like 10000 kr.. thats why my advice is...if you really want an electronic then go for something cheap like pro´s pro, you get your 2 years guaranti and if it breaks after that period then buy a new! but seriously I would buy a crank.
you can buy a good one at transocean for around 6000 kr (Tyger), but I heard good things about the pro´s pro cranks too, I just dont know if its as easy to get spare parts to as the Tyger is..

2 of my playing buddies are willing to invest 1.000 kroner each, and I get 12.000 kroner back in 'overskydende skat'/taxes, so I think I'm going to buy the electronic machine called Tyger StringUltra 630 from Transocean Sport. They offer free training in using the animal

Anyone know anything about this machine called Tyger StringUltra 630 - is it any good ?

I can get it for 10.000 kroner = circa $1.750 incl. VAT and taxes.

Would it be crazy to get that one - I intend to use for the next 10+ years.

I spend $400 = 2000 kr yearly on having my racquets strung, so in 5 years time, the machine has payed for itself.....
I spend 1-2 hours a month on bringing racquets to and from my stringer anyways.....
I expect to be able to string a racquet in 30 minutes time, once I get some experience of course.

Am I crazy

[big bang]

Originally Posted by ClubHoUno

2 of my playing buddies are willing to invest 1.000 kroner each, and I get 12.000 kroner back in 'overskydende skat'/taxes, so I think I'm going to buy the electronic machine called Tyger StringUltra 630 from Transocean Sport. They offer free training in using the animal

Anyone know anything about this machine called Tyger StringUltra 630 - is it any good ?

I can get it for 10.000 kroner = circa $1.750 incl. VAT and taxes.

Would it be crazy to get that one - I intend to use for the next 10+ years.

I spend $400 = 2000 kr yearly on having my racquets strung, so in 5 years time, the machine has payed for itself.....
I spend 1-2 hours a month on bringing racquets to and from my stringer anyways.....
I expect to be able to string a racquet in 30 minutes time, once I get some experience of course.

Am I crazy

no I wouldnt say you are crazybut I would buy something cheaper and more easy to fix if it breaks down 4-5000 for a good crank.. I saw one the other day on dba, 10 months old barely used-2200 kr!

stringultra 630 looks like a good machine, but expensive too..

[sidzej]

ClubHoUno, my 0.02c: If I was you, I would buy an automatic dropweight from Stringway, with 10 years warranty, very well built, excellent customer service from NL, easy to use, no need for calibrations, very consistent results can be achieved. You don't even need ML200, as you will be fine with ML100.

I really think, that for your intended use, you plan to invest way too much money. I was in a similar situation a year ago, money was not really an issue, but I decided to buy Stringway and used the extra cash for buying strings

[Mansewerz]

Originally Posted by pstar

Hey Mansewerz thats very impressing .
I usually need 45 mins on my ML100.

Thank you, but I was actually trying to string fast there. My normal, relaxed string time is slower than that

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by big bang

no I wouldnt say you are crazybut I would buy something cheaper and more easy to fix if it breaks down 4-5000 for a good crank.. I saw one the other day on dba, 10 months old barely used-2200 kr!

stringultra 630 looks like a good machine, but expensive too..

So if I got the Tyger Ultra 630 I would have the same problem if something breaks down - the whole unit has to sent in for repair, while with a crank, I can send one part in and have it repaired right ?

Originally Posted by sidzej

ClubHoUno, my 0.02c: If I was you, I would buy an automatic dropweight from Stringway, with 10 years warranty, very well built, excellent customer service from NL, easy to use, no need for calibrations, very consistent results can be achieved. You don't even need ML200, as you will be fine with ML100.

I really think, that for your intended use, you plan to invest way too much money. I was in a similar situation a year ago, money was not really an issue, but I decided to buy Stringway and used the extra cash for buying strings

Do you know of a dealer in Scandinavia or Europe, where I can buy Stringway machines at ?

What about the Prince Nexos 1500 ?

I'm confused sorry

[jim e]

Originally Posted by barry

Integrated Electronic machines are nice, but often you have to ship the entire unit in for repair or do some major surgery to get the failing component out.

Not always the case, as many electronics all is needed is to remove the tension head with the electronics, as that is usually just bolted to the table.It is called a PC Box Tension Head System, so updates can easily be done if needed as well. At least it was that way with my Pro Master machine, and I'm sure it is that way with many others as well.So you don't need to ship the whole machine back if problems arise.I know of someone who had a problem as such,( bad LCD screen), and the distributor sent him the part needed and instructions to replace the screen as well, and there was no issues, so not always is there all this shipping back.

[Icedorb217]

Neos 1500 with a Wise unit should do you justice as its reliable and has everything you just about need

[raging]

Club, you are getting heaps of good advice.
I have been looking for a used Star 4, new Star 5 for a while and one consideration is major service problems- if these guys at TransOcean will back you up(you mentioned training), have been in business a while with Tyger then it is probably a good one to go for. if they are close to you ...even better.
You are not crazy! ...we all are...about tennis.

[jazzyfunkybluesy]

Originally Posted by Icedorb217

Neos 1500 with a Wise unit should do you justice as its reliable and has everything you just about need

Except for a 6 point base.

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by Icedorb217

Neos 1500 with a Wise unit should do you justice as its reliable and has everything you just about need

Originally Posted by raging

Club, you are getting heaps of good advice.
I have been looking for a used Star 4, new Star 5 for a while and one consideration is major service problems- if these guys at TransOcean will back you up(you mentioned training), have been in business a while with Tyger then it is probably a good one to go for. if they are close to you ...even better.
You are not crazy! ...we all are...about tennis.

Okidoki - but the Prince Neos 1500 + the Wise will be circa $1800, which with VAT, taxes and shipping probably will be more than what the Electronic Tyger StringUltra 630 will cost me........ and I can buy the Tyger StringUltra 630 in a shop 10 km/6 miles from where I live.

They (TransOcean Sport) offer free training in using the stringer as part of the deal and will also offer service and support in the future to come.

Will also check another dealer, which sell an electronic Stringman for circa the same price. The tennis store which sells the Stringman is even closer to where I live - 5 minutes walk, I can almost see the shop from where I live

Decisions....decisions.....decisions......

Originally Posted by jazzyfunkybluesy

Except for a 6 point base.

What's a 6 point base

[parasailing]

I think he is referring to a 6 point mount where the racquet is held by six points of contact. I think only the Neos still has a two point mounting for a high end crank whereas the others go with 6 point mount.

[verbouge]

Say, Club Ho, are you way past considering a Stringway ML100 T92 or MS 200 T92? Seriously, great machines. I'm taking a break from my ML100 T92 for a moment here, and love this thing more with every racket strung.

The mounting system is unique; at least I believe it is. The tensioning of my machine is about as accurate as exists. The T92 clamps are exquisite. If you're not going for volume (are you?), but rather for quality, you may give Fred at Stringway a call. I don't think you're going to do better than this brand.

I have nothing to gain from this but to share a passion for excellence.

Dave

[ClubHoUno]

Originally Posted by verbouge

Say, Club Ho, are you way past considering a Stringway ML100 T92 or MS 200 T92? Seriously, great machines. I'm taking a break from my ML100 T92 for a moment here, and love this thing more with every racket strung.

The mounting system is unique; at least I believe it is. The tensioning of my machine is about as accurate as exists. The T92 clamps are exquisite. If you're not going for volume (are you?), but rather for quality, you may give Fred at Stringway a call. I don't think you're going to do better than this brand.

I have nothing to gain from this but to share a passion for excellence.

Dave

I think I will go for an electronic for added precision of tension and higher quality of clamps (don't know if this is bull, but was told that the more expensive electronic machines will be softer and more gentle on the paintjob of the frames, than the cheaper non-electronic machines)

Still don't know how and where I will place a 100 pound stringing monster and move it in and out of the closet a couple of times a month, when I need to string a couple of racquets

I will most likely go with Tyger String Ultra 630 electronic or an electronic from Stringway. The Prince Nexos 1500 + a Wise 2086 will be the same price as the Tyger StringUltra 630 Electronic, so the Nexos is out.

So I'm split between an electronic from Stringway or the Tyger StringUltra 630 Electronic.

Don't know which one it will be yet

[verbouge]

Originally Posted by ClubHoUno

So I'm split between an electronic from Stringway or the Tyger StringUltra 630 Electronic.
Don't know which one it will be yet

OK, then, my two cents.

The mounting system on the less expensive and the more expensive Stringway machines is EXACTLY the same. In other words, it's not a matter of price once you choose this company. The quality is without question. The next thing, the tensioning, is unique. If you go for the ML100 or the MS 200--there's nothing quite like it. One is done with gravity, one is done with a spring and a pedal. I have the gravity version, the ML100, and I can take the strings off a racket, mount it, and finish the complete string job unmounted from the platform in 31 minutes without being hurried. And I know my string bed is as accurately strung as any in the world. No exaggeration. I'm relatively new to this, too. The machine makes it easy.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the "you get what you pay for" argument is true in just about every case. But this one, this particular case, is worth a second look. The mounting system is the same from the least expensive to the most expensive machines. I can testify that it is rock solid and very easy to use, once you figure it out. The only questions after that are tensioning and customer service. You know where I stand on those two things.

I have no opinion on the Stringway electronics. My guess is that they are excellent, but you'll have to inquire of others who own those machines as to their qualities. But I will tell you that Fred Timmer himself has intimated that there is no more accurate system than that on the ML100. I tend to believe him. The thing is, what can be more accurate than gravity? The spring is great, but still, you have to calibrate it every twenty string jobs or so. And electronics, however sophisticated, cannot replicate tension as accurately as simple gravity. The "automatic drop weight" concept makes this soooooooo convenient and easy. OK, enough soap box and passion.

By the way, Club Ho, I've read many of your posts in "Strings and Stringing" and appreciate your thoughtfulness and attention to detail. It's apparent that you're looking for something of quality and longevity. Whatever you choose will most likely be an excellent machine.

I wish you luck.

Dave in Oregon, USA