Andy Roddick Frame :) - Page 2

BobFL · 08-16-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saigonbond

Rod's PDRGT (pj) fr jemsiter:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showt...hlight=roddick

Nice! So he uses thinner mains now and I do not see that little overlapping? Btw, both chambers have something injected. One of them has some black stuff that appears to be silicone and the other one has some semi-stiff foam...
And this is absolutely irrelevant - I like Cortex pj much more

BobFL · 08-18-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dincuss

Is it as stiff as a regular pure drive?

OK, I think I can answer your question now

Compared to the Extended Swirly that I used to have Andy's frame felt A LOT softer. Btw, I expected it to play much stiffer and it was surprisingly soft and comfy. I have also tried Cortex Roddick and compared to that racquet this one played like a wet noodle and it swung easier if this makes any sense

I don't think I am competent enough to review this beauty hence I am leaving that to my knowledgeable and eloquent friend dgoran

bfactor61 · 08-18-2010, 10:23 AM

nice pics....great post!

BobFL · 08-18-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bfactor61

nice pics....great post!

Thanks man!

Power Player · 08-18-2010, 12:41 PM

Poor Dgoran, he is going to be so bummed when he finds an almost unattainable racquet that sounds like a fusion of his Pro Tours and Pure Drives.

BobFL · 08-18-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Power Player

Poor Dgoran, he is going to be so bummed when he finds an almost unattainable racquet that sounds like a fusion of his Pro Tours and Pure Drives.

Hahahhahahahha this is a good one!!!!

dgoran · 08-18-2010, 04:51 PM

LOL it is quite attainable all I have to do is get in top 10 real quick...I am working on it...

All kidding aside it was little bit difficult to compare the sticks since it had very soft natural gut PHT string bed installed while mine had BBO minus silicone. The only thing that it would be softer is full gut job additionally it had silicone and you all know that changes EVERYTHING. Case in point, try stock LM Racial and try my silicone-d LM Radical and you have 2 different sticks...

It is my opinion still that this racket is a Pure Drive + (Swirly) which is stiffer than 2001 PD + team with silicone and lead and nat gut to add some comfort. Time to hunt down some PD Team + Swirly's and get to modding (PHT+Gut + Lead + Silicone) to have a true comparison.

That being said we both were quite scared to really give it a true whack since I was freaked out that I will drop the racket and damage it somehow, (like PowerPlayer did the other day lol) BUT the racket is true beauty and its a true testament that you don't need anything over 12 oz to return those HEAVY, HEAVY local park heroes serves like many here on TT will lead you to believe.

All in all this racket is an amazing find at any price point since its nearly impossible to get it on **** and similar sites (unlike h22 pt57 and rest of the clones...) in this paint job combo especially. Not to mention this rackets history which really kick started Babolat's popularity in US after seemingly unknown junior, 1 yr after switching to PD + , had a break through year.

To copy and paste and save some typing READ THIS:

The background of the Roddick's Babolat Pure Drive + is that Benhabiles’s player was an American junior almost no one had heard of, Andy Roddick. “I didn’t know much about him,” concedes Brownlee, who at the time was working for Prince. Back then, Roddick didn’t have a big reputation; in 1999, he lost in the first round of 2 of the junior grand slam tournaments. Volkl was the only other cooperation willing to give Roddick a racket, but he decided on Babolat because of his coach’s relationship with Appino.

A year later everything changed. Roddick won three out of the four boys’ majors and became the No. 1 junior in the world. Other juniors took notice, especially of his monster serve. Some actually phoned Babolat in France, to see if they too could get “Andy’s racket.” “If he had been out there with a broomstick,” says Rick Macci, who coached Roddick between ages 9 and 14, “I think people would have wanted to try a broomstick.”

Lastly its only fitting for BobFL, fellow TT-er who is know in our neck of the woods as "Cannon Serve Bob", to obtain a racket that set an official ATP serve speed record as if great serving sticks somehow gravitate towards those who can actually utilize their magic

-Goran

Borg Forever · 08-18-2010, 05:40 PM

Yeah, I really like Roddick too. He's got a great game. I love watching him.

Plus, he's a cool guy.

Ross K · 08-19-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BobFL

Compared to the Extended Swirly that I used to have Andy's frame felt A LOT softer. Btw, I expected it to play much stiffer and it was surprisingly soft and comfy. I have also tried Cortex Roddick and compared to that racquet this one played like a wet noodle and it swung easier if this makes any sense)

Er, sounds a bit like a PST GT +?!...

Nice thread.

R.

BTW... qsn... what stiffness RA are we talking exactly?

Ross K · 08-19-2010, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

Er, sounds a bit like a PST GT +?!...

Nice thread.

R.

BTW... qsn... what stiffness RA are we talking exactly?

And another qsn while we're at it... how much lead exactly is it on the hoop?

Thanks,

R.

BobFL · 08-19-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross K

And another qsn while we're at it... how much lead exactly is it on the hoop?

Thanks,

R.

Hi Ross,

I don't know about RA but I do know exactly how much lead was installed

Total length is 580mm. Sorry for using SI units. It is more accurate that way because the number is rounded...

Calc: (4 x 120mm) + (4 x 25mm) = 580mm; 4 x 25mm would be overlapping I mentioned in my original post...

PED · 08-19-2010, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgoran

All kidding aside it was little bit difficult to compare the sticks since it had very soft natural gut PHT string bed installed while mine had BBO minus silicone. The only thing that it would be softer is full gut job additionally it had silicone and you all know that changes EVERYTHING. Case in point, try stock LM Racial and try my silicone-d LM Radical and you have 2 different sticks...-Goran

Great work on both your parts. Just curious, so the silicone in the handle also alters the overall feel of the racquet? I'm using lead weights in the handle currently (14g) and that's working so far but was also considering adding the silicone. If it adds softness, that's not a bad thing in a Bab

Ross K · 08-19-2010, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobFL

Hi Ross,

I don't know about RA but I do know exactly how much lead was installed

Total length is 580mm. Sorry for using SI units. It is more accurate that way because the number is rounded...

Calc: (4 x 120mm) + (4 x 25mm) = 580mm; 4 x 25mm would be overlapping I mentioned in my original post...

Cheers Bob... and... sorry to be a bit of a doof here, but how much are we talking in grams?

TIA,

R.

PED · 08-19-2010, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross K

Cheers Bob... and... sorry to be a bit of a doof here, but how much are we talking in grams?

TIA,

R.

Ross, 580mm converts to 22.834 inches. It's quarter inch lead and is 1 gram per 4 inches. So, that works out to be 5.7g of lead

BobFL · 08-19-2010, 11:41 AM

Haha, no worries

Just move 2 decimal places to the left

That would be 5.8 grams. This is not 100% accurate but it is good enough imho.

Or you can do it like this for more accuracy:

580 x 0.03937 / 4 = 5.7 grams

YAVW

BobFL · 08-19-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PED

Ross, 580mm converts to 22.834 inches. It's quarter inch lead and is 1 gram per 4 inches. So, that works out to be 5.7g of lead

Thanks PED

I didn't see your post before I started to type

PED · 08-19-2010, 11:58 AM

No problem, I'm just excited to have a thread where someone actually hits with a pro stick

thanks for that.

BobFL · 08-19-2010, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PED

No problem, I'm just excited to have a thread where someone actually hits with a pro stick

thanks for that.

Of course, I mean what else would I do with it?

Cup8489 · 08-19-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobFL

Of course, I mean what else would I do with it?

what everyone else who has one seems to do, take pictures and hang it in a display and never actually touch it.

dgoran · 08-19-2010, 06:22 PM

Those are called ****** sorry i meant to say "collectors" BobFL is actually a player.

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dgoran Professional Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,148	LOL it is quite attainable all I have to do is get in top 10 real quick...I am working on it... All kidding aside it was little bit difficult to compare the sticks since it had very soft natural gut PHT string bed installed while mine had BBO minus silicone. The only thing that it would be softer is full gut job additionally it had silicone and you all know that changes EVERYTHING. Case in point, try stock LM Racial and try my silicone-d LM Radical and you have 2 different sticks... It is my opinion still that this racket is a Pure Drive + (Swirly) which is stiffer than 2001 PD + team with silicone and lead and nat gut to add some comfort. Time to hunt down some PD Team + Swirly's and get to modding (PHT+Gut + Lead + Silicone) to have a true comparison. That being said we both were quite scared to really give it a true whack since I was freaked out that I will drop the racket and damage it somehow, (like PowerPlayer did the other day lol) BUT the racket is true beauty and its a true testament that you don't need anything over 12 oz to return those HEAVY, HEAVY local park heroes serves like many here on TT will lead you to believe. All in all this racket is an amazing find at any price point since its nearly impossible to get it on **** and similar sites (unlike h22 pt57 and rest of the clones...) in this paint job combo especially. Not to mention this rackets history which really kick started Babolat's popularity in US after seemingly unknown junior, 1 yr after switching to PD + , had a break through year. To copy and paste and save some typing READ THIS: The background of the Roddick's Babolat Pure Drive + is that Benhabiles’s player was an American junior almost no one had heard of, Andy Roddick. “I didn’t know much about him,” concedes Brownlee, who at the time was working for Prince. Back then, Roddick didn’t have a big reputation; in 1999, he lost in the first round of 2 of the junior grand slam tournaments. Volkl was the only other cooperation willing to give Roddick a racket, but he decided on Babolat because of his coach’s relationship with Appino. A year later everything changed. Roddick won three out of the four boys’ majors and became the No. 1 junior in the world. Other juniors took notice, especially of his monster serve. Some actually phoned Babolat in France, to see if they too could get “Andy’s racket.” “If he had been out there with a broomstick,” says Rick Macci, who coached Roddick between ages 9 and 14, “I think people would have wanted to try a broomstick.” Lastly its only fitting for BobFL, fellow TT-er who is know in our neck of the woods as "Cannon Serve Bob", to obtain a racket that set an official ATP serve speed record as if great serving sticks somehow gravitate towards those who can actually utilize their magic -Goran __________________ Too many racquets...

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