Federer "gamesmanship" and Nadal gamesmanship+cheating were not the same.

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by TheTruth

I know he said it. I just don't understand why they don't understand. That was horrible, but he can do that and get away with it, because the pundits aren't going to hold his feet over the coals about it. They're all buddies and agents and what not. They'll laugh it off, or ignore it, and IMO, the fans will blindly follow.

Everything he does and says they deem as right, correct, and better. It's pretty sad, actually, but hey to each his own.

.Awww...poor Rafito the big bad officials/journos et al are out to get him.
I wonder why they fined AND criticised Roger when he used profanity at the USO though-They're all buddies afterall

[CMM]

Originally Posted by mandy01

NO HE WASN'T. QUIT the lies.I SAW that match again..he was gone for less than two minutes and was already BACK when the umpire called time.

As for how long he was waiting for the sun to set and the air to cool-anybody with the slightest amount of common sense would know not to take that seriously at all unless they really think one minute here and there at the most was going to make any difference at all.

Funny how you do the disappearing act everytime someone counters your argument and go and spout out the same lies in other threads.

Nadal fans are REALLY, REALLY clutching at straws.

http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2010/01/2...to-being-no-1/

*LOL at Tsonga's answer

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by CMM

http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2010/01/2...to-being-no-1/

*LOL at Tsonga's answer

Greg Couch lost me when he said Roger broke rules.He didn't break any. He hasn't even quoted Roger correctly and Davy did not fall to pieces at all.He broke Roger and was about to break him the second time .LOAD of crap in other words.
Next.

[CMM]

Originally Posted by mandy01

Greg Couch lost me when he said Roger broke rules.He didn't break any.And he hasn't even quoted Roger correctly.
Next.

And Nadal didn't break any rule when he asked for a MTO.
Stop using double standards.

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by CMM

And Nadal didn't break any rule when he asked for a MTO.
Stop using double standards.

FYI I never said he did so I'm not sure why you're quoting me.

[Gen]

Fedturds are activated since

1) their idol lost No.1 place in the rankings and is sobbing bitterly about it

2) their idol hasn't won a single title since February, including minor events like Estoril and Halle where there was no competition

3) their idol is declining rapidly and is not considered a favourite for anything any more

4) their idol is called Whiffmeister even by the journalists, because he can't drive his racket into the ball properly



Poor turdies convert their frustration to hatred. No other emotions left, no?

[namelessone]

How do these trolls NOT get banned?

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by namelessone

How do these trolls NOT get banned?

It's blinkism's fault.Not sure how and don't care either.I just know it is.

[Rippy]

Originally Posted by Bud

He was gone way longer than 2 minutes. There is no specifically allotted time for bathroom breaks.

It would be nice to know exactly how long he was in there waiting for the sun to set and the air to cool down (his words).

Check the youtube vid of that portion of the match, in the series of vids of the whole match. He was gone for 2 minutes.

(Yes, the person making the video could have edited it, but they bothered to include the adverts. Also, he was gone in the vid for exactly 2 minutes, I doubt the person would have edited the video to be the perfect length of time for between sets.)

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by Rippy

Check the youtube vid of that portion of the match, in the series of vids of the whole match. He was gone for 2 minutes.

(Yes, the person making the video could have edited it, but they bothered to include the adverts. Also, he was gone in the vid for exactly 2 minutes, I doubt the person would have edited the video to be the perfect length of time for between sets.)

There..it's on youtube as well.

[fed_rulz]

Originally Posted by mandy01

NO HE WASN'T. QUIT the lies.I SAW that match again..he was gone for less than two minutes and was already BACK when the umpire called time.

As for how long he was waiting for the sun to set and the air to cool-anybody with the slightest amount of common sense would know not to take that seriously at all unless they really think one minute here and there at the most was going to make any difference at all.

Funny how you do the disappearing act everytime someone counters your argument and go and spout out the same lies in other threads.

Nadal fans are REALLY, REALLY clutching at straws.

It was already pointed out to him, but he chose to ignore it, and is just trolling now.

[cueboyzn]

Originally Posted by Gen

Fedturds are activated since

1) their idol lost No.1 place in the rankings and is sobbing bitterly about it

Rankings mean little compared to number of Slams won. I am sure he is bawling his eyes out.

2) their idol hasn't won a single title since February, including minor events like Estoril and Halle where there was no competition

When you have 16 Slams you don't really need to win non-slams, especially "minor events like Estoril and Halle"

3) their idol is declining rapidly and is not considered a favourite for anything any more

Except Wimbledon, Australian and US Open...

4) their idol is called Whiffmeister even by the journalists, because he can't drive his racket into the ball properly

Ever heard of a bad bounce? That's the French, not the US Open, idiot...

Poor turdies convert their frustration to hatred. No other emotions left, no?

Poor Fed-haters convert their frustration to hatred. Face Facts. 16 GS = GOAT.

[Rippy]

Originally Posted by Bud

He was gone way longer than 2 minutes. There is no specifically allotted time for bathroom breaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-9msTW4gE

Watch from 5.47 to 7.43. Way longer than 2 minutes?

[drakulie]

Nadal wasn't injured, and that's enough to show what he did was a cowardly move on his part.

[TheTruth]

Originally Posted by mandy01

Roger has in a FORMAL presser admitted that he dosen't take interviews with Courier seriously.But carry on believing what you want.

And what did he say anyway?What did I prove?
Anyone with a little bit of common sense will know that Roger wasn't expecting a slight shift in shadow that would occur in a span of less than two minutes to make ANY difference in the match at all.
And I saw that part of the match again.Roger wasn't even gone for two whole minutes.So can someone PLEASE explain to me where this gamesmanship occured?

And again please tell us-What admission of using gamesmanship are we talking about?
LOL The funny part is Roger is supposed to have admitted to using gamesmanship when he never actually used it in the first place

I no longer have the match. He said it. That's good enough for me. Whether he lied the first time (when he said it), or later when he denied it, people believe what they want to believe, right?

Why wouldn't he come back and say that after making such an omission on TV? Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a circular argument, because I believe he did exactly what he said, and no one's convincing me otherwise. And I'm not checking the weather for the sun's position on that day and time.

[TheTruth]

Originally Posted by mandy01

.Awww...poor Rafito the big bad officials/journos et al are out to get him.
I wonder why they fined AND criticised Roger when he used profanity at the USO though-They're all buddies afterall

No. You're supposed to get fined for using profanity. Others players get fined all the time. They can be buddies all they want, but some things they just can't let that go.

This situation has nothing to do with Rafa.

[TheTruth]

Originally Posted by CMM

http://tennis.fanhouse.com/2010/01/2...to-being-no-1/

*LOL at Tsonga's answer

Nice article.

[Rippy]

Originally Posted by TheTruth

I no longer have the match. He said it. That's good enough for me. Whether he lied the first time (when he said it), or later when he denied it, people believe what they want to believe, right?

Why wouldn't he come back and say that after making such an omission on TV? Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a circular argument, because I believe he did exactly what he said, and no one's convincing me otherwise. And I'm not checking the weather for the sun's position on that day and time.

The toilet break Fed took lasted 2 minutes, which is not over the time allowed between sets.

[TheTruth]

Originally Posted by Rippy

The toilet break Fed took lasted 2 minutes, which is not over the time allowed between sets.

It doesn't matter how long he took. He admitted to gamesmanship. That's the bottom line. Everything else to me sounds like excuses.

Then again, people look at things differently. I happen to agree with Couch.

[mandy01]

Originally Posted by TheTruth

It doesn't matter how long he took. He admitted to gamesmanship. That's the bottom line. Everything else to me sounds like excuses.

Then again, people look at things differently. I happen to agree with Couch.

He admitted to no such thing.Obviously you don't even remember correctly what he said and are determined to hang on to one toilet break
Whatever