I Have Elbows Made Of Steel

[ttwarrior1]

thought i would bump this because i trained 2 people last week that was supposed to go in for knee surgery. I asked them to come to the gym with me for 2 workouts and then see if you need surgery . They no longer will be having surgery on their knees.

[ttwarrior1]

bump, lol./........

[r2473]

I'd try it, but fortunately, I never get injured

[ttwarrior1]

i dont get injured hardly ever either now that i do superslow weight training and i even lift the weights slower before and days after a hard tennis match. Larry scott is right and i dont care what anyone else has to say about it

[scotus]

Why do you keep resurrecting this thread? Are you that attention-starved? It is time to let it go.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by scotus

Why do you keep resurrecting this thread? Are you that attention-starved? It is time to let it go.

Bump... oops

[ttwarrior1]

i keep resurrecting it because i see posts where people need help with their elbows and all the info i have in here is 100 percent correct

[npadreman]

Originally Posted by ttwarrior1

i keep resurrecting it because i see posts where people need help with their elbows and all the info i have in here is 100 percent correct

thanks... i'm giving it a try starting today

[npadreman]

day 3 and already feeling better... amazing, i thought i was gonna have to quit tennis...

[Bud]

Originally Posted by ttwarrior1

thought i would bump this because i trained 2 people last week that was supposed to go in for knee surgery. I asked them to come to the gym with me for 2 workouts and then see if you need surgery . They no longer will be having surgery on their knees.

You should apply for the job of Nadal's personal trainer

[Bud]

Originally Posted by SC in MA

What's a tricep pushdown? And what kind of equipment do you need to do them? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

Nothing unusual:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BPushdown.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...downHeavy.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...mPushdown.html

Is it a good idea when performing these triceps pushdowns to go less than 90 degrees (between upper arm and forearm) on the negative (up) motion?

I always try and keep all my joints (and associated appendages) at 90 degrees (or greater) when working out with weight.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by ttwarrior1

i keep resurrecting it because i see posts where people need help with their elbows and all the info i have in here is 100 percent correct

I would reiterate what I said earlier in this thread (over a year ago?)-that your "advice", besides being irresponsible, is absurd.

[tricky]

Yeah, this technique actually works (though more as a preventive measure.)

The superslow-style tricep pressdowns causes the muscles in that area to release lactic acid. The lactic acid in turn stimulates some collagen synthesis around the area, thereby improving strength of the ligaments and tendons.

In general, if you're on a PL or true strength protocol like 5x5, you want to throw in a low weight, high rep burn set after your main work sets. This will improve tendon strength as you progressively load.

In regards to tennis, it helps to frequently (i.e. 3x-a-week) do various pushdown and rotator cuff movements with an eye on feeling the burn. This will help you avoid problems later on in those areas.

[Bud]

Originally Posted by tricky

Yeah, this technique actually works (though more as a preventive measure.)

The superslow-style tricep pressdowns causes the muscles in that area to release lactic acid. The lactic acid in turn stimulates some collagen synthesis around the area, thereby improving strength of the ligaments and tendons.

In general, if you're on a PL or true strength protocol like 5x5, you want to throw in a low weight, high rep burn set after your main work sets. This will improve tendon strength as you progressively load.

In regards to tennis, it helps to frequently (i.e. 3x-a-week) do various pushdown and rotator cuff movements with an eye on feeling the burn. This will help you avoid problems later on in those areas.

I'll give it a try

[ttwarrior1]

not sure if i mentioned it, but i would always ice and heat it before and after i would lift weights and i would sometimes use a different grip . Key is gorging the area with fresh blood without going really into your recovery ability. Your not doing this to build muscle really but to rehab the elbow.
This also works for the knees with the leg extension

[plasma]

thats awesome man, it sounds like you're using wieghts therapeutically

[akthe47]

I'll give this a try. I'm getting some initial signs of TE after switch to the Babolat PDR GT+. It was probably more that there was a newer tennis player we brought out in the group that was hitting like it was batting practice and I would actually hit outbound balls back to the other side. Bad idea.

[akthe47]

So far it's working. I'm only 2 days in, but my elbow is already getting a lot better.

I didn't use ice, though, as that does seem counterproductive towards achieving more blood flow (as others pointed out).

Good stuff.

[plasma]

scottus makes a great point, elbows of steel are genetic, or come from working with your hands all your life. The title should truly onyl go to those who can wield an APD and tee off with no soreness. I prefer theraband exercises for joint therapy and injury prevention. I like the nature of the resistance the theraband provides and how that directly relates to the resilient physiology needed in tennis.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by r2473

I'd try it, but fortunately, I never get injured

The Karma bus ran over me for this.

I developed golfers elbow (pain on the inside of my elbow) from lifting too heavy on tricep exercises (specifically, close-grip bench presses and dumbbell tricep extensions). Generally speaking, you have to watch going too heavy on triceps because your elbows can't take it. I got a little "cocky" and paid the price.

I basically did what the OP suggested and the pain is 95% gone. I will continue until it is gone and into the future as a preventive measure as many have suggested.

The only change I made is, instead of doing tricep pushdowns in the gym, I simulated that by pressing against my off hand (or the wall or a desk) and letting that provide the resistance. The advantages I found to this were:

1) I could do it anywhere at anytime

2) I could vary the resistance at different points in the movement based on pain feedback

3) I could do the movement up / down and side / side, hitting the elbow from all angles.

Anyway, I just wanted to thank the OP for posting and continuing to bump this over the years. If I had paid a physio hundreds of dollars for this treatment and got these results, I would have considered it money well spent.