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Old 11-30-2012, 05:50 AM   #11621
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The new wilson base grip is not good. I am hoping we can get some specs on that thing because it takes away the bevel feel that the pro hybrid gives and makes the gripsize feel a size bigger. I am hoping it weighs the same as the pro hybri.

Interested in what you folks think when you try that grip out. Thumbs down from me.
Funny you should say that. I'm still not entirely sold on the flared buttcap end thingy on the Juice. It is rather different.

Also, it's the same old issue for me I know, but having now tried a number of different mods set ups, different strings set ups (played with Pacific/MSV earlier today and was maybe a little underwhelmed), etc, the fact remains, I'm still not hitting my usual groundstroke in as desirable a manner as when I wield the APD Original. This is frustrating because it's obviously such a major feature, however, in so many other aspects the Juice is probably a better frame IMO.

Have I been a bit quick on the draw with the avatar change?
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:59 AM   #11622
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The new wilson base grip is not good. I am hoping we can get some specs on that thing because it takes away the bevel feel that the pro hybrid gives and makes the gripsize feel a size bigger. I am hoping it weighs the same as the pro hybri.

Interested in what you folks think when you try that grip out. Thumbs down from me.
PP, I have 2 unused white Wilson Pro Hybrid grips I took of my new Juices. Let me know if you want em. I actually prefer a soft syn grip

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Have I been a bit quick on the draw with the avatar change?
Yes because now you don't look like the same TT user lol. It confused me for a second!!
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:06 AM   #11624
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PP, I have 2 unused white Wilson Pro Hybrid grips I took of my new Juices. Let me know if you want em. I actually prefer a soft syn grip

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What grip did you replace with? I love head base grips. Soooo soft
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Jack, thanks, I will let you know. I am wondering what the weight difference would be.

Anyway, let us know how the stick hits and if you notice the bigger gripsize as well compared to the juice.
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Funny you should say that. I'm still not entirely sold on the flared buttcap end thingy on the Juice. It is rather different.

Also, it's the same old issue for me I know, but having now tried a number of different mods set ups, different strings set ups (played with Pacific/MSV earlier today and was maybe a little underwhelmed), etc, the fact remains, I'm still not hitting my usual groundstroke in as desirable a manner as when I wield the APD Original. This is frustrating because it's obviously such a major feature, however, in so many other aspects the Juice is probably a better frame IMO.

Have I been a bit quick on the draw with the avatar change?
Was there a mod set up you remember hitting better groundstrokes with?

What mods have you tried & which do you like best?
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Funny you should say that. I'm still not entirely sold on the flared buttcap end thingy on the Juice. It is rather different.

Also, it's the same old issue for me I know, but having now tried a number of different mods set ups, different strings set ups (played with Pacific/MSV earlier today and was maybe a little underwhelmed), etc, the fact remains, I'm still not hitting my usual groundstroke in as desirable a manner as when I wield the APD Original. This is frustrating because it's obviously such a major feature, however, in so many other aspects the Juice is probably a better frame IMO.

Have I been a bit quick on the draw with the avatar change?
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:26 AM   #11628
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What grip did you replace with? I love head base grips. Soooo soft
I replaced them with Babolat synthetic white grips. I also love the head hydrosorb grips and also Volkl Cushtac grip. I didn't like the verey firm feel of the Wilson Pro hybrid grips.

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Old 11-30-2012, 10:53 AM   #11629
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The new wilson base grip is not good. I am hoping we can get some specs on that thing because it takes away the bevel feel that the pro hybrid gives and makes the gripsize feel a size bigger. I am hoping it weighs the same as the pro hybri.

Interested in what you folks think when you try that grip out. Thumbs down from me.
As long as they don't change the grip shape/size, I can deal with changing out grips. BTW, in the overgrip dept, Gamma Supreme Overgrip is amazing - lovely tackiness and soft feel combo.

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Funny you should say that. I'm still not entirely sold on the flared buttcap end thingy on the Juice. It is rather different.

Also, it's the same old issue for me I know, but having now tried a number of different mods set ups, different strings set ups (played with Pacific/MSV earlier today and was maybe a little underwhelmed), etc, the fact remains, I'm still not hitting my usual groundstroke in as desirable a manner as when I wield the APD Original. This is frustrating because it's obviously such a major feature, however, in so many other aspects the Juice is probably a better frame IMO.

Have I been a bit quick on the draw with the avatar change?
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PP, I have 2 unused white Wilson Pro Hybrid grips I took of my new Juices. Let me know if you want em. I actually prefer a soft syn grip

p.s. Getting ready to enter the Steam Room. Should have a report later this afternoon
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I replaced them with Babylon synthetic white grips. I also love the head hydro-sore grips and also vocal Kushtaka grip. I didn't like the Berry firm feel of the Wilson Pro hybrid grips.

Please excuse all the typos from speech to text. I will edit them later when I am done driving
Hold up -- you're posting on a message board whilst driving??
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:59 AM   #11631
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Hold up -- you're posting on a message board whilst driving??
Lol..I thought the same..uggh. facepalm.

In LA that stuff gets you shot.

I also can deal with switching grips. I thought the hybrid pro may have a heavier weight to it though..so it may alter the balance..etc. If I am wrong then this is basically a non issue. I really love the pro hybrid grip.
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Lol..I thought the same..uggh. facepalm.

In LA that stuff gets you shot.

I also can deal with switching grips. I thought the hybrid pro may have a heavier weight to it though..so it may alter the balance..etc. If I am wrong then this is basically a non issue. I really love the pro hybrid grip.
getting you shot is probably an exaggeration, but might get you killed or worse might kill some innocent person. and a facepalm is not enough for this occasion.


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Old 11-30-2012, 11:13 AM   #11633
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:14 PM   #11634
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Rob, Ray, JG,

Ok, just to give some background...

I had a NIGHTMARE match on Thursday (talking total game malfunction) and some of that lingered into this morning's session as well - and that was much less to do with the frame and had everything to do with overloading my brain with Bailey method stuff that completely threw me bigtime (massive mistake when you try to cram in too much technique info in such circumstances), so I was on a downer of a mood when I wrote the post you're responding to.

Yes, I still prefer the APD on basic g/strokes, but on little else. I'm still finding my feet with the J. It's a great frame, better feel, dampening, serve pop.

As for the mods qsn, afraid I can't give a definitive answer yet, Ray. Too many variables like weather (London lately has been damp, slippy,windy), opponents, strings, etc. What I can say is for more all court game the rac is very, very good indeed with a not huge amount of lead @ 12 and 3 and 6. However, I seem to be going lower and lower on the lead front (played today with just 2g @ 12), trying to get it to hit like I want. What I notice though with this is I'm launching a bit too much. Considering now going right down to low 40s, full job TB or a low power softish full poly, zero lead. Further to that, I'm wondering if really I'm a full poly man at heart. Thinking specifically about N.Vy, which I've been crossing with for quite a while, and, er, maybe I should give it a break. And TBH I also wasn't quite as impressed with gut/poly that I played today as I thought I'd be.

But how about you, gents? What's happening with you frames-wise etc? Where are you at right now on this racketaholic tennis bum odyssey?
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Yes because now you don't look like the same TT user lol. It confused me for a second!!
I'm liking this changing my avatar to whatever frame i`'m using at the time. Mind you, if we all did it around here it would be total confusion!
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I'm liking this changing my avatar to whatever frame i`'m using at the time. Mind you, if we all did it around here it would be total confusion!
That's kinda funny. I use felicianos old stick
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Hit with my buddy's juice pro again. Great feel with this thing. A really awesome stick, but I prefer the Blade. The JP is really nice though and probably one of the better offerings.

I am hitting with so much more power now. I played lacrosse lefthanded and I think it screwed my footwork up. Basically I was using left handed footwork playing right handed tennis sometimes. So now that I fixed that, I am hitting so much better. I feel better for my friend that I hit with because we have insane rallies now - he was really impressed with the changes. The recovery steps are happening automatically now so I am covering the court a lot better. It makes playing on clay far easier.

This wilson tour bag - so good. I am really happy to have gotten it before the weekend. For $60 it has to be the best bag you can get. We will see how it holds up, but I love the storage on it.

My friend was not into the 105s at all either. "too much power, no control" those were his main 2 comments. He hits with a lot of spin too. It is plain and simple a beginner's stick.
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Hit with my buddy's juice pro again. Great feel with this thing. A really awesome stick, but I prefer the Blade. The JP is really nice though and probably one of the better offerings.

I am hitting with so much more power now. I played lacrosse lefthanded and I think it screwed my footwork up. Basically I was using left handed footwork playing right handed tennis sometimes. So now that I fixed that, I am hitting so much better. I feel better for my friend that I hit with because we have insane rallies now - he was really impressed with the changes. The recovery steps are happening automatically now so I am covering the court a lot better. It makes playing on clay far easier.

This wilson tour bag - so good. I am really happy to have gotten it before the weekend. For $60 it has to be the best bag you can get. We will see how it holds up, but I love the storage on it.

My friend was not into the 105s at all either. "too much power, no control" those were his main 2 comments. He hits with a lot of spin too. It is plain and simple a beginner's stick.
Power Player, would you mind comparing the Blade and the JP in a little more detail? You have me very curious about the Blade, and I've demoed the JP enough to know how it plays. Obviously, the extra quarter inch on the JP is going to have some effect, but did you find that the slightly more open string pattern and rounder head on the JP made it easier to hit with spin? Did one feel stiffer, more solid, or more stable than the other?
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Yes but I am speaking into the phone while at a stop.
Well then.... I guess that would be considered a negative facepalm....
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