***Dunlop 4D 200 Tour*** Club!!

[kaiser]

That SW reading of 352 at TW seems exaggerated, it certainly doesn't swing that heavy. Also, my two 4D200Ts came in at 7-8 pts HL strung. I don't know what happend with the TW specs, but others have commented on this forum that their 4D200Ts swing lighter and are more head light than the TW specs indicate.

[PimpMyGame]

Originally Posted by kaiser

That SW reading of 352 at TW seems exaggerated, it certainly doesn't swing that heavy. Also, my two 4D200Ts came in at 7-8 pts HL strung. I don't know what happend with the TW specs, but others have commented on this forum that their 4D200Ts swing lighter and are more head light than the TW specs indicate.

I have just read the Dunlop spec card attached to the strings when I purchased, says strung balance is 320mm which converts to 7pts HL so is different to TW specs and very similar to my AG200 18x20.

[PimpMyGame]

ok, so I tried the 200Tour on Sunday morning. For me, it's not a love at first sight frame but then I changed frame, string pattern and a new string setup in one go. Therefore no alarm bells yet, I just need to get into the groove of this racket.

I can safely say that the only area of improvement was volleying. This appears to be a very stable frame, volleys felt really good. Everything else suffered, so I need to spend some time with it.

So, stability-wise this frame seems superior to my AG200s. I think the balance is very similar, so maybe weight distribution around the frame has changed?

My first thought after playing that maybe putting a leather grip on is a bit of a mistake - I should be making the extra heft work for me by keeping syn grip and not making it more head light. Also, at 347g strung plus overgrip and dampener maybe I don't need an additional 12g or so that the leather grip provides. Therefore I'm replacing the syn grip and giving it another spin during the week.

[PimpMyGame]

Removed leather grip and replaced the Dunlop synthetic for a singles match today. Felt much better, more of a weapon. Won 6-1 6-2, dropped serve twice because I'm still dialling in to the racket, but apart from that it went very well indeed.

[Dave M]

I judt picked up a couple of the 16x19 versions, seem quite nice but the mfil string in them was really harsh maybe past it's best! Just replacing them now anyone got any tips re string they'd like to share?

[kaiser]

Originally Posted by PimpMyGame

ok, so I tried the 200Tour on Sunday morning. For me, it's not a love at first sight frame but then I changed frame, string pattern and a new string setup in one go. Therefore no alarm bells yet, I just need to get into the groove of this racket.

I can safely say that the only area of improvement was volleying. This appears to be a very stable frame, volleys felt really good. Everything else suffered, so I need to spend some time with it.

So, stability-wise this frame seems superior to my AG200s. I think the balance is very similar, so maybe weight distribution around the frame has changed?

My first thought after playing that maybe putting a leather grip on is a bit of a mistake - I should be making the extra heft work for me by keeping syn grip and not making it more head light. Also, at 347g strung plus overgrip and dampener maybe I don't need an additional 12g or so that the leather grip provides. Therefore I'm replacing the syn grip and giving it another spin during the week.

I also needed some time to dial in to this racket, on my first outing with it my shots flew all over the place... Found I had to turn my grip a little more to the Western side to keep my groundstrokes in. It does tend to grow on you as you keep playing with it! I made mine a little more headlight by putting Blu-Tack adhesive putty inside the handle. Very easy to fine-tune because while trying out you can simply stick it on the butt cap and add/remove little plucks!

[safin67]

I have a Dunlop 200 tour.
I want to try it with NXT 17. Can anyone recommend at what tension?
What about using RPM blast? Any suggestions on what tension?

Thanks.

[levy07]

just hit with this racquet today. What a great control and feel racquet. Has the perfect balance of power and control. I tried a set with a one handed backhand and lost 4/6 although I normally use two handed. I was hitting winners with the one hander effortlessly.

[Kimosabi]

Any suggestions on string setups? Tension? Poly? Co-Poly?

[obow]

Bought one 4D 200 Tour recently, very solid racket, much better than the old M-Fil 200 especially at volleys.

Not sure about what the strung balance is for the racket. The print on the racket says 320mm, the information on the attached card is 330mm, without specifying whether strung or unstrung.

Anyone has the answer?

Have been trying some customization on my 4D 200 Tour but so far haven't get the balance 100% right. Currently, it is leaded to 363g with the balance at about 326mm. Tried 320mm, it was definitely too head light, but haven't tested the 330mm setting.

The specification given by TW is 327mm (5pts HL), which is about right.

Checked the new Bio 200 Tour, it clearly says that the strung balance is 320mm.

[basil J]

Add me to the club. This is easily one of the best serving frames I have ever experienced. I just got it yesterday and went right into a practice match today. I lost 6-3, 6-3, to a solid 4.0 on clay. I threw alot of untimely double faults because I got seduced by the amount of power I was generating on my serves with little effort. I was not taking anything off my 2nd serves, which I would never do in a real match.
I have PSGD 17g at 60# and while on serve it felt great, off the ground the frame played a little too boardy and I will probably go down to around 56# with a gut/poly hybrid. The frame is comfortable and comes around easy enough. IMO, it is very similar to the k6.1 95 18 x 20, but less powerful.
Any string set up tension suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[Avadia]

Count me in. I am enjoying this frame a lot. I switched out the grip for a leather grip, which brings mine to 12.6 oz. and 1 inch head light, which is just perfect for me. I just strung mine up with Pacific Classic Gut 17 gauge mains and MSV Co-focus 1.23 crosses at 59/56 lbs on a constant pull machine. Tons of power and spin, monster serves, rock solid stability and great touch and feel. What's not to love?

[basil J]

I am trying the volkl gut/poly hybrid set today at 56 poly mains/56/gut crosses. I have a match this afternoon and I am hoping that the power off the ground goes up just a bit. With the current string set up, I feel like I have great control, but really can't hurt my opponent off the ground because the power level is low. With the 6.1 95 18 x 20 i always have that 2nd gear where if I see an opening I can really lean into a groundie with good control. the frames feel very similar so I know it will just be a matter of finding the right string/tension.

[dcheung]

I have klip gut 56 main/typhoon 52 previously and liked the setup a lot, good power & pocketing ability. Elbow issues tried klip gut 56 main/ gosen sheep 16 @ 58 and gives very comfortable hitting and feel. Seriously go for this setup onwards as offering a lower costs.

[basil J]

I played a good match yesterday, ended up losing 10-8 in a 3rd set tie break. The string set up was a tad springy and I over hit a couple of times at key points of the match. I think I need to get out and just hit so I can get dialed in. I have this frame for three days and have already played & lost two matches with it. The trajectory is a little higher than the standard 200 so, although the added depth is welcome, I just need to simply hit a few hundred ground strokes and get dialed in. I was not too impressed with the Volkl hybrid. the poly moved around quite a bit, it was rather springy and I feel I could have gone a bit higher in tension. Having said that, the comfort is great and it seems to be a comfortable frame to use. Once I find my range, it feels like a good attacking frame that so far, feels pretty well rounded, and much more powerful than the standard 4d 200. I actually played a practice set after the match with my 200 and blanked him 6-0. Difference in spin and power were very noticeable, but ironically, I couldn't miss a serve, where with the tour, I was certainly throwing heat, but also quite a few just long, so again, just a matter of getting dialed in. I must add that the swing weight does not seem to be an issue and the tour, so far is extremely comfortable and easy to maneuver at the net.

[basil J]

Popped the poly yesterday. Today I went with the becker gut poly hybrid at 60# gutm/58#/poly crosses. i will try it out tomorrow. I am trying to play everyday this week. The trajectory with the open string bed is a bit higher than with the 18 x 20 version, so I think with tighter tension I will be able to reel my shots in a bit and start playing more aggressively. I think this frame is begging for a full VS gut string job, but before I blow the cash, I want to tinker with some set ups. Need to do my shoulder exercises for this beast. It's static weight is no big deal, but it swings heavy. I am hoping that all I need is some time to get dialed in a bit.

[kaiser]

Originally Posted by basil J

Popped the poly yesterday. Today I went with the becker gut poly hybrid at 60# gutm/58#/poly crosses. i will try it out tomorrow. I am trying to play everyday this week. The trajectory with the open string bed is a bit higher than with the 18 x 20 version, so I think with tighter tension I will be able to reel my shots in a bit and start playing more aggressively. I think this frame is begging for a full VS gut string job, but before I blow the cash, I want to tinker with some set ups. Need to do my shoulder exercises for this beast. It's static weight is no big deal, but it swings heavy. I am hoping that all I need is some time to get dialed in a bit.

Also had to adjust to the higher trajectory of the 4D200T coming off a 18x20 string bed. Solved it by shifting my grip a bit more western, thus closing the racket face a tad more. Bonus: more spin! Also, I have been going steadily down with my tension using full poly. Has provided me with massive additional spin potential, thus helping to control the power of this beast (see LOW, LOW tensions thread in Strings section)! Also very welcome additional kick on 2nd serves... I am now at 17-18 kg, but may go back up a bit because I am getting string movement after the first couple of hours of play.

[basil J]

Played for about 2 hours today, Hit for about 45 minutes and then played 2 sets. lost first 4-6, was up in the 2nd 4-1 when we ran out of time. With the gut.poly hybrid at 60/58# control was excellent, spin was ridiculous and comfort was good. I am still struggling with hitting serves going long, so I know I am not getting through the strike zone with enough snap and height. Will work on that. Even with a real relaxed service motion at 50-75% output, the frames mass can really bring in some easy heat. I was hitting great angles today and some good outright down the line winners off of both wings. I did not do to much S&V today because I couldn't get comfortable serving, otherwise, I really am starting to enjoy this frame.Volleys are solid, but you have to be ready or the frame can feel sluggish. I have a league match in the morning and then I am playing again in the afternoon. I will bring a basket and some targets and work on my serve some more tomorrow afternoon. If I am still loving it by the weekend, I will probably pick up a 2nd frame and move to this. I really like the BB legends, but it just feels flimsy compared to the 200 tour.

[basil J]

Played a solid 3 hour match today and beat a guy I have never taken a set off of. Served well and was very steady off the ground. Great spin and pretty good up at net as well. Had to bring my"A" game today and I was extremely happy with how "solid" this stick is. There is no twisting at all and it is a spin machine, for sure. After 3 hours my shoulder was a bit sore and tired, so I may take a day off, but if I feel okay, I will be right back out tomorrow. The more I use this frame, the more natural it feels in my hand.

[Lavs]

Originally Posted by basil J

Played a solid 3 hour match today and beat a guy I have never taken a set off of. Served well and was very steady off the ground. Great spin and pretty good up at net as well. Had to bring my"A" game today and I was extremely happy with how "solid" this stick is. There is no twisting at all and it is a spin machine, for sure. After 3 hours my shoulder was a bit sore and tired, so I may take a day off, but if I feel okay, I will be right back out tomorrow. The more I use this frame, the more natural it feels in my hand.

Hi, Basil,

what is your setup?
did you make any customization to the frame?