Youtube vids of young kids

[chalkflewup]

This girl can definitely play tennis ... I've seen her play a few times. But, it's absolutely crazy to label an 11 or 12 year old as a future pro. Just enjoy her game. Way, way too many things between now and pro. Genes. Health. Development. Boys. Luck. I also heard rumors that she signed up for crazy money with a clothing company - unconfirmed.

Originally Posted by willshot

uhhh this girl is definitely good and more advanced but consider that she is 4 years older than the kids in the original video list.

That's just the video I found with the little time I had. But rest assured that is what the future looks like.

Honestly I would put money on the her vs the kid playing Querrey. With that footwork and level of intensity that is unmatched.

In fact if someone wants to set up that match. I've got $500 says she wins in three maybe straights against this Nyguyen kid. Seriously the kid is in the wrong sport. Honestly I would stick with the math, science and health and let the kids like her become pros. But I've got $500 says she works him.

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by tenniscrazed

That's just the video I found with the little time I had. But rest assured that is what the future looks like.

Honestly I would put money on the her vs the kid playing Querrey. With that footwork and level of intensity that is unmatched.

In fact if someone wants to set up that match. I've got $500 says she wins in three maybe straights against this Nyguyen kid. Seriously the kid is in the wrong sport. Honestly I would stick with the math, science and health and let the kids like her become pros. But I've got $500 says she works him.

BTW, who said the Evan Nguyen was turning pro or pro was his aspiration. Perhaps, he just enjoys playing tennis. Sure beat playing video games and eating chips and drinking sodas all day long. Yes, that girl in the video is good, but why does she have the strap on her knees already at such a young age. Is she overtrained? How old is she really, I am guessing around 13, wild guess. I'll keep an eye out for to see if I see her on the WTA tour soon. She'll probably make it, but it's really tough to say. Don't bet your life savings away yet.

[willshot]

Originally Posted by tenniscrazed

That's just the video I found with the little time I had. But rest assured that is what the future looks like.

Honestly I would put money on the her vs the kid playing Querrey. With that footwork and level of intensity that is unmatched.

In fact if someone wants to set up that match. I've got $500 says she wins in three maybe straights against this Nyguyen kid. Seriously the kid is in the wrong sport. Honestly I would stick with the math, science and health and let the kids like her become pros. But I've got $500 says she works him.

Found with little time??? I think not. You have that link bookmarked for quite some time now. I think you must have some type of obsession with the girl since this is like the 10th time you've mentioned about her. ewwww. grownazz man.

[Tennis_Bum]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

If you want text book stuff....this boy has a nice forehand....look for the total package, he is balanced, keeps the feet moving, well timed split step, nice grip, take back, points off hand down the baseline, rotate the core, good contact point, follow through.

But it is what it is, fed balls and slow controlled feeds. And we all know kids his age who hit a whole lot harder than this but may not look as text book. And when he gets in a real match setting he could be mediocre. But as far as basic form, he is pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYB9w-yiDg

No, this boy is terrible. The only thing good about him is that his parents are willing to finance the IMG's staff.

[tennisdad65]

ooo.. this thread is getting very interesting.. where's that thread bookmark feature?

[tenniscp]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

I can speak for the USTA high performance program in Boca....we have been there everyday now for 8 days. What a huge waste. 23 great courts and a handful of 'high performance' kids....maybe 3-4 look dang good, the rest so-so.

But there is zero programming for other kids...no Quickstart, no clinics....nothing. After 5 pm there are a few (2-3-4) kids taking private lessons.....no prodigies, just average local kids.

The rest of these top notch courts are used by the staff and their friends playing social tennis like they own the place. And most are like 3.0 players, secretaries, maybe a few of the pros. Fancy cars roar into the parking lot and they act like its their country club.

And this is the flagship facility that should be set up to be a kid magnet

I can only imagine the epic amount of money being thrown here. Most of it just a waste.

Did you get to see any of the High Performance kids play? Is the money going to waste or there are some girls and boys that actually have the game to reach the next level?

[BSPE84]

Originally Posted by Tennis_Bum

No, this boy is terrible. The only thing good about him is that his parents are willing to finance the IMG's staff.

Bum, thanks for making that point! Evan loves tennis and he lives and breathes the game. But the crazed one is right, he's definitely sticking with the math and science because his dream is to play tennis for Stanford and become an opthamologist... Then maybe if TC still needs a job a few years from now Evan can hire him to mow his lawn

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by tenniscrazed

That's just the video I found with the little time I had. But rest assured that is what the future looks like.

Honestly I would put money on the her vs the kid playing Querrey. With that footwork and level of intensity that is unmatched.

In fact if someone wants to set up that match. I've got $500 says she wins in three maybe straights against this Nyguyen kid. Seriously the kid is in the wrong sport. Honestly I would stick with the math, science and health and let the kids like her become pros. But I've got $500 says she works him.

tenniscrazed i sure hope img fixes Shishkinas backhand...Her footwork and intensity are incredible.Im just hoping they get that backhand fixed quick because muscle memory is going to haunt her if she doesnt fix that backhand now.On the next level when the pressure is on that backhand will break down.I know she is only 12 but that backhand really concerns me.At 12 that should have already been fixed.Im not saying she wont be great i hope my daughter is on that level at 12 but that follow thru is a mess!!!!

[TennisCoachFLA]

Too many posts to address but a few points:

1. klu....enough with that little girl video. Woz is not wiping the ball in front of her face, the girl is....end of story. So Macci and Sanchez and Lansdorp are all stupid for teaching girls to hit through the ball and not wipe?....whatever. Not one top WTA player wipes the ball in front of her face like that girl is. I also said she was a great athlete so no one is criticizing her....just saying that top coaches would change her stroke.

2. chalkflewup.....I have been at Evert's in Boca 4 times a day for 9 days now. Its a mess. The kids are mostly average with about 3-4 good ones. They are rude, they throw their trash everywhere, the practice sessions are half decent at best. They can not get off the courts fast enough. I watched their morning run about 4 hours ago....run 20 feet, stop, talk, look at some babies in strollers walking by....a total joke.

How many courts does the USTA have access too in Boca?? I don't see Quickstart or any kids programs on even one of them. I see rich adults playing on all of them.

I know the USTA kids are done by 5 pm, thats why I said that. After that time the USTA courts should be used for Quickstart, etc and they are not despite tons of kids around here.

If you are buddies with the USTA people, I do not mean to offend. But what I see in Boca isn't much to brag about.

3. bum....A dad asked for a video of a text book forehand by a kid and I posted one. The boy's forehand is text book perfect. And like I said in the post....that means nothing to how successful he will be. I am not a fanatic for strokes having to be text book. But the dad asked for a model and one was shown.

4. crazed....I agree on Shishkina....people get caught up on strokes and their appearance. Some top pros have strange looking strokes. Yes, her backhand needs work. But she is so much more intense and athletic than almost any player you see, she will be a winner.

5. Enough with the resume requests. I have said a billion times my information comes from coaches like Macci and Lansdorp and Sanchez and Nick B. and Saviano, coaches I have worked with or attended multiple seminars by. Don't believe me, go talk/work with these guys who have proven results.

[10schick]

Originally Posted by BSPE84

Bum, thanks for making that point! Evan loves tennis and he lives and breathes the game. But the crazed one is right, he's definitely sticking with the math and science because his dream is to play tennis for Stanford and become an opthamologist... Then maybe if TC still needs a job a few years from now Evan can hire him to mow his lawn

Sounds like a post from Evan's dad.... Nobody defends a kid other than theirs like that! BTW.. it's "ophthalmologist" Should probably learn to spell that by the time he applies for Stanford.

[tennisdad65]

Originally Posted by 10schick

Sounds like a post from Evan's dad.... Nobody defends a kid other than theirs like that! BTW.. it's "ophthalmologist" Should probably learn to spell that by the time he applies for Stanford.

I agree that it sounds like his Dad. However, I see nothing wrong in him posting that. It hurts when someone says your kid is terrible, when clearly his kid is a very good player. You never know what level he may reach.. Could be Div 1 or even pro's or neither.. you cannot tell at this age.

However, he called this upon himself by posting the video of the kid in the first place. That's a no-no out here IMO .

[10schick]

Originally Posted by tennisdad65

However, he called this upon himself by posting the video of the kid in the first place. That's a no-no out here IMO .

I agree. The best advise is not to post a video of your own kid and ask what people think if you're not ready for criticism. This is a rough crowd here

[TennisCoachFLA]

Originally Posted by 10schick

I agree. The best advise is not to post a video of your own kid and ask what people think if you're not ready for criticism. This is a rough crowd here

A why it is best to just laugh.

Half the posters on the forum will criticize Federer and Nadal's strokes!

[chalkflewup]

TCF,

I'm not tearing your posts apart but you just don't have all the facts. Many of the kids visiting over the last two weeks are not part of the USTA program. Secondly, the training schedule was altered during those 2 weeks. So what you saw was not typical. Like I said, if you're at Evert, talk to John Evert as I believe there is an open dialogue there.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by chalkflewup

TCF,

I'm not tearing your posts apart but you just don't have all the facts. Many of the kids visiting over the last two weeks are not part of the USTA program. Secondly, the training schedule was altered during those 2 weeks. So what you saw was not typical. Like I said, if you're at Evert, talk to John Evert as I believe there is an open dialogue there.

Chalk do you work at Evert?

[TennisCoachFLA]

Originally Posted by chalkflewup

TCF,

I'm not tearing your posts apart but you just don't have all the facts. Many of the kids visiting over the last two weeks are not part of the USTA program. Secondly, the training schedule was altered during those 2 weeks. So what you saw was not typical. Like I said, if you're at Evert, talk to John Evert as I believe there is an open dialogue there.

No problem chalk.

I saw these kids yesterday leave practice and just leave all their trash all over the tables with trash cans 2 feet away. They just acted so entitled and no one was providing any discipline. My 6 year old started tossing all the water bottles into the trash.

But I am confused as to why the USTA is pushing Quickstart and getting kids into tennis and there has not been one kids program here?

Why wouldn't the flagship facility have tons of local kids playing tennis once the high performance kids are done? How many parents would run to have their kids play Quickstart at Evert's? A name they all grew up with.

It just seems like common sense if the USTA rents 10 courts here that they would use them to support their programming for kids. There are boatloads of kids riding bikes all over the area, a huge mostly empty parking lot....yet nothing for kids.

The last few nights these fancy cars come tearing into the lot and out of shape adults come flocking in for their social tennis. None of it makes sense....both Evert Academy and USTA seem to be after kids....yet the programming does not seem to exist.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

No problem chalk.

I saw these kids yesterday leave practice and just leave all their trash all over the tables with trash cans 2 feet away. They just acted so entitled and no one was providing any discipline. My 6 year old started tossing all the water bottles into the trash.

But I am confused as to why the USTA is pushing Quickstart and getting kids into tennis and there has not been one kids program here?

Why wouldn't the flagship facility have tons of local kids playing tennis once the high performance kids are done? How many parents would run to have their kids play Quickstart at Evert's? A name they all grew up with.

It just seems like common sense if the USTA rents 10 courts here that they would use them to support their programming for kids. There are boatloads of kids riding bikes all over the area, a huge mostly empty parking lot....yet nothing for kids.

The last few nights these fancy cars come tearing into the lot and out of shape adults come flocking in for their social tennis. None of it makes sense....both Evert Academy and USTA seem to be after kids....yet the programming does not seem to exist.

What a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mike53]

Originally Posted by TennisCoachFLA

None of it makes sense....both Evert Academy and USTA seem to be after kids....yet the programming does not seem to exist.

Makes perfect sense to me. This is the difference between organizational and personal priorities. On an organizational level, getting kids into tennis is an unimpeachable mantra. On a personal level, it means someone else's kids and some other place. The people you are observing don't need a quickstart program and they don't want to see those kids at their place. It makes sense when you look at it from their point of view.

Originally Posted by 10schick

I agree. The best advise is not to post a video of your own kid and ask what people think if you're not ready for criticism. This is a rough crowd here

I agree and disagree. I don't think it's a rough crowd at all. I do agree, if you're going to post a video on the internet accessible to the entire world and ask for opinions, advises, critique whatever then man you better go into it with all eyes open. Good or bad. Otherwise why do it in the first place.

As far as Ngueyen I hope he has a great career at any field he goes into. But if he has any aspiration of playing tennis at a Stanford level (sadly and I'm sorry Mr. Ngueyen). Save your money for the tuition, by the time he reaches college the average year will push $80K and the level of tennis (if they even have a program) will be almost top 400 ATP. That's reality.