partner making bad line calls

10scrazee · 06-20-2010, 10:48 PM

do you overrule your partner on line calls? What do you do when your partner asked you not to make a call on her side line? We were in a match and the opponent hit a ball that I saw was in and I told her it was a good shot. My partner came up to me and asked me not to make say that because she was going to call the ball out but has to agree with me since I already said good shot to the opponent.

Rorsach · 06-21-2010, 12:37 AM

If my partner has made it clear that she's willing to cheat to win, he/she is not my partner anymore.

MoDaisy · 06-21-2010, 12:41 AM

1st I am very cautious about not making calls where I should'nt - If I am at the net I do not call the baseline, if I am ad side I do not call the deuce sideline, etc..etc..etc.. -I just feel like my partner has a better view so I simply refuse to make a call on those lines. Considering that, if I am not in the better position to make the call then how can I override my partner?

Do you trust your partner? Do you think your partner is cheating?

If your partner constantly makes bad lines calls and you think there is some cheating I would get a new partner. If your partner just makes bad line calls often because of human error - Well, have a talk prior to your next match and ask what they think you should do when you disagree.

bcart1991 · 06-21-2010, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rorsach

If my partner has made it clear that she's willing to cheat to win, he/she is not my partner anymore.

This.

If I'm overruling my partner's call, it's because I saw it clearly. I see things quite clearly, as I have 20/15 vision.

jmverdugo · 06-21-2010, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MoDaisy

1st I am very cautious about not making calls where I should'nt - If I am at the net I do not call the baseline, if I am ad side I do not call the deuce sideline, etc..etc..etc.. -I just feel like my partner has a better view so I simply refuse to make a call on those lines. Considering that, if I am not in the better position to make the call then how can I override my partner?

Do you trust your partner? Do you think your partner is cheating?

If your partner constantly makes bad lines calls and you think there is some cheating I would get a new partner. If your partner just makes bad line calls often because of human error - Well, have a talk prior to your next match and ask what they think you should do when you disagree.

^^ Agree, to the OP, your partner did not say she was going to cheat, she said she was going to call the ball out, maybe she saw it out? Normally I do not call on wide shots that are not on my side and I think the best is to go with the first call made and if you do not agree with your partner talk with her in private. There is no need to stop the play and correct your partner, it will look like you are trying to hard to be honest and you partner will look like a cheater. JMO.

Gemini · 06-21-2010, 05:58 AM

I always allow my partner to make the call on the shot if he or she is playing it. I'll only overrule an out call if I can clearly see that my partner was not in the best position to make the right call AND the ball was clearly in.

PushyPushster · 06-21-2010, 06:29 AM

Someone on this board (can't remember who, sorry) gave some great advice on this topic. They said don't immediately overrule your partner - if you think the call was incorrect then take your teammate aside for a second, and tell him you saw it differently. Let *him* tell the other team you're switching the call. That little tip has worked very well in my experience.

thejuice · 06-21-2010, 07:15 AM

One major thing to consider is angles. I am a football and basketball official and I like to use the examples I learned when I was training to officiate in times like this. From someone's perspective standing in the ad service box, I could place a ball a centimeter off the far side line on the deuce side and the ball would look "in" to the net player. Your partner, in most cases, would be covering that deuce side and would therefore have a much better view of the side line that you would. That centimeter could potentially cost you a match because of what you thought you saw versus what actually was. 99% out is still in. Officials have blown many games because of them trying to overrule a partner when they were out of position. The credibility of the officials are gone and the integrity of the game and match are in jeopardy. The best thing to do is just swallow your whistle (an official's term), or in other words, just be quiet.

Cindysphinx · 06-21-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thejuice

From someone's perspective standing in the ad service box, I could place a ball a centimeter off the far side line on the deuce side and the ball would look "in" to the net player. Your partner, in most cases, would be covering that deuce side and would therefore have a much better view of the side line that you would. That centimeter could potentially cost you a match because of what you thought you saw versus what actually was. 99% out is still in.

Fair enough.

I think the more common problem in tennis (in your example) is when the net player calls the ball out, but the partner on the deuce side line is seeing it as in.

I have to say, I do not appreciate it when my partner at net tries to call the baseline or far side line. I'm there. I'm watching. I can see. Just let me call it.

Now, if you see me running full speed and stretched out and off balance, yes, go ahead and make a call if you see it clearly. Just make sure it was clearly, clearly out. And if you didn't get a good view of it, and I couldn't be sure either, it was good. I can live with that.

06-20-2010, 10:48 PM	#1
10scrazee New User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4	partner making bad line calls do you overrule your partner on line calls? What do you do when your partner asked you not to make a call on her side line? We were in a match and the opponent hit a ball that I saw was in and I told her it was a good shot. My partner came up to me and asked me not to make say that because she was going to call the ball out but has to agree with me since I already said good shot to the opponent.

06-21-2010, 05:58 AM	#6
Gemini Professional Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dunwoody, GA Posts: 1,215	I always allow my partner to make the call on the shot if he or she is playing it. I'll only overrule an out call if I can clearly see that my partner was not in the best position to make the right call AND the ball was clearly in. Last edited by Gemini : 06-21-2010 at 07:06 AM.

06-21-2010, 07:15 AM	#8
thejuice Professional Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,465	One major thing to consider is angles. I am a football and basketball official and I like to use the examples I learned when I was training to officiate in times like this. From someone's perspective standing in the ad service box, I could place a ball a centimeter off the far side line on the deuce side and the ball would look "in" to the net player. Your partner, in most cases, would be covering that deuce side and would therefore have a much better view of the side line that you would. That centimeter could potentially cost you a match because of what you thought you saw versus what actually was. 99% out is still in. Officials have blown many games because of them trying to overrule a partner when they were out of position. The credibility of the officials are gone and the integrity of the game and match are in jeopardy. The best thing to do is just swallow your whistle (an official's term), or in other words, just be quiet. __________________ Pure Storm Tour Ltd GT; Babolat Aero 12 pack bag; Barricade 6s, Ballistec 2.3s, and Vapor VIs

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