Youtube vids of young kids

[wbdad]

I myself love watching these videos to help me see how other kids hit (not play) at this age (under 10). Thought it would be useful to some to see. Of course there are probably other kids out there that hit wayy better than this.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBLXI...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzO8xHU8L9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzze...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK9To...ext=1&index=28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ulJ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSi3I...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsmlZD-gHE

[Tennis_Bum]

Some are good, others are terrible. But I love the typical titles, prodigy, talent, or world-class, etc. Thanks for posting.

[wbdad]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Bum

Some are good, others are terrible. But I love the typical titles, prodigy, talent, or world-class, etc. Thanks for posting.

Which ones are bad so that i know what to look for.... Thanks

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by wbdad

Which ones are bad so that i know what to look for.... Thanks

Video 1 is good, but simply ball feeds don't tell a whole lot.
2, 3, 4, and 5 are really bad if you look carefully. I'll just end it there.
Video 6 is nothing more than advertising his club.
And the last one, there is no big deal about a 9 year old learning to serve. So I don't get the the "prodigy" label.

[wbdad]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Bum

Video 1 is good, but simply ball feeds don't tell a whole lot.
2, 3, 4, and 5 are really bad if you look carefully. I'll just end it there.
Video 6 is nothing more than advertising his club.
And the last one, there is no big deal about a 9 year old learning to serve. So I don't get the the "prodigy" label.

Thanks tennis_bum. I thought 1,4,and 5 were pretty good but I am not a coach so maybe i dont know what to look for.

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by wbdad

Thanks tennis_bum. I thought 1,4,and 5 were pretty good but I am not a coach so maybe i dont know what to look for.

You don't need to be a coach, but just pay attention then you will know what to look for.

[TennisCoachFLA]

I remember most of those videos through the years. The number 6 video jumped out at me because on the surface the girl seems to have a nice forehand. But its a dead end, wiper style. That hits a ceiling in the women's game as they are rarely strong enough to generate enough spin. It sits up and the big girls just eat it alive.

The girls have to hit through the ball more than the boys in order to advance as they get older. Putting it side by side with the male instructor's forehand is showing he does not get the big picture.

[BSPE84]

Hey what do you guys think of this kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R58T7hAP4Pc

Originally Posted by BSPE84

Hey what do you guys think of this kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R58T7hAP4Pc

The thing about this boy and all the others that post vids. They are either playing against 1) fed balls, 2) players getting paid while the kid is hitting, or 3) they are doing it as part of as "federation" deal. At the end of the day it means nothing.

If this was a legitimate tournament match for money toward the end of the match. Now we've got what we want to see. In the meantime the US has nobody in the top 10 period end of story. Right now Jack Sock is the Baskin Robbins of the moment.

[gino]

Originally Posted by BSPE84

Hey what do you guys think of this kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R58T7hAP4Pc

Thats a cool video.

Thanks for posting

[klu375]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

I remember most of those videos through the years. The number 6 video jumped out at me because on the surface the girl seems to have a nice forehand. But its a dead end, wiper style. That hits a ceiling in the women's game as they are rarely strong enough to generate enough spin. It sits up and the big girls just eat it alive.

The girls have to hit through the ball more than the boys in order to advance as they get older. Putting it side by side with the male instructor's forehand is showing he does not get the big picture.

I guess she is in "dead end" and hit a ceiling. And her papa does not get the big picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37as8...eature=related

Originally Posted by klu375

I guess she is in "dead end" and hit a ceiling. And her papa does not get the big picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37as8...eature=related

Look at the finish at 1:00 exactly on Wozniaki and .09 of your player. Hardly the same finish. But that's OK because she's only 8 or 9. She'll get it right???

[klu375]

Originally Posted by tenniscrazed

Look at the finish at 1:00 exactly on Wozniaki and .09 of your player. Hardly the same finish. But that's OK because she's only 8 or 9. She'll get it right???

You are right, the 20 year old pro controls her racket much better than 8 year old. The small girl was probably recently switched to adult racket and holds it with 3 fingers. I guess all this will be corrected as she gets stronger. And she is not "my player" and there is no reason for your usual personal attacks. But with all due respect to TCF some of his statements are highly debatable.

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by klu375

I guess she is in "dead end" and hit a ceiling. And her papa does not get the big picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37as8...eature=related

Pretty good on your part, but just because the 2 strokes look similar, that doesn't mean they are similar if you look closely.

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by BSPE84

Hey what do you guys think of this kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R58T7hAP4Pc

He's pretty good, how old is he? I am guessing he was hitting with Sam Querrey at high performance center in Carson. Who is this kid? My only comment is that the serve is not as good as it can be for a lefty.

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by tenniscrazed

The thing about this boy and all the others that post vids. They are either playing against 1) fed balls, 2) players getting paid while the kid is hitting, or 3) they are doing it as part of as "federation" deal. At the end of the day it means nothing.

If this was a legitimate tournament match for money toward the end of the match. Now we've got what we want to see. In the meantime the US has nobody in the top 10 period end of story. Right now Jack Sock is the Baskin Robbins of the moment.

Really? I think this kid is really good. He's got a good handle on all the strokes, he's got good speed, footwork, and he's working the points pretty well. I saw some defense to offense transition that was pretty darn good. He's 12 playing Sam Querry! And... it looked to me like Sam was hitting the ball pretty well and not just tossing them in there. The kid returned some serves that were pretty fast and had some kick. Too critical, this kid is good.

[TennisCoachFLA]

Originally Posted by klu375

I guess she is in "dead end" and hit a ceiling. And her papa does not get the big picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37as8...eature=related

Not the same strokes. The little girl was slapping/wiping up on the ball a ton more and was not using the kinetic chain on her strokes. Much of the power comes from the way Woz bends her knees, loads up, then moves her weight into her shot. That is very different than the little girl jumping up and wiping the ball. There is a lot more to a forehand than just the stroke pattern.

My point was that many parents and coaches try to teach the girls the same way as the boys...and the girls dead end since they can not generate enough spin long term.

This fact has been mentioned over and over by Rick Macci, Lansdorp, Emilio-Sanchez and many top coaches. It is a common correction made when they get many girls who have been coached by others who do not know this.

Its not being mean....it may seem obvious to many parents and coaches to teach girls extreme top spin. They usually are on board when you explain why this is not the right thing for the future.

The little girl in that video is a nice athlete....no one should say other wise. But her stroke will most likely limit her in the future.

And my initial post said RARELY strong enough....their are always exceptions. But the vast majority of girls are way better off long term to hit through the ball more than wipe it.

[wbdad]

How about some of the experts here post some videos of "good" strokes from kids so we can see what to look for. Thanks!

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

Not the same strokes. The little girl was slapping/wiping up on the ball a ton more and was not using the kinetic chain on her strokes. Much of the power comes from the way Woz bends her knees, loads up, then moves her weight into her shot. That is very different than the little girl jumping up and wiping the ball. There is a lot more to a forehand than just the stroke pattern.

My point was that many parents and coaches try to teach the girls the same way as the boys...and the girls dead end since they can not generate enough spin long term.

This fact has been mentioned over and over by Rick Macci, Lansdorp, Emilio-Sanchez and many top coaches. It is a common correction made when they get many girls who have been coached by others who do not know this.

Its not being mean....it may seem obvious to many parents and coaches to teach girls extreme top spin. They usually are on board when you explain why this is not the right thing for the future.

The little girl in that video is a nice athlete....no one should say other wise. But her stroke will most likely limit her in the future.

And my initial post said RARELY strong enough....their are always exceptions. But the vast majority of girls are way better off long term to hit through the ball more than wipe it.

100% CORRECT!!!!!

[klu375]

Dear TCF,
Your point is that the WV forehand is not good for women and they need to hit through the ball. Do you agree that Wos hits WV forehand on all shots? I can add a few more videos of pro women hitting WV, especially shorter women (5'8" and below). There is no point to critisize the 8 yo but she is being taught the same technique as the current pros are using now. She is just not there yet.