Mikeler's Multis

[ced]

Originally Posted by cmartin

thanks, Mike.

ced: I am a SUPER senior so I can't imagine you being older. I am really only a S and V on grass or sometimes hard, other than in my mind. Have you tried a full bed of the Ashaway? I have a problem with hybrids and different tension loss over time.

Yes, but I did not like the full bed as much .... pairing it with either Forten Dynamix or Babolat N.VY seems to be the thing for me. This set-up also brings the cost down a little. In a full bed the Ashaway tends to wear on itself and is not as durable as in my hybrid mix. There is also less string movement in the hybrid set-up, but then I'm a flat hitter and not much bothered by movement. With either of those set-ups I view tension loss as little or no problem. And you have to be in your 80s to beat me .

I think the racquet may have something to do with string movement and possibly tension loss. The Q is very good about little or no movement and the string bed tension measures pretty constant in the 2 weeks I've had it.

[mikeler]

Read a few more Ashaway reviews and even found some pics. Does not look like it will last long enough for me to fool with.

[davedomart]

Mikeler, in your review of the solinco playtest multi you said it was very low-powered. However it is under the dashed line(the too powerful section). Just thought I'd let you know.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by davedomart

Mikeler, in your review of the solinco playtest multi you said it was very low-powered. However it is under the dashed line(the too powerful section). Just thought I'd let you know.

In the text at the top, I changed it to read that all those were too powerful except the Isospeed and the Solinco. Thanks for catching that and bringing it to my attention.

[YesTennis]

Mikeler or others: I've always use full bed multi. Getting a new "tweener" and would like to optimize the spin potential(I know technique is most important). I've wanted to try a poly/copoly, but don't want to develop elbow issues. Do you think that something like the NXT Control or TF X Code is a good start or compromise? The description makes them seem like a more control oriented multi.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by YesTennis

Mikeler or others: I've always use full bed multi. Getting a new "tweener" and would like to optimize the spin potential(I know technique is most important). I've wanted to try a poly/copoly, but don't want to develop elbow issues. Do you think that something like the NXT Control or TF X Code is a good start or compromise? The description makes them seem like a more control oriented multi.

NXT Control feels like a good quality multi. DuraMix has no feel but I played well with it. It is not durable though and I have not tried X Code. These "all in one" strings don't feel like hybrids if that is what you are asking.

[commish00]

Originally Posted by YesTennis

Mikeler or others: I've always use full bed multi. Getting a new "tweener" and would like to optimize the spin potential(I know technique is most important). I've wanted to try a poly/copoly, but don't want to develop elbow issues. Do you think that something like the NXT Control or TF X Code is a good start or compromise? The description makes them seem like a more control oriented multi.

Before trying strings like X-code Id try a hybrid set up. Start with one of the softer polys like Dunlop Black Widow, Discho Inotec, or MSV Focus Hex and cross it with a soft yet durable multi like Prince premire Attack or Head RIP Control. The poly needs to be strung at least 10 percent less than your current multi string. I think that will give you a better idea if poly's are good for you. If no arm problems after a month or so than try a full bed.

[YesTennis]

Originally Posted by commish00

Before trying strings like X-code Id try a hybrid set up. Start with one of the softer polys like Dunlop Black Widow, Discho Inotec, or MSV Focus Hex and cross it with a soft yet durable multi like Prince premire Attack or Head RIP Control. The poly needs to be strung at least 10 percent less than your current multi string. I think that will give you a better idea if poly's are good for you. If no arm problems after a month or so than try a full bed.

Thanks for the helpful information. That's exactly what I was trying to find out. Much appreciated.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by YesTennis

Thanks for the helpful information. That's exactly what I was trying to find out. Much appreciated.

Or you can try my PVAudio named "Mikeler Matchup" of Weiss Cannon B5E 17 mains with Genesis Thunder Blast 16 crosses.

[YesTennis]

Originally Posted by mikeler

Or you can try my PVAudio named "Mikeler Matchup" of Weiss Cannon B5E 17 mains with Genesis Thunder Blast 16 crosses.

Thanks for your response. I'll definitely give it a try!!!

[JackB1]

Originally Posted by YesTennis

Mikeler or others: I've always use full bed multi. Getting a new "tweener" and would like to optimize the spin potential(I know technique is most important). I've wanted to try a poly/copoly, but don't want to develop elbow issues. Do you think that something like the NXT Control or TF X Code is a good start or compromise? The description makes them seem like a more control oriented multi.

I would try a multi / copoly hybrid first. Then move to the reverse if all is still well.

[YesTennis]

Originally Posted by JackB1

I would try a multi / copoly hybrid first. Then move to the reverse if all is still well.

Thanks Jack.

[Weston]

I played with head RIP control for over a year and there were way more pro's to this string than cons but I was never to happy with the muted feel, and I thought tension stability was only average. I switched over to tecnifibre x-one biphase because it is supposed to have good tension stability for a multi. I have hit with it for about 6 hours now and it is indeed a very comfortable string, good access to spin, but WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am having a frustrating time trying to adjust to the amount of explosive power this string packs.
I no longer want to adjust my game to fit with this string since it is having frustrating results. Any suggestions on a multi with good tension maintenance that is more control oriented?

[levy1]

Originally Posted by Weston

I played with head RIP control for over a year and there were way more pro's to this string than cons but I was never to happy with the muted feel, and I thought tension stability was only average. I switched over to tecnifibre x-one biphase because it is supposed to have good tension stability for a multi. I have hit with it for about 6 hours now and it is indeed a very comfortable string, good access to spin, but WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am having a frustrating time trying to adjust to the amount of explosive power this string packs.
I no longer want to adjust my game to fit with this string since it is having frustrating results. Any suggestions on a multi with good tension maintenance that is more control oriented?

I had the same problem with that string. KABOOM!

[levy1]

Mikeler
Where do I find a updated string review like your first post which I see was in 2010 or is it the same?
thanks

[Ramon]

Originally Posted by Weston

I played with head RIP control for over a year and there were way more pro's to this string than cons but I was never to happy with the muted feel, and I thought tension stability was only average. I switched over to tecnifibre x-one biphase because it is supposed to have good tension stability for a multi. I have hit with it for about 6 hours now and it is indeed a very comfortable string, good access to spin, but WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am having a frustrating time trying to adjust to the amount of explosive power this string packs.
I no longer want to adjust my game to fit with this string since it is having frustrating results. Any suggestions on a multi with good tension maintenance that is more control oriented?

Did you try reading the opening post of this thread? The top choices seem to fit the bill BTW.

EDIT:
From my own experience, Discho Microfibre and Prince Premier Attack both hold tension very well and are very durable, but they deteriorate at the end in different ways. DM gets mushy, while PPA seems to stiffen up. By the time you notice it, they already lasted longer than most multifilament strings so it's not really a big problem. Just cut it out, knowing that you've gotten your money's worth.

I've been using Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre (#15A if you have a hard time finding it, LOL). For some reason I like the way it plays. It's durable (if you don't shank it like Mikeler) and it keeps playing well for a long time, but it doesn't hold tension as well as DM and PPA when I measure it, and measuring it is the only reason I know that.

I seem to find weaknesses no matter what strings I try.

[Ronaldo]

Ready to try these new multis but have not broken my Ashaway Liberty yet. Who knew? Like a bad pr of shoes. That will not wear out.

[commish00]

Originally Posted by Weston

I played with head RIP control for over a year and there were way more pro's to this string than cons but I was never to happy with the muted feel, and I thought tension stability was only average. I switched over to tecnifibre x-one biphase because it is supposed to have good tension stability for a multi. I have hit with it for about 6 hours now and it is indeed a very comfortable string, good access to spin, but WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am having a frustrating time trying to adjust to the amount of explosive power this string packs.
I no longer want to adjust my game to fit with this string since it is having frustrating results. Any suggestions on a multi with good tension maintenance that is more control oriented?

Check the first page of this thread. Mikler appears to like the same kind of strings you do. I have tried RIP and the TF X-1 and agree that the X-1 has substantially more power than the RIP control. The thing I remember about RIP in a full bed is that it had almost no power (some think of the string as being dead). The Discho Microfibre (Micklers #1 choice) might be a good fit. It's lower powered than the TF X-1 and has a bit more of the muted feel like the RIP control. Now that I think about it it's probably right in the middle of RIP-X-1 in terms of crispness-muted feel and power. Prince Premiere attack would be another choice although I think it has a tad more power than the Discho Microfibre which you indicated you were trying to get away from. I will say though that I have not hit with many multi's that were as low powered as RIP Control. So if that is your number one string characteristic I think your going to have a frustrating time with any multi in comparison.

[mikeler]

Originally Posted by Weston

I played with head RIP control for over a year and there were way more pro's to this string than cons but I was never to happy with the muted feel, and I thought tension stability was only average. I switched over to tecnifibre x-one biphase because it is supposed to have good tension stability for a multi. I have hit with it for about 6 hours now and it is indeed a very comfortable string, good access to spin, but WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am having a frustrating time trying to adjust to the amount of explosive power this string packs.
I no longer want to adjust my game to fit with this string since it is having frustrating results. Any suggestions on a multi with good tension maintenance that is more control oriented?

The only other multi string with that low power level is Mantis Comfort Synthetic or Pro's Pro Hi-Tec Multifibre. It is super soft but not durable. X1 just does not hold tension and gets too powerful after a few sets. Those first few hours are magic though. If you look in Post #1 of this thread, you can see my current string rankings with links to a review for each string.

[fgs]

regarding durability i have lately run an experiment: kirschbaum synthetic gut 1.35mm crosses (really thick) lasted me around 8 hours of rather heavy practice hitting. mcs (with some stringsavers now and then) lasts as a cross around 4 (to five if there is more pointplay than practice). this was just to confirm my earlier decision to switch to mcs crosses again, since the feel and touch is so much better.

finally, i did a reverse hybrid - mcs mains at 23kg and mpp (mantis power poly) crosses at 20kg. it only lasted 15 minutes including warm-up in the half court!
i have some isospeed control 1.30 i want to experiment in the mains too, but that would be the last one, unless it lasts longer than one hour.

btw, full syngut (mantis power syn for instance) lasts slightly less than a practice session, which is around two hours.

i did this experiment with the idea of trying the much beloved gut mains / poly crosses to see what it's all about myself, but with this durability i rather think i postpone it until i hit the jackpot in the lottery.