• Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Blog
  • Blogs
  • FAQ

Go Back   Talk Tennis > Tennis Equipment > Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines
Reload this Page GSS vs. Gamma Starting Clamp
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-22-2011, 10:26 AM   #1
Donny0627
Professional
 
Donny0627's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 862
Thumbs up GSS vs. Gamma Starting Clamp

Just opened my mailbox and found that my GSS starting clamp came in. I have had the Gamma clamp for around 6 months, and have been unimpressed by its quality and holding strength. My first impressions were that the GSS is much harder to open, despite it having one less spring. Also, there is no inserted diamond-coated punchout in the GSS one, the clamp face itself is textured.

The shipping was fast and cheap. I thought it was funny when the owner called me personally to thank me for my order, but I didnt mind. All in all I would definitely suggest the GSS clamp over the Gamma so far, and will try to finish the review the next time I string a racket.
__________________
3x BLX2 6.1 95 16x18, 3x BLX 6.1 95 16x18 all w/ Pro Hurricane 17 @ 54 lbs. Gamma Progression 602 Stringing Machine.
Donny0627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Donny0627
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Donny0627
Old 07-22-2011, 11:20 AM   #2
Irvin
Legend
 
Irvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Marietta, Ga
Posts: 6,971
Default

I have a Gamma starting clamp and one of the old Babolat starting clamps that is supposed to be so great. I will admit my Babolat is much harder to open and it has two spring where the Gamma has three. BUT, the Gamma has never slipped for me. How good is good enough. I will say this though I NEVER pull tension against a clamp with no tension on the other side of the clamp no matter what type clamp I am using.

Irvin
__________________
Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'
Irvin is offline   Reply With Quote
Irvin
View Public Profile
Visit Irvin's homepage!
Find More Posts by Irvin
Old 07-22-2011, 11:26 AM   #3
kchau
Semi-Pro
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 792
Default

I've never had issues with my gamma clamp. even at tensions up to 65lb
kchau is offline   Reply With Quote
kchau
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by kchau
Old 07-22-2011, 11:27 AM   #4
GlenK
Semi-Pro
 
GlenK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: St. Augustine, FL
Posts: 594
Default

I have a Gamma and one from GSS too. Both have been excellent!!
__________________
Head YouTek Prestige MP (18x20) - Wilson Nat Gut 17/MSV Co-Focus 1.18
(55/54) - Gamma X-Els
GlenK is offline   Reply With Quote
GlenK
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by GlenK
Old 07-22-2011, 12:34 PM   #5
Donny0627
Professional
 
Donny0627's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 862
Default

the gamma tends to collect residue from the string, and does not come clean even after a thorough scrubbing with alchohol... at least for me. It has slipped several times for me, often costing me a stringjob.
__________________
3x BLX2 6.1 95 16x18, 3x BLX 6.1 95 16x18 all w/ Pro Hurricane 17 @ 54 lbs. Gamma Progression 602 Stringing Machine.
Donny0627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Donny0627
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Donny0627
Old 07-22-2011, 12:34 PM   #6
diredesire
Super Moderator
 
diredesire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,932
Send a message via AIM to diredesire
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvin View Post
I have a Gamma starting clamp and one of the old Babolat starting clamps that is supposed to be so great. I will admit my Babolat is much harder to open and it has two spring where the Gamma has three. BUT, the Gamma has never slipped for me. How good is good enough. I will say this though I NEVER pull tension against a clamp with no tension on the other side of the clamp no matter what type clamp I am using.

Irvin
Maybe the Gamma has improved, but I have a similar experience to OP. I've also had the chance to work with a Gamma Starter in the past year, and it was similar. The Gamma's diamond dusted coating is too smooth, and the plates have a potential for not being aligned correctly/they will eventually fall out.

I'm not positive on your mains starting method, but I use my starter as a backup to the initial pull.
__________________
2x Babolat Pure Storm Tour +s // Gamma 5800 ELS (2pt)
Help me on my quest to clean-up the boards, report abusive posts!
diredesire is offline   Reply With Quote
diredesire
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by diredesire
Old 07-22-2011, 12:44 PM   #7
mad dog1
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,051
Default

my experience w/ gamma starting clamp is similar to OP and DD. i use my clamp as a bridge and it wouldn't hold. i have used the eagnas and babolat as a bridge the same way and they both held no prob altho the babolat did slip once but it was dirty. once i cleaned it, it was good to go again. i also use my starting clamp to tighten knots. i grab the clamp head when i pull and have had the gamma starter release on me. the eagnas has not released on me ever.
mad dog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
mad dog1
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by mad dog1
Old 07-22-2011, 06:27 PM   #8
jim e
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,859
Default

I have an alpha, a gamma, and the gss clamp, and I prefer the gss clamp the most. The alpha clamp is larger plate size, and like you said the gss clamp has stiffer springs, so it holds remarkably well.I keep the alpha with a string in place all the time for its use as a bridge when needed, and the gss clamp for all other uses. The gss is very well made.
Just a note, be sure and keep your starting clamp clean as well as your machines clamps, as after a period of time, I was just cleaning the machines clamps, and not the starting clamps and a set of VS gut slipped through the starter when starting crosses (I now use a different method of starting crosses) .It ended up because of dirty starting clamp, so do not ignore cleaning the starting clamp as well when you clean the machines clamps.

Last edited by jim e : 07-22-2011 at 07:03 PM.
jim e is offline   Reply With Quote
jim e
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jim e
Old 07-24-2011, 12:01 PM   #9
mchjhn
Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Chcago
Posts: 123
Default

try using a tooth brush dipped in rubbing alcohol to clean your starting clamp and string clamps. sometimes, if you use a clothe, the fibers will wear off inside the diamond coated surface, and make it the gripping worse. a tooth brush will get the "string slime" out of the diamond coating. works great for me.
mchjhn is offline   Reply With Quote
mchjhn
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by mchjhn
Old 07-24-2011, 12:26 PM   #10
jim e
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,859
Default

A white shoelace dipoped in alcohol works nice as well. You can pull the lace through easing up on the clamp, and that works real nice.
jim e is offline   Reply With Quote
jim e
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by jim e
Old 07-25-2011, 08:19 AM   #11
diredesire
Super Moderator
 
diredesire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,932
Send a message via AIM to diredesire
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jim e View Post
I have an alpha, a gamma, and the gss clamp, and I prefer the gss clamp the most. The alpha clamp is larger plate size, and like you said the gss clamp has stiffer springs, so it holds remarkably well.I keep the alpha with a string in place all the time for its use as a bridge when needed, and the gss clamp for all other uses. The gss is very well made.
Just a note, be sure and keep your starting clamp clean as well as your machines clamps, as after a period of time, I was just cleaning the machines clamps, and not the starting clamps and a set of VS gut slipped through the starter when starting crosses (I now use a different method of starting crosses) .It ended up because of dirty starting clamp, so do not ignore cleaning the starting clamp as well when you clean the machines clamps.
Just a historical note: The "Alpha" clamp that was sold on TW waaaay back was actually an Alpha/RAB clamp, which is the same as the current GSS clamp. The newer Alpha clamp that TW sold a little while back is the current, wider jawed starter with the alpha logo. I also like the GSS/RAB clamp the best. The Alpha is extremely aggressive with extreme holding power. It's a great clamp, but a little overkill and bulky. I'd trust it in excess of 90lbs, but it also can squish strings a little bit.
__________________
2x Babolat Pure Storm Tour +s // Gamma 5800 ELS (2pt)
Help me on my quest to clean-up the boards, report abusive posts!
diredesire is offline   Reply With Quote
diredesire
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by diredesire
Old 07-27-2011, 04:14 PM   #12
Donny0627
Professional
 
Donny0627's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 862
Default

just a follow up on my OP. Used the GSS clamp the other day, worked flawlessly. I actually had one of my flying clamps break on me, good thing I have 2 starting clamps... I was able ot do a couple stringjobs with just the one, but it isnt fun lol
__________________
3x BLX2 6.1 95 16x18, 3x BLX 6.1 95 16x18 all w/ Pro Hurricane 17 @ 54 lbs. Gamma Progression 602 Stringing Machine.
Donny0627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Donny0627
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Donny0627
Old 08-03-2011, 08:24 AM   #13
spillai
Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 101
Default

The GSS clamp is much better quality, but it is also pricier
__________________
Head Youtek Radical Pro
Gamma x-2 machine
spillai is offline   Reply With Quote
spillai
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by spillai
Old 08-03-2011, 04:05 PM   #14
Donny0627
Professional
 
Donny0627's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 862
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spillai View Post
The GSS clamp is much better quality, but it is also pricier
actually they're about the same price
__________________
3x BLX2 6.1 95 16x18, 3x BLX 6.1 95 16x18 all w/ Pro Hurricane 17 @ 54 lbs. Gamma Progression 602 Stringing Machine.
Donny0627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Donny0627
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Donny0627
Old 08-03-2011, 06:21 PM   #15
Peppershaker
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 154
Default

Had been thinking it would be nice to have two Starting Clamps. Had seen some slipping with my Gamma so based on this board decided to purchase the GSS model.

Came in the other day, used it a couple of times since.....Wow!
Peppershaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Peppershaker
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Peppershaker
Old 09-29-2012, 09:12 PM   #16
Roger Wawrinka
Semi-Pro
 
Roger Wawrinka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 518
Default

Just a quick question, what are your guys thoughts on the black babolat starting clamp (2 springs)?
Roger Wawrinka is offline   Reply With Quote
Roger Wawrinka
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Roger Wawrinka
Old 09-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #17
cluckcluck
Professional
 
cluckcluck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Between the baseline and netcord.
Posts: 1,479
Send a message via Skype™ to cluckcluck
Default

I've had an Eagnas starting clamp for over a year now and I've never had a problem. Easy to open and grips extremely well. Cheap too.
__________________
Donnay X-Dark Red 94
cluckcluck is offline   Reply With Quote
cluckcluck
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by cluckcluck
Old 09-30-2012, 02:06 AM   #18
Irvin
Legend
 
Irvin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Marietta, Ga
Posts: 6,971
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peppershaker View Post
Had been thinking it would be nice to have two Starting Clamps. Had seen some slipping with my Gamma so based on this board decided to purchase the GSS model.

Came in the other day, used it a couple of times since.....Wow!
I have two clamps and usually use both when I string, I've never used them back to back though. My Gamma has never slipped while stringing, but I have never pulled directly against it either except for when I made a video once.
__________________
Irvin - I wish Facebook would notify me when people delete me so I can 'Like it'
Irvin is offline   Reply With Quote
Irvin
View Public Profile
Visit Irvin's homepage!
Find More Posts by Irvin
Old 09-30-2012, 02:42 PM   #19
Peppershaker
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 154
Default

I do not pull directly against either clamp, but have experienced just about everything as posted on this board. Have had the Gamma slip when used as a bridge (oil/string residue), had one plate fall out, have seen that the pads gum up quickly and require cleaning more often than the GSS. I still use the Gamma, but now never as a bridge. I like it for use when tightening knots, but outside of that I'll reach for my GSS clamp.

Having had one pad fall out which I've since glued back, was glad that I had two clamps. Could probably have improvised, but have decided I'll purchase another GSS, have a feeling that one or the other pad will drop out at any time.

One other advantage to the GSS is that you can take it apart, something that I would have really liked while attempting to clean, and then re-glue the Gamma. Although just thought that I'd check this feature out on my GSS. Didn't have much luck but didn't attempt to pound too hard either.
Peppershaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Peppershaker
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Peppershaker
Old 09-30-2012, 04:02 PM   #20
sstchur
Professional
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sammamish, WA
Posts: 1,461
Default

Don't know if the Gamma clamp has changed since when DD used it, but I have 2 Gamma clamps and an Eagnas clamp. The Eagnas clamp is extremely tight, almost too tight for my taste. I used to prefer it over the Gamma b/c it was obviously stronger.

But as I used them more and more I now prefer the Gamma. It's not hard to open which makes it much faster and enjoyable to use for me. It has also never slipped and I use it to start my mains and my crosses all the time (as well as to tighten knots).

I've had no issues with it collecting residue. I clean it regularly and it works very very well.

The only thing that Gamma could do better is make that diamond coating infused into the clamp instead of on a thin piece of metal that is then glued to the clamp.

Other than that though, it's a very good clamp and it works very very well.
sstchur is offline   Reply With Quote
sstchur
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by sstchur
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Go Back   Talk Tennis > Tennis Equipment > Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines
Reload this Page GSS vs. Gamma Starting Clamp

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:33 PM.

Talk Tennis :: Powered By Tennis Warehouse - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2006 - Tennis Warehouse